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    Blake_p Member Post Number: 313 Registered: 07-2012 |
Kula, Most,if not all,of these ridiculous incidents of people seeing the Virgin Mary in a cloud,or Jesus writing them a message in their breakfast cereal, are suffering from serious delusion and or schizophrenia. They have corrupted their own consciousness with belief,instead of logic,rationality,and provable truth. Billy has mentioned and written about this so extensively,I'm sure he does not concern himself with every nonsensical incident in the world,considering most of the world is delusional. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 125 Registered: 04-2013 |
Blake_P, Well said, all in this forum agree with you wholeheartedly, I’d presume. Gentle, Kula is very new to the forum. For myself, I like the way that you get directly to the point. Sincerely Kenneth | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 317 Registered: 07-2012 |
Kenneth, Thanks...I am pretty direct so nobody should take it any other way...I am very glad Kula made it here and welcome and encourage any posts as well,especially from new members. Lots to learn. | ||
Kula1962 New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2015 |
Yes, I am new to this forum. There are many things I am searching an answer for; Why Blessed Mother appears only before Catholics? So, we have Our Lady of Guadalupe, Lady of Fatima, Lourdes, etc. Why don’t we have, Our Lady of Washington D.C., Lady of Kremlin, Lady of Tel Aviv etc.? The mass psychology is a very strange thing. When I was a child, there was a rumor going through the town that a “black glove” was flying near the local bridge attacking people. We children were very scared of – nothing. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 04-2013 |
Kula, Your black glove story reminds me of movie called, "The Village"; it's all about control and getting people to do what a certain group needs. The Village is a 2004 American psychological thriller film, written, produced, and directed by M. Night Shyamalan, and starring Bryce Dallas Howard, Joaquin Phoenix, Adrien Brody, William Hurt and Sigourney Weaver. The film is about a village whose inhabitants live in fear of creatures inhabiting the woods beyond it. Like other Shyamalan films from the same time period, The Village has a twist ending. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Village_(2004_film) | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 280 Registered: 04-2006 |
Kula, In contact report 251 there is reference to the Giza folks or perhaps other egomaniac ET's creating visions and dreams in people to propagate the religious mindedness and therefore control and power over them. Also somewhere in the material, perhaps questions to Billy, I read that when someone whips themselves into a frenzy about something like wanting an answer to their prayers that the subconscious or some part of the human will finally give them or fabricate what they ask for with a voice or vision or something or other. Though it's hard to understand it, but many people have come to Billy in person trying to get their belief system validated! It's a human weakness that puts real truth into unreal cults, as it says in C.R.10 and our societies , religious or political are glad to foster as it keeps the masses under their spell and in fear, "opium of the masses". My wife is religious and cannot move off of her beliefs for fear of the punitive result from a jealous and sadistic god. I saw a picture of Jesus laughing the other day and it said as the caption- "I knew what you were going to ask before you did I just wanted you to beg!" If you have been involved in religion and are looking for the truth your'e in the right place and you have some deprograming to achieve, speaking from my own experience .... Peace, Matt | ||
Kula1962 New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2015 |
There is the reason why am I so “nosey” about Medjugorje apparitions. I am from former Yugoslavia. We had a devastating civil war 20 years ago that was dictated by religious hatred. Since my parents had mixed marriage, I could not split my DNA in a half in order to take one’s side. So, my entire family did the most reasonable thing they could – run as far as possible. We came to America. The life goes on, and I got dream job at LAX (Los Angeles International Airport). My dream job turned soon into a nightmare job after 911, and I realized that religious hatred was advancing in all directions. One did not need to be from Balkan to realize that. Jesus mom is still appearing in Medjugorje calling the entire world to peace and love. I would be willing to accept her messages of peace and love, if I did not read an article on the Internet. According to that article the six visionaries were collecting donations during the civil war to help ethnical cleansing in their region. Some may see this as market economy, but innocent civilians lost their lives. While, I was recently searching on the Internet scientific explanations for Medjugorje apparitions, I came across the name Billy Meier. Initially, I thought Mr. Meier was a Catholic priest, until I started reading his contact notes. What a wake up call! | ||
