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Corey
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Post Number: 531
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh I almost forgot:

brief summary of German original to Englisch summary done by Corey, of "Arahat Athersata" page 180 verse 132-135 copywritten 1975/2004 by FIGU Wassermannzeit-Verlag
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Corey
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Post Number: 532
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramirez,

Arahat Athersata page 180 verse 132-135 explains that the bread and wine Jmmanuel was speaking about was nourishment for the spirit. The first form is for the material lifeform preservation for the life nourishment and fluid which is needed for the spirit in spirit-energetical form. The second nourishment form is is energy from the cosmic-electro-magnetic level and the third form is consciousness-based thought processes, which knowledge, wisdom, love and many other forces in the consciousness and spirit are built. The second and third form are the bread and wine Jmmanuel was speaking about. Over the last 2000 years it went from this, the true teaching in parable form to what we have today which is false communion.

yet another reason to learn German.

Salome

Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 986
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2014 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey,

Much appreciated ... yes being a non German fluent person has limitations but ..... it's too late to learn.

Also with parables .... those are inherently unsuitable to offer as explanations due to the so far undeveloped average human minds capacity to interpret them in any sort of neutral learning oriented way instead interpreting just about anything ambiguous in such a way as to obtain an advantage whether real in the world over others or imaginary by way of convincing oneself that some sort of reward, power or connection would result from having an explanation of the hidden meaning fall in certain ways ..... delusion.

However as Herr Meier has regularly pointed out if everything is offered straight out in your face no thinking or analysis required there's scant learning potential or growth available via that route so what's an acceptable compromise ?

Awkward question and surely one which has likely bothered prophets .... books full of unambiguous logical fact or the rather hazardous offering of partial truths dressed up as parables requiring interpretation leading to the social dangers inherent with having persons possessing undeveloped malicious minds making then enforcing interpretations with an agenda of gaining then reinforcing power and control over the general populace.

If a person would visit a patisserie then ask the counter staff for a cake and cappuccino what would be the likely response if a comment to the effect that that the cake you are pointing to is the body of Napoleon and coffee his blood, consuming both in the patisserie whilst muttering the French national anthem would ensure a mystical communion with the deceased person himself as well as smoothing the way towards being showered with an eternity of presents after death ..... you might conclude the counter staff are joking, might have maybe been having a bit of puff N stuff recently or are insane if their tone of voice is serious.

That's reality ..... but when visiting a skycult temple and encountering similar scenarios with equally improbable conceptual ideas it's accepted as being for real .... at least most participants pretend that's the case.

And .... whilst it's not correct or acceptable grammar to start a sentence with and but what the heck .... when having a conversation with Eve in the magical garden which language was the talking snake using ? ..... seeing Adam & Eve were allegedly the first persons on the planet where and how did language develop, what language was it and .... how do snakes manage to talk and where and how did the snake learn the language ?

Another mystery from temple delusions R us incorporated.
Cheers.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1022
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As most members here know, the Satanic, Luciferian, devil worshipping, ritual child sacrificing, child kidnapping, war mongering, whoring, eschatology minded and symbol driven Armageddonite have infiltrated every sector of most nations here on earth which also includes Korea.

Now I am quite perplexed as to why sharp eyed symbol minded investigators and researchers to the occult symbolism haven't picked this one up considering how blatant in your face and out in the open this one was or maybe due to the country it was in and hiding so plainly in plain sight they must have missed it.

I had to check this one out for myself to verify my suspicions by going to the sight and exactly to my suspicions they were confirmed without a shadow of doubt that the design was done by a satanist or satanists.

