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Redbeard
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Post Number: 232
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 01:13 pm: | 
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The Meier material suggests that it will take us about 700 years before most of the population can get a clue. I was reminded about the length of time when I heard this quote from Katie Holmes about her recent divorce from Tom Cruise, and I thought, well maybe longer than that!
" I'm free of an abusive cult, based on money & power that worships a fictional deity & safely back with the Catholic Church. "
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 121
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 08:50 am: |
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Thanks Redbeard for the laugh : )
Life
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Edward
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Post Number: 2460
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 01:00 am: |
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Hi Redbeard....
Yes, it would take about 700 years. IF, we do better...perhaps in 600 years
or less!
It all depends on HOW Material the humans of Earth are obsessed with, and
their childish WARS? And, if an astroid does not get us, first!!?
Katie (one of my favorite actresses..) made an excellent decision (I
applauded that when I read about it). But, we still have to be aware of the
CULT Catholic Church, of course. But, I guess, at the time being...she (and
Suri[, beautiful child...]) is/are 'safe' for now...
Edward. |
Mgrijalva
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 07-2010
| | Posted on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 09:27 pm: |
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i taught in 800 years we would have peace? per the henoch prophecies(?)
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 07:45 am: |
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Hi Michael,
Yes we laugh until we cry, I posted it then thought wow that seems a little negative, but without humor we couldn't offset what we see every day in this world. I'm glad you came to that place....
Edward,
Good to here from you, I think a lot of these high paid story tellers get lost in the deception that somehow that their life is somehow more important than someone else's life. The whole elvis presley "the King" syndrome.
Yes the asteroid, can we stop killing each other long enough to save each other? Time and more time will tell.
I was wondering when the genetic correction will start to take place. That, as it said will exacerbate the overpopulation issue, and it might make dating a lot more interesting, (Hey are you genetically modified yet? You have to try it, you feel the energizer bunny!)
Mgrijalva,
Not sure on the peace time frame, I do remember something about our planet coming under the control of some kind of Interplanetary group that will put us under some much needed birth controls but maybe not wanted controls. Most people here wouldn't like the controls that the Plajarens are use to, with needing approval before marrying and of course having children. |
Corey
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Post Number: 174
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 09:17 am: |
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It's not the Henoch prophecies (can change) but in general in several predictions (set in stone) and prophecies that in 800 years not only will the Geisteslehre replace existing earthly religions (contact 251) but Earth humans will turn to the Creational laws and recommendations (Warnung an alle Regierungen Europas!/Warning to all the governments of Europe! 1958-Predictions of the Prophets Jeremia and Elia. Hundreds of years ago and again in 1989-And Yet They Fly and Aus den Tiefen Weltenraums.) and finally be true human beings.
Edward was just saying maybe we could do better which is doubtful but you never know the future. It has to do with a teacher (not a prophet) that will appear in the future and spread the spirit teaching to Earth, which the people take hold but the future religions reject until after 40 years they finally accept. I asked Billy about that two rounds of questions ago. As a side note in the contact notes Semjase said today when it comes to the mission Billy is laying the stones for an avalanche that will take place in the future, and in 800 the avalanche begins so to speak and the overwhelming majority of Earth humans turn to not only Billy's teaching but also the laws and recommendations of Creation.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 634
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 01:31 pm: |
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Wow, I think even Billy could appreciate Mark Twain's way with words.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-niose/great-nonbelievers-atheists-history_b_1677760.html#slide=1231078
"Twain was satirical of piety and organized religion in his writing, but he saved his sharpest criticism of religion for his autobiography, which by his own instructions was not published until 2010, a hundred years after his death. "There is one notable thing about our Christianity: bad, bloody, merciless, money-grabbing, and predatory," he wrote. "The fleets of the world could swim in spacious comfort in the innocent blood it has spilled." |
Cbp0009
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 07:11 pm: |
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Ah yes, nothing like getting out from under the crazy tree, then running over to the house of fire and brimstone. I guess she, like all the other catholics just disregard the fact that catholicism is responsible for more deaths than any other religion. But as aforementioned it will take us even a little longer than 800 yrs Billy said.If i remember correctly, the 800 yrs was lees about religion and more about everyone becoming true human beings. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2468
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 12:53 am: |
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Hi Redbeard...and All....
