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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1278
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 08:48 pm: | 
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Does anybody here know if Billy has announced Mohammad's true heritage or ethnicity?
The conclusion that I've formed about prophet Mohammad is that he was white and not dark brown skinned.
Imagine what this revelation would do to the Islamic community if they've acknowledged this as fact.
The Lawrence of Arabia does have a tinge of Mohammadesque story to it.
Obviously his heritage or ethnicity would've been falsified or entirely erased from Islamic history and the Koran if indeed he was white blue eyed and blonde headed.
Poor Mohammad he is not getting much airtime anywhere.
Its alway Allah Akbar.
Holy Molly |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 08:23 am: |
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A really good article on religious delusion and why intelligent people steer away from it;
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/21/religions_smart_people_problem_the_shaky_intellectual_foundations_of_absolute_faith/ |
Vincent
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Post Number: 223
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 05:31 pm: |
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How far in the future will this be the case on religion with all world governments? -
Crackdown on Christmas Celebrations in China
Authorities in China have cracked down on Christmas celebrations in China, deeming them "Western spiritual pollution." Despite this crackdown, the interest in Christianity continues to grow in China. Some reports indicate that more than 3,000 Chinese Christians were baptized in Beijing on Christmas night.
Chinese police detained a Protestant woman who on Christmas Day tried to put up placards outside the Zhongnanhai, the exclusive government and Communist Party headquarters, located near the Imperial Palace.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/As-police-stops-woman-who-tried-to-bring-the-Gospel-to-Xi-Jinping,-Wenzhou-bans-Christmas-celebrations-in-schools-and-universities-33055.html |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 155
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 29, 2014 - 03:26 am: |
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Hi Blake,
Thank you for the good article.
“…advancing education is detrimental to religious belief.
….Because human beings need their childhood to end; they need to face life with all its bleakness and beauty, its lust and its love, its war and its peace. They need to make the world better. No one else will.”
I am reminded of CR 39.
In this CR Ptaah explains that originally humans "produced by their indirect ancestors" had an average life span of 1007 years.
But their acceptance of religions lead humans to work contrary to the laws of nature.
Their continued behavior change in several life cycles lead to a drastic decline of humanity’s lifespan changing the aging gene of our DNA correspondingly.
Result: Today we live less than 10 % of our original average life span.
It is truly sad that humanity lost the wisdom and peace that comes with “living longer”.
I say so because when one is young one is very much an “I” centered person – followed by ethnocentric (“our (ethnic) group is the center of everything”) tendencies and only when one is older one realizes more and more the “we” reality of all things universal.
No wonder our world politics lack in wisdom.
We simply do not live long enough to grow to full maturity.
Like “wild children trying to bully each other” we live in a world of minds competing to establish superiority.
The might of our thoughts has as well a great influence on our environment.
According to Ptaah our thoughts - “neglecting the laws of creation” - shorten even the life span of matter – e.g. on our planet “iron rusts much faster than it normally would”.
One positive, though – since the start of the Age of Aquarius humanity is freeing itself more and more from “erroneous teachings” and with it our age may slowly increase again.
Further details see http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Talk:Contact_Report_039
Salome,
Bill
PS
Ptaah mentions in CR 39 / 66
"At the earliest times, when the human being of the Earth was also produced by his indirect ancestors, his average age was reckoned at 1,007 years of life, for he, trained and informed by his producers, possessed an enormous level of knowledge and abilities."
Who would be our "indirect ancestors" (e.g. the Plejaren (creating Adam), the Sirius overlords creating slave-warriors) ? |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 275
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Monday, December 29, 2014 - 11:15 am: |
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Bill,
Couldn't have said it better myself.
When u have a world where everything is the exact opposite than the way it should be,well, that my friends is insanity. |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 911
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 01:21 am: |
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Current events have led me to think that the best way to replace the harmful effects of religions in mainstream society would be to instigate "self governance" . A self governing society would be directed by their own capacity for logic and not just a collection of robotic rules to blindly follow . It might be a start . |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1307
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 08:39 pm: |
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Mark it sounds like a good idea to 'sort of' start of the year. |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 06:40 am: |
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Mark,
One of the first steps away from religion is acceptance of reincarnation and therefore also self responsibility as these two travel together.
If you can get a person to understand that there is no fickle being that's going to wisk you away to paradise after one pathetic lifetime just because they pray to be favored over thier neighbors and agree to the mind numbing rules.
The realization of having to come back to the mess they're making in the current life then some reality of the future lives would truly force on our societies a desire to take better care of the planet and take responsibility for our actions or inactions.
Peace, Matt |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 - 03:37 pm: |
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My son came up with an interesting perspective on Religion.
He says,
According to Religion-
The true meaning of life is to arbitrarily suppress your true sinful self and desires for one meaningless lifetime, so that after you die hopefully you can be your true self for eternity! |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 - 02:07 am: |
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Redbeard,
Your son has a Voltaire wit when it comes to words. Please encourage him to flex his mental muscles as much as possible!