So a little trivia for you guys and gals

Pick out the hidden symbols

Snake
Tree of knowledge
666 (follow the path of the road and there is mor te than one)
Devil
Radiating sun
Key hole (think Vatican)
Scorched earth
6 steps to illumination
Pentagram
Belly of the beast "J"
Torch
Two devil's horns
Cone headed Alien Grey with 2 large eyes
All seeing eyes
Eye of Horus (more than one)

Unless you visit firsthand and look at the symbols in details which are many there are some things you aren't able to pick up from these satellite images.
Below link to the pentagram has 13 stone slabs to illumination.
666 water spout vents
6 smaller circles each comprising number of slabs divisible by 6 in 6, 12, 18, 36
90 outer slabs circumference of 6 rows + 1 row of 180 = 720 slabs divide that by 6 = 12 or 60+60*6
The inner pentagon has 45 slabs and the 5 pyramids having 13 vents on each side in addition to 13 slabs of stones for the outer edge.

Do any of you see it cos there is nothing on the internet about this or the significance of rituals disguised as festivals on masonically significant days being held each year.

http://map.daum.net/?panoid=6841060&pan=117.7&tilt=0.9&zoom=0&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=%ED%95%9C%EA%B0%95%EB%9A%9D%EC%84%AC+%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&urlX=515356&urlY=1119527&urlLevel=3

http://map.daum.net/?map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&q=%ED%95%9C%EA%B0%95%EB%9A%9D%EC%84%AC+%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&urlX=515432&urlY=1119465&urlLevel=3&itemId=12322646

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=%ED%95%9C%EA%B0%95%EB%9A%9D%EC%84%AC%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=37.529689,127.072248&spn=0.004824,0.010568&sll=37.09024,-112.5&sspn=39.371738,120.058594&hq=%EB%9A%9D%EC%84%AC%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&hnear=Hangang&t=h&z=17
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1024
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2014 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you fellas and gals look closer you can also find a cross and the purgatory of forest of hell.
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Norm
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Registered: 02-2000
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2014 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pope's peace doves attacked by crow and seagull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_JnOi4q7w
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, I see, the Seagull and the Crow recognized the Giza Intelligence doves and removed them.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Many years ago I had a lesson learn opportunity to be invited into the Church Universal and Triumphant, Elizabeth Clare (Wulf) Prophet at the helm. Her husband Mark Prophet started the church. After his passing, Elizabeth claimed that he is now an Ascended Master called Lanello. She, a self-proclaimed prophet, also claims that St. Germain and Jesus are in communication with her and angles are always surrounding her including Ark Angle Michael. She is a very good actress, attractive, flamboyant and able to drag in the masses to give her a lot of wealth and was involved in sex scandals with some of the church parishioners.

Many are calling this a “Dooms Day Cult”. Many bomb shelters were built on their 33,000 acre ranch in Montana; with all kinds of weapons according to those that left. They moved from California because Elizabeth declared it was going to fall into the ocean. Their membership is in the thousands. It was amazing to see how Elizabeth could direct the masses like sheep and convince many to give their entire estate to this cult. In many ways; this was no different that the Catholic Church.

https://www.google.com/#q=elizabeth+clare+prophet+and+Lanello
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1064
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth

Funny cos I had a similar experience in Korea where a beautiful women approached me on the streets enticing me to pay homage to my ancestors by paying tithe in a specially set up ceremonial area in their so called education center.

After a lengthy exchange I obliged just out of curiosity and ended up going through their supposed special newinitiation process which involved the usual brainwashing technique with ridiculous religious fables.

It ended sadly of course for all parties involved as my pointed and very logical rebuttals against their heinously illogical belief based reasoning with the help of the truth learnt from Billy's texts plus from a few other reasons nearly caused one devout long time senior member to quit the cult and I was summarily kicked out for being a bad influence.

These ugly religious cults have so many things in common between them in that this pyramid scheme financially benefits only a few, they are all based on lies, the devotees actually believe this nonsense, it's always hungry for money, their reach and exposure corrupts everything they touch wherever they go, they are still allowed to do their business and there is never a short supply of these unfathomably stupid idiots who keeps propping up the con through their gullibility.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The religious insanity continues:

Christian in Sudan sentenced to death for faith; 'I'm just praying,' husband says

"I'm so frustrated. I don't know what to do," Daniel Wani told CNN on Thursday. "I'm just praying."

