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    Dan_c Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 02-2010 |
I would think that their "thwarting" Billy's prophecy (which is not a prediction) about this would be more to do with their own self preservation than anything else since it goes on to say that many of them would be killed as it would be the most horrific tragedy the world had ever seen or some such... before a great war started. So if they believe Billy, then obviously they wouldn't want that to happen to themselves. Which is good. At least they're not completely stupid.  | ||
Joe_ottawa Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2011 |
Hey Gib_Niner, I thought his middle name was Mario? Not sure where you got Peter from. But I am still taking a wait and see attitude with this. Just hoping for the best. | ||
Joe_ottawa Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2011 |
Gib_niner, I get what you're saying. My apologies, I was thinking of the current pope's "real name". Interesting what you are saying. | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hey Joe_ottawa, No bother, truth be told there might have been a bit of that going on all the same, admittedly so, (trying to fit the prophecy together!) - you see i'm Irish myself - and so , is hard to listen to all these Christian fiends on the internet saying that Malachy was getting it wrong when they are not even making the bare minimum of effort to unscramble a cryptic message in the right way and so just carrying on with their navel-gazing inane stuff as usual. sigh/face-palm etc. Malachy (like Billy) gets em right!, always has always will :} Also is possible there is portion within us all that may have the slight nihilistic leaning, like 2% buried deep down that needs to be overcome...your post drew attention to that , seeing the Petrus Romanus arriving on the scene is an exciting prospect to behold. Yet in spite of, is probably better that he didn't come along at all - and so you have made a focus on that, of which you are indeed correct..and made me reflect on that issue a bit more in and of itself. Anyway, seeing that i have been the one to break out on this, i may as well go the whole hog, there were just a couple more little gems on the entire thing, that are maybe worth offering up , at least for their novelty factor. I thought this was a joke at first until i had a further root around on it. - Assisi is actually the name of a meteorite discovered in 1994. Thus Meteorite being pretty synonymous with rock. Therefore Rock equating to Peter. haha i love that one. Now also too....many seem to attribut this quatrain to the election of this new pope. Nostradamus second quatrain 49 of Century 5: Nul de l’Espaigne mais de l’antique France, Ne sera esleu pour le tremblant nacelle, A l’ennemy sera faicte fiance, Qui dans son regne sera peste cruelle. Not from Spain but from ancient France, Will be elected for the trembling ship [the Bark of St. Peter], He will make a promise to the enemy, Who will cause great plague during his reign. So, Pope Francis is from Argentina (Old Spain right), nope, his parents are from Turin, which happens to be ancient France (Lombards and Charlemagne) – {However we also have Tarcisio Bertone factoring in here included in the mix, as he was born from a part of Italy that once belonged to ancient France, and he also "sat" as bishop of Rome/camerlengo after Benedict's resignation and before the new pope's "election".} Something tells me that Bertone still has a significant part to play in all this. Going on nothing else myself than merely the look of him, the first time i saw him i thought he had the look of someone who was a real 'man of the times' , or that he was great historical figure for these times that we are in, yet one that we are still able to catch sight of alive and kicking as it were, if you catch my drift on that. dunno just had a feeling about it. Not forgetting that there is mention of a 'dreadful judge' in the Malachy prophecy - wonder might Bertone be the one to step into those shoes?? guess time will tell on that one for sure. And so anyway, lastly, i'm first to admit that you can of course get carried away with this kind of thing , but the following.., not something one would think of initially , but makes a little more sense the more you actually dwell on it. "Roman," A COMMON DESIGNATION for "Romans" was LATINS. As a matter of fact- "Latinized" countries were those that were INFLUENCED by the Roman Empire- legally and culturally. You can't escape it- historically, Latin=Roman. Ok thats about it for now :] Dig the well before you are thirsty. ~Chinese Proverb | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 823 Registered: 10-2008 |
It's very possible that there is a 'Pedro' somewhere in his full name . Many Latin American names are 4 and 5 names long , and possible shortened because of the known-by-Vatocans prophecy of Billy's . | ||