The numbers 700 and 800 years was mentioned. By Billy as well as Christian,
in the past. So, it is all dependent on HOW we humans behave and manifest in
our future, to be.
I am also, familiar with that Teacher of the future. Not to forget, his
opposite, will be another Church representative of GOD. Thus, we have here
another Clashing to be confronted with when this time comes. And, not to
forget the Wolf, I think it was, which will have very much significance in
the coming future, also. Of course, IF, we can over-win these Negative
forces, perhaps we CAN accomplish within the 700-800 time period? Thus, we
should indeed manifest ourselves as much as possible within the framework of
Positivity, to let the odds be in our favor. We have allot, still to
accomplish. Not to forget those Criminals elements whom will want to restore
the monetary system, when it was in a state of being banished for some time
period. We will also, have to be successfully, in eliminating such
individuals.
If, we can accomplish this within the 800 years time frame, we can applaud
this. I do not think it is 'doubtful', I think it is possible. Remember, we
can always Change a Prophecy, for there better. If we 'think' 800 years,
than, we are making this Prophecy into as Prediction, which it is not, and
which we should NOT make it into. Let it be a Prophecy, and let us alter it
for the Betterment of all man kind and all other living creatures, etc....
Let it be a Prophecy and not a Prediction....
Edward. |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 04:00 am: |
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Hello Edward,
Yes, 700, 800 and such were mentioned, but to give you more precise interpretation (based on my study);
- this time period, namely about 870 years is "final part" of foreseeable future - as called by Plejaren. Or, the final part of the threefold world naturally created by the planet Earth as functioning entity in another dimension.
Plejaren technology allows them to penetrate into those worlds and analyse "what's in store for us" in the future. Thus, all naturally occurring events are to be predictions since no human influence is possible to alter them in "foreseeable future".
You can imagine ripple effect of changes made in our present time affecting all three folds. Plejaren are very kind to allow and warn us with their information about the "possible future", although, based on what they said, mostly calculations made for next 100 years occupy them, as anything further (apart from cosmic/natural events) gets more and more "blurry" - changable. You can find more descriptive form of this in CR 039.
Salome |
Corey
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 08:38 am: |
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Edward,
When it comes to the "Wolf" here's an answer from 2004: Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 01:04 am:
Hampton Chiu
Hi Mr. Meier:
I remembered reading about Semjase took you through the Bermuda Triangle's time/space 'warm hole' or tunnel, and reached the world 460 years after the year the event occured, which is about 1980, and at that future time, earth people have developed some spacecraft similar to beamship, and Semjase need to change her ship's protection to avoid being detected by the human being at that time, because at around that time, A.D. 2440, earth human being are trying to stop and inspect all space travelling ship passing through this part of solar system.
Is that because just few year before that the animal 'WOLF' attached humna beings on earth and that animal is brought to Earth by some uninspected space craft?
Thank you.
Answer:Actually, it's not a WOLF, but WUV , which means Welt-Umwelt-Verschmutzung (world environmental pollution), etc. etc., and includes organizations and countries like EU, USA, etc.
(Note by CF: There are no dates given)
I don't know if this is the "Wolf" your talking about, but just in case I posted it.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:207 Was der Regen für die Wüste ist, das ist das Wissen und die Wahrheit für den Suchenden. What the rain is for the desert, is what the knowledge and the truth is for the seeker.
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Cbp0009
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 09:59 pm: |
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Maybe this is what you're referring to; Contact 251- These events are also associated with grave danger,however, for dangerous diseases and epidemics will brought back to earth by way of space travel,along with the exceedingly vicious "wolf" is not clear yet and its explanation is still pending. According to the prediction,this deadly factor will be introduced or carried to Earth either by ordinary space travellers or by law breaking space travellers. IF its not what Corey was talking bout maybe that's it. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2471
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 12:15 am: |
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Hi Ferbon....
A - forseeable future -, CAN be Altered!
