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Andyv24
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 10:49 am: | 
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So...starting to think that they will never get around to electing a proper new pope. For the fact that Tarcisio 'Pietro' Bertone (Peter the Roman), as of today, is already assuming position as the default leader, and further, that the Henoch prophecies wording doesn't name the fellow following Benedict as a pope per se but as a mere "Pontifex Maximus"... it seems the last leader is already in place? This Bertone, the long-awaited Petrus Romanus?? Is this largely the consensus here then? |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 06:42 am: |
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Herbert
Any "game" or activity endangering your life or health (also spiritual and mind health) performed for the sole purpose of "entertainment" , show or adrenaline rush.
Salome |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 12:41 pm: |
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Herbert;
I don't know but a good question,maybe he was alluding to things like extreme sports,X games and the like, every year more and more extreme sports pop up and usually at least somebody gets killed or mangled,anyway just a theory. |
Jonzie
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 01:28 pm: |
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Herbert, it is more likely that this is a reference to Olympics, sports. Your life would not be endangered in a video game. Just my opinion
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Friday, March 01, 2013 - 06:25 pm: |
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Hi Herbert,
This could be what they might be talking about.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12463.html#POST62793
phil |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 825
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 06:35 am: |
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Hi Andyv24,
Do you know of any official vatican announcements concerning the appointment of Tarcisio 'Pietro' Bertone as interim acting pope pending the conclave election ?
Are there any links to such an announcement ?
Cheers.
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Andyv24
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 02:04 pm: |
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Hi Rameriz,
Yes, this article,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/01/vatican-takes-first-steps_0_n_2789671.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl22%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D277111
suggests it is protocol that the 'camerlengo,' Bertone, "takes over the day-to-day running the Holy See as soon as the papacy ends."
Again, seemingly then the long foretold "Petrus Romanus" has already assumed his position? With the Church, for whatever reasons, never getting around to electing a new pope? All this meaning, perhaps, that the great fall of the Church is quite quite imminent...?
Regards,
Andy |
Andyv24
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 02:08 pm: |
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Though the above of course does not constitute an 'official vatican announcement'... reliable nonetheless you'd think... pretty wild. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 827
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 07:47 pm: |
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Hi Andyv24,
Thanks, it's going to be a very interesting month waiting to see who becomes the officially elected 112th pope.
But already Peter The Roman is acting pope .....
Cheers.
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Corey
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Post Number: 366
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 07:41 am: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/top-contenders-next-pope-111355699.html
Here is a list for the top contenders to be the next pope, and there are two different Peters.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Scott
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Post Number: 2377
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2013 - 01:19 pm: |
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Hi Corey,
Do you know if the information concerning the last Pope comes from a Prophecy or Prediction? I know it has been mentioned, that perhaps the Vatican is aware of what Billy has stated, and therefore will do its best to thwart that information.
Thanks
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Corey
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Post Number: 367
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 07:38 am: |
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Hi Scott,
To the best of my knowledge the last pope is part of the Henoch prophecies and thus would fall under the categorization of prophecy. Keep in mind some years ago in the questions section, when asked if any he was aware of any parts of the Henoch prophecies that were not coming true Billy simply said "no", so whether the Vatican tries to thwart the information remains to be seen. I guess we will have to await the results, I think they start their ballots today.
If a Peter is elected pope, it would be another example of a BEAM validation where he published it first, but not the kind we would want, hence the dangerous time foretold for the future, waiting to be fulfilled. Maybe if it does happen, it could be used as a final warning of some kind. The way the earth human is still trampling on peace, freedom, and love the probability of the prophecies coming true still must be high IMO.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 465
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 08:09 am: |
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The fulfillment of the Henoch prophecies relating to this event will serve as a powerful testament to the validity of the present prophet.
Those of the Vatican who are aware of the Henoch prophecies will see their fulfillment and gain something positive from the cognition. True love is fair and considerate of all and everyone. It is not the sinner but the sin.
10,500 years worth of efforts are now coming to fruition.
I sense that those in the Vatican who know of the Henoch prophecies will not make mention so as to avoid ridicule. Bound by the spell of their own indoctrination, the prophecies will come true and the world will begin a new phase, a new direction for humanity.
It is a necessary negative with a positive outcome.
Salome,
Eddie |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 275
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 11:59 am: |
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This Popishness is just a signpost. In the greater scheme of things, it matters less whether or not the Henoch Prophecies literally come true. What matters more is how people are living and loving, learning to happily see and fairly interact with the world, taking advantage of the genuine opportunities for self-growth that we all crave. What matters is the wisdom humanity collectively brings to bear on the formidable problems facing our planet. Lacking this, the next papal leader could be called 'Aeris' and it matters not, the greater pattern of misery and conflict for the least fortunate will continue.
Dare I say it, so long as our society hones its creative process primarily through predatory overcompetition, things are only gonna get worse. This is a simple prophecy with a long term pattern, no signposts necessary.
Life
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 239
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - 06:21 pm: |
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What makes me wonder is the excerpt from one of the contacts where P's say that Vatican was deliberately built in such place. That would mean that destruction of Vatican and Rome is a prediction just like all natural events and is based on geological knowledge and as such was known even before Vatican was built.
Such knowledge allows to estimate which pope will be last one - in form of the prophecy BUT (as much as the exact date of Vatican's demise is known for sure) the exact number of popes until then will prove itself in the near future.
Please note that even with destruction of this historical place - religion itself will not be erased from the face of the planet.
With huge volcanic eruptions probably air traffic will be stopped and we may experience some climatic changes not to mention respiratory problems and political destabilization. All in all we better learn something about volcanoes before Vesuvius hits the fan.