I'll freely admit that I have no conclusion by what is meant as Relegeon, but there is no lack of definition for religion. It took me years to break my affliction of atheism without dirtying the change by other religious hogwash. The line of being anti-religious vs being anti-spiritual is not a subject easily broached amongst the general throngs of society of many nations to the point that most notions are only entertained in America or Europe.
Religions, both Left Hand and Right Hand, are generalized book clubs designed as entertainment and consensus engines here in the modern times. Groups that spurn science for the reasons of thought control are obviously the most whacked. Thought control is at the heart of every religious organizer, whereas a religion originator is a person whom generally only wishes to spread profound understanding or messages.
In ancient times, religion was the key denominator for controlling people in a government setting. Religion and Government later became separated when Reason reared it's head into the Greek and Roman societies, only to be crushed by both religious barbarians and religious revolutionaries. Tainting history with religious perspectives is an easy way to mind control children because it doesn't get to the roots of war of resource domination, but still shows the intent of Religion's base goal of Mind Control.
Atheism and New Age religions are the most attractive to the modern era because of the sense of freedom of thought which is promoted within said circles, but these peoples are thoroughly insane when presented with information which is factual that directly violates their basis of faith; the same reaction when saying any Abrahamic Religion is bull honky. Buddhists gain the most respect from me simply because their "fanatics" do not have any reason to care if you want to deny their spiritual choice. The throngs of magic mushroom induced ideas spawned in america about spirituality makes a great case for why the Ps "had it" with trying to contact americans.
I'll round this out with a diatrab on faith. Faith, to me, is the dirtiest word in the English language when used in it's primary meaning of spiritual affiliation because it amounts to saying "I trust my feeling in nothing over anything you can say even if it is true." That is the general happening when such a conversation is broached UNLESS you are actually speaking to a religious leader or an open-minded believer. Sadly, many open minds are diluted by the dirty waters of historical fiction prancing around as fact.
Now here's some brain teasers for fun. It is perfectly correct to say that "I have faith in gravity," because Gravity is a faith based part of physics. It is the name we give to this binding force which produces stability of planets and stars. The reason Gravity is faith based is because it has no known cause, it simply is what it is according to our limited understanding. Hubble's Law is a science Law because it has a known cause; Einstein's Theory of Relativity is what it is stated as, a well tested theory with no known cause which keeps it from becoming Einstein's Law; hence having Faith in Einstein's theory for how gravity works is perfectly reasonable even by religion's standards. Einstein had a church erected to him in the form of Reason appreciation of his tested idea which still has no known cause.
I have faith in only 3 "prophets," and 2 of them have been dead for some time: Billy, Edgar Cayce, and Paracelsus. Every other fake prophet has derived their works from Paracelsus, if from Europe from before Billy, or from Billy and Cayce if from America after the 20th. I discount Nostradamus for the one reason that Paracelsus' Prognostications was easier to read, cyclical, and by far and away more clear on it's future intended targets.
Billy, true to his own written word, is the clearest prophet of all time WITH NO NEED OF PARABLES.
Jack -- 250 years of peace within the last 10,000 years, and we wonder why we all have a headache.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1343
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 - 02:18 am: |
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That's fantastic Matt
If you son is in his teens or even younger we might just have our next prophet waiting in line.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 277
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2015 - 08:39 am: |
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Verlanis & Newinitiation,
Sorry for taking so long replying, been dealing with stuff, my son was raised in a charismatic type church but unlike his siblings never could fit into the mold and was given considerable negative attention from them over his unwillingness to bend and conform. Once he hit about 17 and I could see he was quite disturbed about it all, I asked him whether or not he considered himself open minded and with a yes answer to that I then proceeded to slowly introduce him to some ideas starting with reincarnation, and went from there into more of the teachings and concepts that seemed appropriate to his knowledge and understanding at the time, and now at 24 we talk nearly every day about something.
He's the only one that I talk freely with as he's very logic grounded and extremely analytical, constantly picking things and people apart on a common sense overview.
He was much relieved to be out from under the judgement and condemnation of the typical religious dogma.
Verlanis
Very interesting post, I am interested in your reference to Atheism past as we have many relatives and friends with this affliction as you called it, locked in and locked down throw the key away, end of discussion type of stance.....
I would be interested to hear the progression that lead you to meier material, after all you had to accept the possibility of a creator and spirit, both unseen and unprovable in the scientific realm and community...
Peace, Matt |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1353
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2015 - 05:01 pm: |
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Lucky for you Matt that your son have overcome the religious indoctrination to the point where you can talk about the unblemished truth freely.
I hope to have such a relationship like yours with my son when he grows up.
Does your son also participate in this and theyflyblog forum? |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 278
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 11:39 am: |
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Newinitiation,
No he isn't on this forum but he follows the facebook figu group.