This week a Khartoum court convicted his wife, Meriam Yehya Ibrahim, 27, of apostasy, or the renunciation of faith.

Ibrahim is Christian, her husband said. But the court considers her to be Muslim.

The court also convicted her of adultery and sentenced her to 100 lashes because her marriage to a Christian man is considered void under Sharia law.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/15/world/africa/sudan-christian-woman-apostasy/
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1069
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi fellow members

I've put together an ad hoc video of a Satanic park situated in the heart of Seoul

I think it's worth getting out because of the implication

Sorry I didn't do one for English

But please view it and if it's worth the bother please link it to other forums you participate in so that over time it'll make it's rounds and hopefully end up in the right head.

Thanks

Matt Lee
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1079
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2014 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh my, my corrected post with the actual link must not have been posted.
My mistake for failing to provide the link the first time.

Here it goes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0E2rqI4ij8

Thanks

Matt Lee
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Darren
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Post Number: 397
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2014 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Newinitiation,

Why is that Satanic monument there and who put it there and why?

Oh well, if North Korea ever attacks or goes to war with South Korea, being in the heart of Seoul, it will likely get bombed away!
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1080
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2014 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good $64,000 question Darren

I want to get to the bottom of it and try to find out because such a despicable rot should never have a place anywhere in our society let alone a major community park where children roam around and play in.

I mean you don't even have to think very much to get an answer as it is plain as day.

There is definitely graft involved with these corrupt officials from government who've most probably colluded with these Satanists to give the green light for such a design to be included in building of such a major park as this.

I just can't believe of all places this disgusting feces is in Korea, I mean, in a major way as to leave one stumped for answers.


Matt Lee
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 209
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren;

I do know that the idea of satan came from an extra terrestrial that had bone structures or "horns" pertruding from the top of his head,he was something like the Norse god of the hunt and was later falsified like everything else and was turned into the mythology of an all encompassing evil entity responsible for all wrong in the world and quite the pyromaniac,who likes to burn people for eternity.

As far as who took that idea and ran with it and perpetuated the static movement,i don't know,I would assume the church played the biggest part,after all,if you have a hero(god/Jesus),then you have to have the antagonist/bad guy. Furthermore, if this bad guy is always after you and up to no good,what better way to push people towards assimilation into the church,come with us,we offer protection and salvation for eternity. Not a bad pitch.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 1000
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2014 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The idea of satan ? ........ 53 minute documentary.

And ..... it is an idea not any sort of real being or entity though many are convinced otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rop_P_6L_5w
Cheers.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing can justify the cruel murder of an innocent journalist!
Nothing can justify the mass killings of males and rape of their wives and daughters!


May their sacrifice cause humanity to stand united.
To defend human dignity.
Against religious insanity.

James Foley – may your soul rest in peace.

Salome

Bill
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Darren
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Post Number: 450
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree, nothing can justify a cruel murder.

But why focus on one murder when there are thousands of other people being murdered elsewhere like in the current Gaza massacre? This is what our western mainstream media does.

This person was an American freelance journalist reporting in another country (Syria) and the 1,000's of people (innocent men, women and children) in Gaza were murdered in their own country at the hands of Israel

Also one must take into consideration that it was the Western powers that tried to instigate that war and trouble in Syria. The law of cause and effect.
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Darren
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Post Number: 451
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What I mean is why is there public outrage at the murder of one person who was (dangerously) in a foreign country and no public outrage at the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children who were in their own homes/country? Which one really deserves the public outrage??

Our Western media is completely biased and those who controls the media controls the thinking of the masses. A shame most people are sheep.
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Baselineplayer
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren,

Gaza is not alone. Look at the senseless massacres in Syria and Iraq committed by the so called "Islamic State", as well as by the Assad regime in Syria.