We have to do this NOW. 'In The NOW'...eg, our Present time. As Billy
mentioned, there is in reality only a Present and a Future. In the NOW, our
Present, we CAN alter a future event from occurring. Keep in mind: the Future
is NOT 'binding', it still has to be made. Thus, future events are not always
Predictions, but...Prophecies. Say, if we do nothing, concerning a disaster
scenario, and just sit and turn our thumbs, we make it into a Prediction,
BUT, if we take measures...to avert this disaster, we can speak of a
Prophecy, which is alterable.
Even, if we take, say, an astroid which is in collision with Earth, we can
either sit and wait till it hits us or we can take steps to destroy it,
change its trajectory, whatever. Thus, here, we can make this Prediction into
a Prophecy, with the help of our technology. Understand, to where I am
driving at?
Thus, in short: Our future is in most cases Prophecy based, and not per se
Prediction. Again, Cosmic Programmed Events, are in most cases not alterable,
BUT, when we look at the example I mentioned above of the astroid, we CAN
change this Prediction into a Prophecy; this just being one example of the
many, in which we can alter the out-come/result/effect from a Consequence -
Cause.
Edward. |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 09:04 am: |
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Edward,
The meaning of your post is clear.
Nonetheless, it could be supported by, aforementioned by you, examples. Therefore, could you name examples (apart from Red Meteor) where, by taking "measures" we can, or did alter future/past events? I know Plejaren can do that because of their technology and development.
NOTE: Please don't bring eradication of religions into your examples, if you will.
Salome |
Edward
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Post Number: 2476
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 12:22 am: |
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Hi Ferbon...
Just noticed your: Please don't bring eradication of religions into your
examples, if you will.
I think you may be misunderstanding what I am saying, that you come to such
conclusion. It is NOT the case...
We all have the Free Will (here) to express ourselves as much as we can to
get a certain point across; even, if someone likes it or not: everyone their
own opinion. Everyone, has to go on what they know...at that/this certain
time.
Thus, let us not dictate such 'things' as in your post, and give everyone the
space to think Freely.
I know, you are here NEW, and still have to get used to everybody's ways of
expressing themselves; take it from me, 'you ain't seen nothing, yet', as you
are a member/broadee, here. [I have been here, since this board started 1999,
thus, this speaks for itself...; 2002 on my specification box is error, is
due to server changing, and someone(moderator?) put 2002 (year of change) in,
instead of leaving it on 1999...]
Still: Pleasant Studying....
Edward. |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 03:38 am: |
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Edward,
I was referring to your- "this just being one example of the many, in which we can alter the out-come/result/effect from a Consequence - Cause."
when I asked if you could, indeed, provide some examples - apart from eradication of religion - which is already known from Billy.
It had nothing to do with your freedom of speech. Please excuse not personified form of contact, as a written message is, for such misunderstanding. I am sure if we spoke in person, such thing would not take place.
Salome |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 728
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 02:28 pm: |
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Speaking of eradicating religion ..... could this be a former identity of Herr Meier ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Malachy
Listing all 112 popes to come plus declaring the final one and ..... he even looks somewhat like a young Meier complete with beard according to the statue.
Hmmm, Billy Meier in a former life being a catholic priest .... maybe not but then naming all succeeding popes is quite a feat and apparently correctly including information about the final one though we are yet to see that .... however some of you undoubtedly will during your lifetime.
Cheers.
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 04:16 am: |
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Hi Ramirez
Why would you come up with this nonsense?
Right, just reading from wiki...
- "the list" was first published by some Benedictine historian in 1595- as part of his book- well here....If I would know the future in such details I would at least send pigeons with it to the holy see, actually many of them in case one got lost, actually framed the list and put it on my wall, sent it to all churches, translate the good news into many languages etc.  Indeed, you also have symbols of various popes attached to the list, amazing!
- then he- the historian, "attributed" the list to St Malachy who is coincidentally a priest
- original manuscript, not whatever the 16th century monk "publishes"- doesn't exist
- Malachy, apart from the attribution, has not come up with any other lists, predictions, etc. nor had he any contact with ET's, nor is he ever mentioned by them.
- the list is being so specific, except! for what has not happened yet hahah! which is a shroud of mystery convoluted into Latin multimeaning something
Doesn't it ring in absurd bell to you? well, except for the fact that the man depicted in the form of the statue has indeed a beard
Salome |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 469
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 08:55 am: |
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Hi Ferbon, one example would be the peace meditation which has been delaying WW3.