Andyv24 Member Post Number: 32 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hey Gib, I was with you, thinking Bertone would take the ignoble throne. Woulda fit so nicely. Interesting though you found a Peter in Bergoglio's closet of names. But now I am realizing, "Peter" or not, should this one prove to indeed be the last, he surely will come to be known as "Petrus Romanus," as undoubtedly at that time the Malachy prophecy will again be of high interest, with people now saying "oh he really was "Petrus Romanus" from that saints (or Billy's) prophecy!"-- to forever be remembered by that name if only for being designated it in the prophecies. Another thing, though some appear to think otherwise, I was under the impression that this this-pope-gonna-be-the-last message was indeed a "prediction" (though I realize it is taken from the Henoch Prophecy). Could of sworn I read this in the info somewhere. Were any others under this impression, that this pope stuff had "prediction" status? Or perhaps I got this was from faulty Randy Winters info? Anyways. Godspeed. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 634 Registered: 03-2007 |
The fact that the new pope is a Jesuit is quite significant. Members of the order are well known for donning themselves in black attire: black frocks, black cassocks, black hat, etc. and consequently, the head of the Jesuit order is referred to as “The Black Pope” - a somewhat derogatory nickname. Picture of Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio riding public transportation in Argentina.  Historically, Jesuits have been in the forefront of the movement known as liberation theology, which encouraged the oppressed to unite along class lines and seek change. And there is already evidence that Pope Francis will butt heads with the status quo in the Vatican and the papacy will never be the same again. Minutes after the election result was declared in the Sistine Chapel, a Vatican official called the Master of Ceremonies offered to the new Pope the traditional papal red cape trimmed with ermine that his predecessor Pope Benedict XVI gladly wore on ceremonial occasions. "No thank you, Monsignore," Pope Francis is reported to have replied. "You put it on instead. Carnival time is over!" It was just one small sign out of many this week that as Massimo Franco, one of Italy's shrewdest political editorial writers, commented in the Corriere Della Sera, "the era of the Pope-King and of the Vatican court is over". You only had to look at the shocked faces of many of the courtiers when they suddenly realized the significance of what had happened and understood that it really was over. Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21813874 After the seal to the pope’s apartment was broken, and he peered inside for the first time he stood silent and motionless for a moment."There's room for 300 people here," he's reported to have remarked. "I don't need all this space." In keeping with the Jesuit ideal to live simply, Francis in his first days as pope opted to ride in a minibus with his fellow cardinals rather than a private Vatican car. And on Saturday, he suggested a humble course for the church as a whole. “How I would like a poor church,” he said, one that was “for the poor.” - the ideology of Francis of Assisi, who abandoned comfort to join beggars. If the new pope proceeds with the reforms necessary to address the mismanagement, corruption, money laundering, etc. and then to also make it more responsive to the poor, it will be easy to see how he might have the moniker of "The Black Pope" attached to him, particularly within certain circles and even the press. And it is easy to see how previously embedded power structures within the Vatican will feel threatened to the point of action - and not of the benign sort. In fact, he has already locked horns with the Vatican once before. In 2005, then Pope Benedict quoted from an obscure medieval text which declared that the Prophet Mohammed, founder of the Islamic faith, was "evil and inhuman", enraging the Muslim population and causing attacks on churches throughout the world before an apology was issued. Reacting within days to the statements, speaking through a spokesman to Newsweek Argentina, then Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio declared his "unhappiness" with the statements, made at the University of Regensburg in Germany, and encouraged many of his subordinates with the Church to do the same. The Vatican reacted quickly, removing, Joaquín Piña the Archbishop of Puerto Iguazú from his post within four days of his making similar statements to the Argentine national media, sending a clear statement to Cardinal Bergoglio that he would be next should he choose to persist. Reacting to the threats from Rome, Cardinal Bergoglio cancelled his plans to fly to Rome, choosing to boycott the second synod that Pope Benedict had called during his tenure as pontiff. And, in what may prove to be a somewhat ominous case of foreshadowing, Pope Francis toasted the cardinals who had just elected