There we do not talk about thousands. We simply speak about hundreds of thousands killed.

The Gaza case is mainly because the "islamist" militants are using civilian infrastructures as schools, mosques, refugee camps etc, as staging grounds for military actions as firing rockets onto Israel. Then the consequences is that the Israelis targets these rocket launch pads that happens to be placed by civilian assets.

It is common in the ME, with this disregard for peoples' lives by state and organisation leaders with no exception.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards

/Baselineplayer
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Darren
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Post Number: 452
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Baselineplayer,

I used Gaza as an example. I did not say or make out like it was not happening elsewhere.

If "islamist" militants are using civilian infrastructures as schools, mosques, refugee camps etc, as staging grounds for military actions as firing rockets onto Israel, does that give Israel the right to level those buildings killing all those innocent people and children inside? How low is that? And I didn't see our Australian Government or Western world ones condemning Israel.

These rockets (most of which are homemade useless junk) being fired into Israel, how many Israeli people did they kill? Hardly any compared to how many Palestinians Israel has killed. The vast majority of the Israeli deaths were soldiers.

And I don't buy these stories of bombings of buildings like hospitals were due to wayward missiles because Israel has US pinpoint weapons/missiles and we saw how accurate they were in the Gulf War.

Every time an Israeli is killed Israel's Zionist Government always justifies it's killing response by saying "threatening our right to exist". Using the Holocaust! This is nonsense because over the last 50 years or so Israeli people and borders (stolen land) has been growing exponentially. It is the Palestinian people and land who's right to exist is being threatened. Take a look at the map below.

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And in the Meier material somewhere I recall it saying something like Israel plans to starve Palestinian people of most necessities so it can steal all it's land. Is this not correct?

If Israel got rid of it's Zionist regime and gave back all the land it stole from Palestine I think most if not all that trouble would stop.


Getting back to the beheading of this American journalist. Our Australian Prime Minister and Government was quick to voice their strong condemnation at the murder of this person (who is not Australian) but there was no Government condemnation at Israel for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children in Gaza. Our Australian Labor and Liberal Governments suck! Last election I voted for Julian Assange.
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Baselineplayer
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren,

I am sorry for hausing some stuff up.

But, I do Always compare all these conflicts together, and I simply found out that the Gaza fight, did have a lot of attention in a lot of western press outlets. I was a bit angered by that because we have wars in Syria and Iraq which have been far more worse than the Gaza outbreak. Also, I regard the Russian "sneak-war" attack on Ukraine as far more serious since that is a risk to develop into a new world war.

Another thing is also added: I simply do not like the ruling movement Hamas at all because it simply puts their own objective above the Palestinian people, which it pretends to represent. That problem with autocratic style of governments have infested the MENA region for centuries. This style of governments is also the root cause for the uprisings, revolutions and wars conducted during the last 4 years.
Now, some people would certainly appproach me and ask about ISIS (Islamic State), and their terror.

I regard ISIS as a product created by authoritarian governments in this area as well as by some "western" security services, that used ISIS as a dumping ground for Islamic radicals after the Al-Qaeda attacks on the USA in 2001. But since a few months, ISIS, have been that feared dragon let loose since no one could control it any longer. The Assad regime used ISIS to bring the rebels into disrepute.
All alliances in the MENA region is as is. One day as allied, and next day as enemies.
The people in these MENA countries have never experienced democracy, and they fall easy prey to another autocratic groups, like an evil spiral.

I hope that I have not errated too far from the topic here.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards

/Baselineplayer
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Darren
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Post Number: 458
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Baselineplayer,

On the 21st of last month when I put that post in as well as another post I put in the World War 3/4 section on that same day, I was not in a good mood because of something that happened that upset me. It was a private matter. In the other WW3 section/thread I wrote -

"I have not been in a good mood the past couple of days. Sorry about my rants."

I wrote the exact same thing here on that same day but for some reason the moderators didn't allow it to go through.

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