Salome |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 99
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 12:14 pm: |
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Well here we go with a lot of posts im sure;
So what does everyone think of the new Pope and the connection to the prophecies?
Did the Vatican elect someone else on purpose,because they well know of the Henoch prophecies,of Billy and the mission?
I would also like to ask if anyone remembers in the prophecies or somewhere else where it talks about how the last Pope will flee back to South America after the collapse of the church?I could be mistaken about that but was vividly sticking out in my mind that's what is supposed to happen.So if anyone can clear that up please post.Plus he is 76,already up there in age,which definitely doesn't look good for the Pope only sitting in office for a short time. |
Namd3
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 12:42 pm: |
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Interesting, the Last Pope from South America, I'm wondering how Catholic church collapses? Estimated 1 billion people suddenly no longer believes?
Hes old so its going to happen in the next decade...
Child abuse cases get worse? its already taken the head of the one of UK's Catholic Bishops?
Rome/Vatican rocked by some natural disaster possible Earthquake/volcano?
Vatican goes bust? financial ruin? |
Joe_ottawa
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 06-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 03:34 pm: |
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This was suppose to be the last pope if we did not change the way we think. Maybe this is a good thing, maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Remember, this was only a prophesy. |
Gib_niner
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 06:11 pm: |
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hey guys - been away for a while - thought i should pass this revelation on, in the beginning i was a bit perplexed, just thought it would be Bertone that would come through somehow, with a literal as opposed to more cryptic reading of things, however think i have spotted something of interest..
A lot of people (esp. pro Catholic types or such like) saying that the Malachy prophecy (and by extension i guess Billys too you might say) does not apply to the new selection of Bergoglio as Pope, and that as a consequence the prophecy (overall) has been rendered false - however...always with the Malachy prophecies there was usually something cryptic to be found was there not , like with the coat of arms or the new name taken - and so anyway, thus it follows that maybe there is something of that nature going on here again after all...i.e. the following...
"Saint Francis of Assisi, Italian San Francesco d’Assisi, baptized Giovanni, renamed Francesco, original name Francesco di PIETRO di Bernardone"
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/216793/Saint-Francis-of-Assisi
Added to which...of course that... Jorge Mario Bergoglio is Italian descent (Roman) and a Jesuit. therefore "Petrus Romanus" implying that this pope will reaffirm the authority of the Roman Pontiff over the Church and will emphasize the supremacy of the Roman Catholic Faith and the Roman Catholic Church above all other religions and denominations, and its authority over all Christians and all peoples of the world. As....
concerning the Jesuits.... their order was organized "to stop Protestantism from spreading and to preserve communion with Rome and the successor of Peter..." (wiki)
therefore ultimately when you add it all up - is there enough here to have a Petrus Romanus (a Peter the Roman) here in this respect?? - i guess everyone has to decide for him/her self. :]
Salome :]]
Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Joe_ottawa
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 06-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 03:48 am: |
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It almost sounds like you're looking for anything to try and make this prophesy come true.
"Quetzal: …Before I give you a clear account of the prophecies of Henoch, I would like to point out that prophecies are always changeable and can be changed for the better if man makes positive changes in his thoughts, feelings and actions, leading to that which is better and positively progressive. Prophecies always rest upon specific causes; these again result in certain effects, whereby these effects can be changed at any time if only the preceding causes are changed in their form. Therefore, it is possible that negative or evil prophecies do not have to be fulfilled if the preceding causes will be purposely changed in a manner that positivity and good develop instead of negativity and evil."
Maybe things are changing for the better, why would you want this propeshy to come true? |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 656
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 09:30 pm: |
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>=20 Interestingly enough both Amy and Robin (FIGU forum moderator) pointed = out that:
"=85he will be known as Petrus Maximus." Not that his name will be = Petrus Maximus. That may develop over time for various reasons.
Again, time will tell. |
Gib_niner
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 11:39 am: |
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Joe Ottawa , no its not just anything - you are wrong to say that. When one is familiar with how these kinds of prophecies play out..that St. Francis' second name was Peter IS quite significant.
{There was a similar turn of play last time round - the church thought they were free of it - there was nothing about olive(s) anywhere initially - it was only after the name Benedict was chosen that the true meaning became crystal clear. And here again this time round - Christians were/have-been posting online rampantly with glee - that there is no Peter to be found anywhere in any respect - yet nevertheless there it is to found in the end, as we can see. }
So from that point of view more of an a-ha moment more than anything else.
In fact , the more you think about it - the more you come into a position of seeing that the prophecy was NAILED once again!
Thus that the new pope - Francis - is Francis-Pietro (PETER) the Roman, the prophecy is fulfilled!
By the way , just an aside , there are prophecies made by quite a few others down throughout history that strongly feature the playing-out of a pope that is forced to flee into exile (in the link that follows - in one of them it says that he will wind up at Cologne) - Also there was even a prophetic contribution made by St. Francis of Assisi himself. makes for interesting reading maybe at this juncture. -
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/one-more-pope/
Obviously no one would like these prophecies to be fulfilled in the final analysis , but just to toss it around - wondering as a hypothetical if its the case that there are quite so many prophetic texts pointing in one direction, would folks be inclined to think that at the very least the odds are strongly staked against us? - Or do we still have as good a chance as not that they may overturned in the end.
Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb
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Dan_c
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 12:00 pm: |
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Petrus Maximus? Don't you mean Pontefix Maximus which means sort of like "maximum pontif" which is like saying highest pontif or pope. That's not a name of a person but of a position. The personal name given in the prophecy is Petrus Romanus. All popes were and are "Pontefix Maximus'". It's a positional name meaning pope or maximum pontif. Benedict, John Paul and so on were all pontefix maximus'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifex_Maximus
There's a more detailed description. |