him by joking, “May God forgive you for what you’ve done.” Regards Bob | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2700 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Andyv24... It is mentioned in Henoch's Prophecies....and Billy and Ptaah's last conversation, concerning the last Contact Note(s). [Quetzal, mentioned similar...] Excerpt Contact 249 A talk between Ptaah, an IHWH from the Pleiades/Plejares, and 'Billy' Eduard A. Meier, Switzerland Monday, June 13th, 1994, 11:36 p.m. Should the prophecy of another world war fulfill itself, and should terrestrial humankind not immediately begin rethinking and redirecting its entire effort into beneficial routes, the consequences of this World War III will be cataclysmic. Likewise, this holds true for an enormous revenge- campaign directed against the war precipitators, which will be initiated and directed by a bloodthirsty man, who is --- how could it be otherwise? --- another "Representative of God", a pope. Once again, these events are based on the condition that the prophecy fulfills itself through the fault of Earth's human beings. Edward. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 614 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Edward It seems that the new pope is dirtier than once assumed http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675 This means that the new pope cannot reside in Rome due to the earthquake and the volcanic eruption of Mt Vesuvius. cheers Matt Lee | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2704 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Matt.... Yes: Skeletons in the closet; as usual!! Edward. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 07-2012 |
What i see in that picture above,besides he looks like he's reaching in his robe to pull out his strap and bust a cap, is,look at his dead and empty eyes,yes it could just be the picture,but you can tell a lot from looking at someone through their eyes,and seeing whats behind them.I haven't read the article above yet but i was going to say that anyway that he looked like a guy who is very fake, meaning,he likes to appear to walk the walk but truly is different with the ideas in his head.Those are the most dangerous types. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 245 Registered: 05-2012 |
Blake_p "...pull out his strap and bust a cap, is,look at his dead and empty eyes..." LOL, well, the dilemma that Catholic priests face every day is banal. On one hand they must appear saint, on the other - they aren't. Salome | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 832 Registered: 06-2008 |
Bergoglio the Banal ..... is that like Atilla the Hun ? Watch, but more importantly listen to some of his speeches on Youtube apparently being read from a scripted idiot card. You will soon get the idea this guy is a lifeless cardboard cutout of a shallow nobody playing out a theatrical pantomine for the audience. People visit temples and open squares in rome to listen to that .... former bootlicker to fascist dictators reading nonsense from a card ..... now that is banal. Here's one picture.  Then another.  Cheers. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 07-2012 |
Ferbon; Forsure,i agree with you,like i said it could be just the pic or that he was tired or anything else for that matter,but as a contrast,look at the pictures of Billy,looking at his eyes you automatically see a very inviting and accepting softness,a warm, personal comfort and approachability. And yea i was laughing at that pic of him reaching in his robe,he looks like (i wish somebody would)ha, i was actually gonna write out an entire Pope parody that i thought of when i saw that but got a little tired and gave up on the idea. | ||
Scanny88 New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2013 |
Hello i would like to put out a discussion/ clarification between "Atheism" and billy meier, is there any contact notes as such or discuss Salome Eklund Rödhes | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 674 Registered: 06-2009 |
"...lifeless cardboard cutout of a shallow nobody playing out a theatrical pantomine for the audience." Ha ha ha...too good. Everything comes to us that belongs to us if we create the capacity to receive it - Rabindranath Tagore | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 689 Registered: 05-2008 |
Greetings Eklund. You can begin reading the below & go from there. There is plenty of info on God-belief & related topics. http://ca.figu.org/God-Delusion.html http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/GodsHuman.htm Salome, Bruce | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 256 Registered: 05-2012 |