Zzz New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2014 |
In my read of the word "Allah" in all threads for that word, I see a lot of guessing as if "Allah" is "God" or "IHWH" or "King of Wisdom". Yes, I do realize, that a very large portion of Islam (at least 90%) think at least "God". However, the definition of the word is "That one who is above all else" as in "That one that contains all else". So, there cannot be any meaning infering "God", "Deity", or whatever term one can put into words. The best description I have come across so far is "Neither description nor not description at once!" It is unfortunate that Islam is viewed as a religion especially among the majority of it's so called followers. And this to such an extent that it has become regimented with self and state appointed "police" that make sure the people recite their prayer's regularly and observe all the festivities and rules. Islam is a way of life that makes it clear that "there is no compulsion in matters of faith". The Quran stresses logical thought including testing to understand the natural environment. There is also esoteric excercise practised by the Prophet himself - namely meditation - where in his case, he was able to travel in spirit form anywhere he wished to explore this endless "Creation" that includes this and all universes and dimensions. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 302 Registered: 07-2006 |
Zzz, The name 'Allah' was the name used for a Plejaren extraterrestrial (from Erra) with the name of 'Gospod'. He lived from 4-Jan-557v. - 6-Sep-673n. and was also known by the Plejaren as "der Rühmliche" or "the Laudable one" and was an Ischwisch (King of Wisdom). Gospod was the Plejaren contact person for the sixth prophet in the Nokodemion lineage on Earth, Mohammed (Muhammad/Muhammed) who lived from 19-Feb-571n. - 8-Jun-632n. (information from: Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte Block 11 - page 223) Hope this helps. Salome PatM | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 303 Registered: 07-2006 |
Zzz, See also Nokodemion Lineage at: https://www.creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Lineage-Genealogy-sec.pdf Salome PatM | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 921 Registered: 05-2008 |
Hi Pat .. love that lineage illustration you've put together: Have you considered incorporating the other Nokodemion subsequent personalities that Corey pulled out of the Nokodemion book? https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffigu.org%2Fshop%2Fb%25C3%25BCcher%2Fnokodemion-seine-folgepers%25C3%25B6nlichkeiten-und-die-siebenfache-prophetenreihe-auf-der-erde%3Flanguage%3Den&edit-text= 1) Socrates 470-399 BCE Greece 2) Aristotle 384-322 BCE Greece 3) Johann Georg Faust 1480-1541 4) Galileo 1564-1642 Italy Feb 15 - Jan 8 5) Mozart 1756-1791 Austria Jan 27 - Dec 5 6) Jakob Ludwig Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy 1809-1847 Germany Feb 3 - Nov 4 7) Grigori Jefimowitsch Rasputin 1869-1916 Russia Jan 21 - Dec 30 http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 180 Registered: 03-2008 |
PatM correct name is Gosped Davidmg | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2015 |
PatM, Thanks for doing that Nokodemion Lineage chart! | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 846 Registered: 12-2009 |
an article: Billy says God is a delusion right? A delusion is belief in something that is not real, and does not exist in accordance with the laws of reality. If there is enough interest, I will be doing a series of posts about "God-delusion", and this starter-post contains numerous summaries and a translation from Billy's book "God-delusion and God-Insanity", information which is currently unavailable to the English speaking world, as well as my personal thoughts and viewpoints on the matter. Billy writes in his book "God-delusion and God-Insanity" on page 16 (*A) that the Creation Universal-Consciousness contains 100% positive and 100% negative, where the possibility for evolution is. This means that the Universal Consciousness, and it's natural laws and recommendations are absolute neutral-positive equalised, and absolute balance of both energies, which equals equalisedness (Ausgeglichenheit) . This is the same process for the human being's evolution (see: "Arahat Athersata" page 141 verse 362) if only one pole (either positive or negative) is present, development of the spirit and the consciousness is not possible. (not + or - but +/- = equalisedness). This means, just like the Creation Universal Consciousness, if a human being strives for it, he/she can become a balance of both energies, and become equalised, and develop and evolve simply by being creational. You can't just know the positive side of life, you also have to know and understand the negative side of life. If you didn't ever experience unvirtue, unwisdom, unintellect, or unlogic as a person, you would never know what it is to experience virtue, wisdom, intellect, or logic at their fullest potential, and know what to strive for (Streben). And knowing both sides leads to neutral-positivity and equalisedness, as Billy stated in the MH "spiritual life in everday life" DVD, "everything has two sides". Billy writes in his book "God-delusion and God-Insanity" on page 24 that 3 core Athiest principles from Sigar von Brabant, are basically on the right track towards reality (*B): 1. the Christian creation-belief, should be a removal of gods, but is resp. a removal of the creation of nature by trimming and dilution of the creational-natural laws and recommendations. 