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    Kenneth Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 04-2013 |
Patm, Perfect, thank you. Salome Kenneth | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 309 Registered: 07-2006 |
Ekr, The information regarding Billy's Family tree (Stammbaum) came from the book 'Nokodemion, seine Folgepersönlichkeiten und die siebenfache Prophetenreihe auf def Erde' ('Nokodemion, his successor-personalities and the seven-fold prophet-line on the Earth')(2013 edition) pages 40-41. Billy was divorced from Kalliope Zafiriou in 1997. Eva Bieri is Billy's Life-partner (not identified as wife). No relationship with Bernadette Brand was identified. Billy's family tree lists Selina Mercedes Bieri as "Gemeinsames Kind" (child together [with Eva Bieri]). Atlant Sokrates Bieri and Natan Binar Tadeus Brand are listed as "Kinder an Vaterstatt" (children in Father's stead/place) with the following paragraph following the family tree: Bis hierher führt der Stammbaum von 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier und seinen direkten Nachkommen sowie den beiden Ziehsöhnen, die er an Vaterstatt aufgenommen hat und die von ihm mit ebensoviel Liebe und Zuwendung aufgezogen wurden wie seine leiblichen Kinder. Up to here leads the family tree of 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier and his direct descendants as well as the two foster-sons, whom he has take up in father place and that by him were drawn up with just as much love and care as his physical children. The drawing has been updated once more to more accurately reflect this and can be found using the same link. https://www.creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Lineage-Genealogy-sec.pdf This information is based on my own translation and may contain mistakes. Hope it helps. Salome, PatM | ||
Matthewhurley Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2014 |
So Billy's spiritform's previous incarnation was Rasputin? He kept the beard :-) | ||
Ekr Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 04-2014 |
Patm, thank you very much Just a reincarnated WW2 German soldier that's trying to spread the mission & survive in a cruel and harsh world. | ||
Matthew Member Post Number: 124 Registered: 03-2011 |
Hi Patrick, Good job on the Lineage Genealogy PDF and thanks for your work and for sharing. Have you thought of sending the PDF to Christian Frehner to get it authorised, or, working with FIGU Schweiz to create an authorised version? I have a question: If Gabriel, son of Hilak, fathered Jmmanuel in 2v and also fathered Ezechiel, how did Ezechiel then have contact with Henoch II in the years 9308v-8942v? Please can you explain the time discrepancy? Salome, Matthew | ||
Damozart Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 06-2015 |
Hey Billy peace to you and all who know the "truth" and seek it. On this planet Creational-natural laws and directives are ignored or not acknowledged by religion, academia, financial institutions and governments. 30 million years to catch up with the Pleiadians spiritually is huge. So will it be a slow natural process of human modification? I'm sensing around me a distinct social awareness of the negative impulses that have maintained a master-slave life history for so long over the human species. After a human breaks away the shackles of falsities they've been fed for thousands of years I feel only then may we advert a collective destruction. We can win this!! Mozart+music=the human species is capable of creating such beauty for the world...lets try. | ||
Yetan11 New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2015 |
This is my first time I'm writing to Mr Billy Meier. Your Contact Note 487 spoke about Ptaah revealing the double agendas of the Dalai Lama and his Chushi Gangdruk movement and teaching about love and compassion simultaneously. It's sad to know on one hand he is teaching about love and compassion and on the other hand, he was financing violence and the Free Tibet movement just because he was the political head of Tibet. I agreed with the Plejarens speaking against the world religions and adoration of gods and saints which are leading human's in-fightings and the tendencies to divide. However, I wish to quote a fact. Initially, Buddha Sakyamuni taught about natural laws to end suffering. In the Kalama Sutra, he asked people to question him and to accept what he said if they make sense and has the effect to alleviate suffering. He did not ask people to adore him as god or adopt his teachings as a religion. Somehow unfortunately, there are certain people adoring Buddha as god and spread his teachings as a type of world religion today. Human has tendencies to associate and to attach on one hand and to divide and to avert on the other. Now, when the Plejaren's teachings, FIGU and you as its leader are revealed to the world at large at its 'infant stage', the whole thing is grounded as natural laws of Creation like Buddha once did. Wait many years later down the road when the Plejaren's teachings and FIGU movement have reached the 'maturity stage' of their development. It may be another matter then. If not carefully harnessed, they may be turned into another god- like and religion-like status of the world. You may be adored as the Prophet of the new era so as to be distinguished being different. It is a real possibility and anything can happen in the future. Then, one may be caught like the Dalai Lama who in one hand is teaching love but another is secretly financing division because one is tying up to one group fighting against another. It will be another sad episode of human existence then should it happen. | ||
Philoe58 New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2015 |
I hope Billy got this message, I want to know if the Baha'i Faith is a false religion ? or if it has been misinterpreted .... Regards, Liz | ||
Piyali Member Post Number: 120 Registered: 08-2012 |