Maybe we could ask P's about some accurate information about Mr. Bergoglio. Maybe he's not even a believer - although he actually looks like one. People are fascinated because he acts as a commoner, but what is that mean really? A submissive type. For what reason? "Bergoglio the Banal" "...lifeless cardboard cutout of a shallow nobody playing out a theatrical pantomine for the audience." "... dead and empty eyes.", etc. Let's be sure, ok? Salome | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 703 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Ramirez Please see this link http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol10pg#doctors | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 878 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Ferbon, "Maybe we could ask P's about some accurate information about Mr. Bergoglio. Maybe he's not even a believer - although he actually looks like one." Billy eventually gets around to this in a contact report with Ptaah .... asks about various persons and the answers are always interesting plus revealing. I never said dead and empty eyes .... that's someone else however about believer .... Transsubstantiation where it's proposed that a cup of wine becomes the body of Christ and a cracker wafer biscuit becomes his body after consecration by a priest ..... hang on, isn't that magic ? and haven't the true faith of skydaddy been burning people for practicing magic for hundreds of years until it became less than fashionable and widely acceptable ? Really it's miraculous that a cup of wine and cracker biscuit can become transformed into the blood and flesh of a 2,000 year old corpse which never existed in the first place because there is no geezus and never was either in the sky or walking about on the planet .... it's a fictitious name given to Jmannuel after his death. So for a person to assert that literally .... in actuality after a pantomine ceremony conducted by a priest wine bought probably from a liquor store and cracker buscuit from a supermarket become the actual blood and flesh of a 2,000 year old corpse. It's sheer barking madness .... psychosis. A psychotic disorder of the mind to believe such a thing is real. If you were to visit a catholic church and look at the cup of wine and cracker biscuits what would you see ? a cup of wine and cracker biscuits .... yeah, would you agree ? Now if someone were to claim that those items are real blood and flesh of a 2,000 year old corpse .... not symbolicly .... for actually real then isn't something dramatically wrong inside that person's mind ? So this character gets dressed up in a fancy outfit and parades about on a balcony in Rome proclaiming such things are really for real ..... You work it out ...... Hi Newinitiation, Concerning this: http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol10pg#doctors Sure, i'm familiar with some parts of that and how various programs have affected individuals. Did you post it as a way of pointing towards how some persons might have ended up going nutty or explains why some persons seem unhinged ? I agree, probably at least some of that information is quite accurate and yes there are persons affected by psychological or hypnotic experimentation living less than ideal lives as a result and yes the experimentation continues. Cheers. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 704 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Ramirez I can't seem to find the case about a young man who was incarcerated by a judge, rambling what to ordinary people would've been stark raving mad but on a closer inspection made sense to those who were in the know. That young man kept repeating something to the effect of the government monitoring him and is coming to get him and all the rest of it. I think he was a classic case of a mind control victim who ended up being suicided while he was in jail. So I had this in mind when I wrote what I did As for the link the purpose was to provide some plausible explanation or cause of why some people end up deranged. cheers Matt | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 261 Registered: 11-2008 |
Religion to Disappear By 2041 Claims New Study http://guardianlv.com/2013/07/religion-to-disappear-by-2041-claims-new-study/ I personally don't think so. Anyway according to the Meier material it would take several hundred years for there to be no more religion. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 156 Registered: 07-2012 |
Joe, Yea even I've noticed,my generation(im 32)and the younger,even more,are moving toward a more logical approach toward belief systems.But that change is very small,in my opinion.The real change I've seen is the progress in being far more open minded about a great many things,which is good. But yea as you eluded to,don't be fooled by that. The pillars of religion and their remnants will be around even after the projected 800 years. It even mentions when the guy comes and presents the spiritual teaching,which will be greatly successful,the religions will launch global countermeasures,probably spinning it to incorporate the teaching into religion somehow. Remember,religion is a business,control,money, and power. And the people who control that, will not give it up easily,even if they know its the antithesis of the truth. |