2. the development of sciences, such as all of Physics, practice a method of Athiesm, and they recognise and explain that the development of the world, the living inner core natures, the universes and all in them, exist w/o help of a irrational Creator-God. 3. the development of the teachings from human-beings, with humanitary Athiesm is the assumption of a God is not compatible with the free self-realisation of the human-beings. Philosophies such as Positivimus and Neo-positivimus have argued that the reasons for the word of "God" are meaningless. On the same page, Billy also writes that a rational thought-world and a proof for a sound mental-block, also a sound consciousness is needed for sound thoughts and feelings and Psyche. Many non-believers are deep rationality, intellect, and logic-based beings, but many suffer anxiety and pangs of conscience and many indoctronate their children to religion out fear of God's punishment or human contempt that they cannot free themselves from. Billy writes on page 26 (*C) that unless the certainty of the God-deniers and those knowledgeable in the truth organize, and teach publicly their reality-knowledge, which would set-off a chain-reaction where the human-beings of Earth would attain a way of effective reality and truth. As long as there is no organization of God-deniers and those knowledgeable of the truth, and both parties do not fuse together as "bearers of rationality" (Vernunftträchtigen), there will be no beneficial influence on the irrational teachings of religion, their sects, ideologies, and philosophies that originate in God-delusion. Freeing yourself from the consciousness-enslavement of religion can release high values and virtues into your life as you develop and liberate yourself from the negative (-), then become positive (+), then becoming neutral-positive and equalised (+/-) . Common sense will tell you that the victims of religion know, and have experienced first-hand, all of the "Un" values and "Un" virtues found in Billy's symbols book. Indoctrinating children to religion, hinders and degresses their consciousness development. After all, slavery is slavery. The flip-side to that coin is, after you liberate yourself from religion, and as you begin to formulate high values and virtues in your life after studying the spiritual teaching, ponder the following translation (rough un-official translation MAY CONTAIN ERRORS [*D]): "Would each religion be a teaching of truth, would the truth be recognised that the Creation resp. the Universal-Consciousness from the modern sciences as a natural factor of natural evolution, would bring about with certainty, that which the human-beings of Earth would discard in their God-delusion. He would much more to his good and correct life-guidance, as well as strive for the feelings for others and love for the next ones, and devote with more deference and an ample love of all life, he would also be concerned with more honesty, virtues, peace, harmony, and true freedom. However the religions are hard-headed and wanting to retain their God-delusion, because through that, they rally the God-delusion-sick-ones, and can thoroughly exploit them." "Würde jede Religion eine Wahrheitslehre sein, dann würde die Wahrheit, dass die Schöpfung resp. das Universalbewusstsein von der modernen Wissenschaft als natürlicher Faktor einer natürlicher Evolution erkannt ist, mit Sicherheit dazu führen, dass der Mensch der Erde seinen Gotteswahn ablegen würde. Er würde sich viel mehr um seine gute und korrekte Lebensführung sowie um das Mitgefühl und die Nächstenliebe bemühen, mehr Ehrerbeitung und eine umfängliche Liebe allem Leben entgegenbringen, wie er auch mehr auf Ehrlichkeit, Tugenden, Frieden, Harmonie und wahre Freiheit bedacht wäre. Doch die Religionen sind stur und wollen ihren Gotteswahn behalten, weil sie dadurch Gotteswahnkranke um sich scharen und diese nach Strich und Faden asubeuten können." In keeping with the rules of the FIGU forums, that stipulate only a few translated sentences at a time, I recommended if you own the book, to read all of page 30 in the full original German context to iterate the points Billy was trying to make in this passage. If you do not own the book, or cannot read German, keep in mind that there are FIGU official translated "Goblet" verses (that the English forum world can, and probably already DID read) that contain how a tin-god is just a delusion rooted in the brain. This delusion has it's hold on 4/5 of Earth humanity, religious and sectarian human-beings of belief, that the concepts of reality and truth are foreign words. (*E) According to Christian Frehner in the archives, the problem is: Religious and sectarian belief may be transmitted/passed on from the parents to the child and is stored in the brain’s temporal lobes and the rear part of the parietal lobes [hinterer Scheitellappen?]