I have 4 sons and only this one and one other even knows that I am interested in this material, they know of course that I don't go to church anymore but as most people assume that I'm just an backslider.... Hah! Such a weird expression.... |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1365
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2015 - 03:40 am: |
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Wow you're a rich man Matt with 4 sons and 1 success thats fantastic odds what if we had 25% of the world's population genuinely accepting the Meier case as real who end up living by the teachings, its roughly 3 billion people give or take. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1393
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 12:38 am: |
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I think that the bureaucracy within the Vatican is worried.
Worried for their future survival.
Especially in light of their awareness of Billy's statements about them over the years and from the recent killing of Christians by ISIS.
The latest statements made by pope Francis about the threat to humanity posed by extreme materialism reflects the desperation I am talking about.
But why don't they set the example first by giving away their vast ill gotten wealth hoarded over millenia of its existence.
Doesn't the pope know the horrendous amount of assets, wealth, investments and money that the Vatican possesses.
Yet the ad nauseous hypocrisy of him preaching about something the masses already knows on the dangers of widening wealth gap and the society's obsession with materialism only further exacerbates the problem in that no matter how much he preaches about what we ought to do people with wealth will never change on their own initiative unless they are either forced by circumstances to do so out of self preservation and self interest or death does them and their wealth apart.
Just getting sick and tired of his moral preaching and half way measures but seldom do we get any worthwhile solution coming from the Vatican.
Gee what did I expect.
The very existence of this corrupt institution infested with the very people who are themselves part of the problem is the problem.
Why doesn't the pope just go all out and preach exactly what the Vatican has plegarised from Billy as Billy has stated exactly word for word instead that way at least he will be more effective in getting his message across to people.
If this institution called the Vatican want to continue to exists in the future their only solution and hope is to adopt the spiritual teachings by Billy and the Plejaren in their sermon as well as their organisational policies that will eventually root out the very corrupt vermins infesting it who are likewise obsessed with power and wealth the pope is preaching against.
Ironic isn't it. |
Kula1962
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2015
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2015 - 08:52 am: |
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I came across the name Billy Meier just a few weeks ago. I am reading his contact notes at the moment, but so far I did not find anything about Marian Apparitions in Medjugorje, Bosnia and Herzegovina. Since Billy talks a lot about religions, what is his opinion regarding these apparitions? I fully agree that religions sow confusion among people. Six visionaries in Medjugorje claim that Blessed Mother is still appearing to them, and is calling for peace tirelessly. Who is behind this project?
Vor wenigen Wochen, stiess ich auf den Namen Billy Meier. Zur Zeit, lese ich noch immer seine Kontaktaufzeichnungen, aber bis jetzt, habe ich noch nicht etwas ueber die Marienerscheinungen in Medjugorje, Bosnia und Herzegowina finden koennen. Da Billy sehr viel ueber die Religionen spricht, was waere seine Meinung in Bezug auf diese Erscheinungen? Ich bin vollkommen einverstanden, dass die Religionen die Verwierung unter den Leuten bringen. Die Erscheinung von “Unsere Dame von Medjugorje” ruft angeblich die ganze Welt auf die Frieden und Vernunft seit 1981 auf. Die sechs Seher von Medjugorje behaupten dass die Gottesmutter immer noch vor denen erscheint, und ruft auf die Frieden unermuedlich. Wer steht hinter diesem Projekt? |
Imaginosdesdinova
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 09:10 pm: |
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Hello Kula! I did not came across any info about Medjugorje incident in FIGU writings. Since incident occurred in 1981 it could not be Bafath because they were all deported form Earth in May 1978. There can be two explanations. They are constantly lying all those years or their psyche is seriously damaged. I do not know how many of them are still claiming to be in contact, but when we talk about Medjugorje it is obvious that money is a goal and falsehood lives on. Unfortunately. |
Paul_wr
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2013
| | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2015 - 09:39 am: |
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Hi Kula,
Imaginosdesdinova is not exactly correct because the Bafath excaped their prison and returned for a while in the early eighties until they were rounded up again.
The Sirius men in black were known for teleprojectected realities and hypnotics, and they were active until the turn of the new century. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 755
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 01:44 am: |
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Hello Paul,
Could you provide a specific source for that, please? It would be good to read the actual report.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Paul_wr
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 12:40 pm: |
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Hi Cpl,
Yes, here is the Report whereby the splinter group the "Saban" were captured shorty after the Giza intelligences were re-captured, http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_179
Reading the reports leading up to this one will surely enlighten you some more.
Regarding the Sirius intel, there is this ---> http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors
Thanks,
Paul |
Cpl
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Post Number: 756
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 05:55 pm: |
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Thank you, Paul. Much appreciated.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 757
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2015 - 09:39 pm: |
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If you experience difficulties when sharing Meier's writings on the truth about the Dalai Lama with people, who may then think you are really out there, this video may help by way of breaking the ice.
Presenting little known details on the Dalai Lama it is a useful look at religion, Buddhism, and the Dalai Lama, and reason and empiricism.
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/religion--spiritual-practice/the-truth-about-dalai-lama.html
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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