That's an interesting concept Ramirez. What better way to try and turn it around than by being in the middle of it.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 729
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 03:15 pm: |
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Hi Ferbon,
Whether Malachy created the list or someone else .... it's accurate isn't it.
Somewhere in the contact reports are confirmations that indeed after the present benedictine treasure will come the final papa along with arividerci roma.
Mr Meier seems to have a track record of lifetimes dedicated towards hastening the demise of a particular brand of religion starting with the letter C in some way or another ranging from anything to swords and .... err magic which is maybe why Merlin was called a magician to making fools out of them by declaring that the earth spins around the sun in an elliptical orbit not the other way around.
So he must have been filling in time somehow or other between being JC and the present Mr Meier.
If someone has news like that ..... naming the next 112 papas then predicting the end of skyman's number one racket it's hardly the sort of news and information which would likely be warmly received in the city of seven hills AKA roma.
Sounds like sorcery, magic, heresy .... maybe they have other labels like ..... witchcraft .... ooohhhh how satanic.
Anyhow i'm not claiming Malachy was a former personality of Me Meier for 100% absolutely certain, just proposing a possibility based on the contents of works alleged to have been written by him.
Even if it was a monk in 1595 which co-incidentally was a time when another huge fan of the roman racket was alive ..... Galileo.
Wonder if Galileo whispered a list of things to that monk or maybe even .... the monk heard silent voices or woke up with a head full of information which he wrote down in an excited frenzy .... impulses. Who knows except maybe the butler or tea lady.
How exactly are persons able to know or see the future actually able to see or know it ? With that list of papas someone was somewhat in the know even if the list requires interpretation.
Cheers.
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Colorado_dirk
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 09:31 pm: |
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It should be noted that Nostradamus lived shortly before that time the Benedictine monk published them (he died in 1566) and therefore some speculate that the list of popes was written by him and falsely credited to St. Malachy by the monk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
It's uncanny that someone would publish such correct predictions when someone else had this gift just a few years before. What are the odds of that?
Were Nostradamus to reveal the end of the catholic church during his lifetime, they would have terminated him immediately, the same goes for St. Malachy. It would make sense that a third party would reveal them without credit of the original author to avoid punishment as well. It is convenient to associate such bad news for the administrators of the skyman on two dead guys.
Something to think about.
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 04:03 am: |
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Ramirez -
Your mind is searching for answers in chaos, whereas the truth resides in order.
Billy's destiny (to the smallest details) has been predetermined since the time immemorial and fractionally deviates ONLY then, when he is trying to rebel against it.
There is no "he was Gallileo - because he look alike", or Malachy - because he had to fill his time between being a prophet.
Again, as I emphasized many times before, please search in order/logic and the facts of creation's laws ,instead of letting your mind into hollywood-like scenarios.
NOTHING about events, travels, meetings, duration's etc. etc. is accidental!!
- There is no person in the coffee place whispering something into somebodies ear to create list of Popes.
- There is no figure that was him because they look alike.
- There is no "we have a free afternoon - let's go to 13th century"
EVERY event is placed, arranged and fulfilled for us to uncover the truth - not to entertain.
EVERY meeting, event, place, time, duration, etc. is meticulously and logically chosen.
NO figure, measurement, dimension, duration, name, is also accidental.
Billy IS NOT a religious person - "prophet" word derives from "announcement".
By his life we are being announced about the truth.
Jmmanuel was announcing the truth in allegories.
Billy lives his present life as an allegory, so that all of us could find clues in it.
Salome |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 470
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 12:59 am: |
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Ferbon, there is no way Billy's destiny is predetermined to the smallest detail. That would mean that he doesn't have free will. He does. An example of free will would be Hitler who the Ps have said could have gone on to do great things, but instead was influenced by the Thule society to try and take over the world. You don't think that Giza didn't try their hardest to influence Billy? I am proud that he resisted and am thankful that we are so lucky to have him as our guide and prophet.
And somewhere in the contact reports it says that people always incarnate looking a lot like their former selves. Also accidents have and do happen, you just have to look around to see it. As I see it, there are only two sure things - the laws of creation and the Ps ability to look into the future to determine the probabilities of some events happening.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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