. It then manifests itself as a form of schizophrenic illness. [420th contact report of May 24, 2006]) There is no all-knowing deity at the helm of a human-being's thoughts, thoughts are up to each human-being's responsibility, and thoughts are natural processes. That must be recognised, if thoughts are to be controlled. There is also no Creator-god, just the unpersonified, and casual, source of all life-force, the Creation Universal-Consciousness, responsible for creating all comets, stars, suns, moons, planets, human-beings, animal and plant life in each, and every galaxy and universe, through the natural evolution process. And it is the duty of all human-beings to evolve their consciousness over the course of many reincarnations, over the course of many millions of years, so their spirit-from can one day merge with Creation (the SEIN-Absolutum), and evolve it further. God is non-existent, and all his billions of followers, get down submissively on their knees and plead for help that can never come, and try to submissively avoid punishment from a non-existent God, so they don't go to a fictitious hell, and be burned for eternity by the flames of a fictitious devil. Prayer should only be directed at your consciousness, and Billy has said that hell is nothing more then a state of mind in your Psyche. Balance your Psyche, balance your thoughts and feelings, balance your life, balance your learning and living experience (Erleben), and be equalised. Love for the next ones, and all other life-forms, should be an all-encompassing feeling (provided you are not taken advantage of), then you will know consonance.  Salome Corey (*A) = summary of information found in "God-delusion and God-Insanity" page 16. Copyright FIGU/BEAM (*B) = summary of information found in "God-delusion and God-Insanity" page 24. Copyright FIGU/BEAM (*C) = summary of information found in "God-delusion and God-Insanity" page 26. Copyright FIGU/BEAM (*D) = English translation of God-delusion and God-Insanity" page 30, done by Corey. FIGU dictionary used as much as possible. Copyright FIGU/BEAM (*E) = summary of information found in "God-delusion and God-Insanity" page 153. Copyright FIGU/BEAM (note: the German word "Ehrerbeitung" which translates to "deference" included in [*D] is part of the 6th pillar of Wisdom.) Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 304 Registered: 07-2006 |
Bruce, found the info on page 43. Thanks for the pointer will add the info to the drawing. Davidmg, Contact 453 (14-Jul-2007) has the name spelled correctly as "Gospod". Where did you find your information? Salome PatM | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 181 Registered: 03-2008 |
Reply from Billy to Lepuniv maybe a typo from CF: I was searching for Allah at that time and found it . I do not have any contact blocks to reference elsewhere. Thanks Davidmg | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 02-2010 |
Once again, thanks Corey.... I look forward to visiting this forum because of the time and effort others place in offering to assist non-German speaking people. I do hope, however, someday, someone one will translate "God Delusion and God Insanity" to English. Salome MsMichelle | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 234 Registered: 04-2011 |
Well done, Corey. Salome Bill | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 182 Registered: 03-2008 |
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/God-delusion_and_God-delusion_Insanity Davidmg | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 307 Registered: 07-2006 |
Bruce, I have updated the Nokodemion Lineage - Genealogy drawing to include the additional information as suggested. The updated drawing can be found at the same link: https://www.creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Lineage-Genealogy-sec.pdf Salome, PatM | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 139 Registered: 04-2013 |
Patm, Bruce, Michael H, By any chance is this Genealogy chart available in a larger poster format that is easier to read? Kenneth | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 308 Registered: 07-2006 |
Kenneth, The PDF was made to print on 8.5"x14" (legal) or 216mm x 356mm paper at high resolution. You can take the pdf file to any copy/print place and have it printed at whatever size you like. The largest size I have previously had printed was 33"x44" poster paper. Salome, PatM | ||
Ekr Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 04-2014 |
Very nice. A few questions, is Eva and Bernadette considered wives to Billy, such as in polygamy which is approved in Plejaren marriage? When did Kalliope and Billy divorce? Is Mercedes a biological daughter of Billy? Thank you Just a reincarnated WW2 German soldier that's trying to spread the mission & survive in a cruel and harsh world. |