Salome Liz, I have a friend who follows the Baha'i Faith. And here are a few quotes from one of their websites, which corresponds with what she had shared with me: "The Bahá’í Faith began with the mission entrusted by God to two Divine Messengers—the Báb and Bahá’u’lláh. Today, the distinctive unity of the Faith They founded stems from explicit instructions given by Bahá’u’lláh that have assured the continuity of guidance following His passing. This line of succession, referred to as the Covenant, went from Bahá’u’lláh to His Son ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, and then from ‘Abdu’l-Bahá to His grandson, Shoghi Effendi, and the Universal House of Justice, ordained by Bahá’u’lláh. A Bahá’í accepts the divine authority of the Báb and Bahá’u’lláh and of these appointed successors." "Let your vision be world embracing…” — Bahá’u’lláh "Throughout history, God has sent to humanity a series of divine Educators—known as Manifestations of God—whose teachings have provided the basis for the advancement of civilization. These Manifestations have included Abraham, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad. Bahá’u’lláh, the latest of these Messengers, explained that the religions of the world come from the same Source and are in essence successive chapters of one religion from God. Bahá'ís believe the crucial need facing humanity is to find a unifying vision of the future of society and of the nature and purpose of life. Such a vision unfolds in the writings of Bahá'u'lláh." And again: "Baha’u’llah’s Revelation affirms that the purpose of our lives is to know God and to attain His presence. Our true identity is our rational soul, whose free will and powers of understanding enable us to continually better ourselves and our society. Walking a path of service to God and to humanity gives life meaning and prepares us for the moment the soul separates from the body and continues on its eternal journey towards its Maker." http://www.bahai.org/ So in essence, like all religion, this too appears to be concocted by man. But ofcourse, it is for the believer to search for and recognize the truth, thus becoming knowledgeable. So I have not tried to contradict my friend, because she has too deep a "faith" in this new religion, for me to be able to shake it. So I remain her friend only and leave such discussions out of our conversation.  In trying to free himself or herself from a suffocating religion, the human being seems to be coming up with new religions. It is very interesting for me to observe that. I do not know of a single religion, that does not want to unify human beings in the name of peace and God, through their own named messenger. The Baha'i, like other religions, like to differentiate from other religions, yet they couldn't be more of the same, following some "divine order and purpose" with their own messengers, etc, and like all religions, they think theirs is the most liberal, peaceful and the best, and ofcourse they are tolerant of all other religions. What else is new? My friend said, all they have to do is sign a paper saying, "I am a Baha'i" and viola! You are a Baha'i! Their is no "force" in their conversions of other people, but they convert people nevertheless. My friend spoke about her faith to her daughter, deeply and emotionally enough that her daughter consented to sign that paper and became a Baha'i...now that is a sort of indoctrination, brainwashing, coercion, no matter how "lovingly", if you think about it..."there was no forcing, I just told her and she made up her mind on her own". Hmmm...it is very easy to indoctrinate people in many ways. Baha'i Faith is the new "kid" in the religious block, and the other established religions, especially Islam, are already bullying them and spreading terror among them...really sad. I too would like to know from Billy, but as far as I can see it, and from my own studies, religion is religion and has nothing to do with the truth I have come to comprehend and realize. When we come to know, apply and practice the truth, we see the difference. And the funny thing is, it happens on it's own if you are looking in the right direction. No one came to me and spoke to me about Billy and his writings. Like many, or dare I assume, like all of us here, I found it on my own, and made my own decision to find out more, coming to my own understanding. In this process, however, when I found out who else was studying, I asked the questions I needed to ask, but not before I had already made a conscious decision to follow it through. Only then I found the rest who studies and applies this same material. So please study the GoT, the Geisteslehre, all the books you can read written by Billy as the Spiritual Teaching is given in many of those books, compare it to any religion, to the Baha'i faith, and come to your own understanding of whether the religion in question is false or not. If Billy says, "It is False", would you just blindly believe him? Then there would be no difference between you and believer who believes blindly. Not suggesting that you do, I am trying to make a point. If you still have questions after you have come to your own conclusions, by all means ask Billy. He will clarify it for you if he can, but the whole purpose of the Meier material is to present to you an opportunity to think for yourself in the real sense of the term. Billy's words will only make sense to you, when you think for yourself. This sharing with you, is from my own experience. Have a great weekend! Salome with Love ~ Piyali | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 383 Registered: 12-2011 |
Philoe58 Liz All religions are false, should read on the internet how this one came to be. In saying that I do have friends who are of that faith and they are decent people. Also there are decent religious people who have no self control and have to cling to something or somebody. joe | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1076 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Piyali, I live in a lovely place that is predominantly populated by families and university students, faculty, etc., and I don't really fit in to either. I found, stumbled upon, a group of Baha'i people who meet once or more a month. I've ended up hanging out with them then, even playing them some of my music, reciting my songs, etc. I even said to one in a friendly manner, "I have no respect for your beliefs...and I hope you feel the same way about mine. I do, however, share many of the same values about family, community, love, the arts, etc. And I only care about he shared values with good people." I haven't even told them outright what I'm involved in...yet. | ||
Tetrahedron Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 06-2014 |
Yes, telling people about figu and what your involved in is a potent powder keg. As much as I like certain aspects and taste of various religions, the rest doesnt fall out well. | ||
Philoe58 New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2015 |
Hey, Thanks all for the reply! I have been raise in a Bahai family since a baby. By 15 I was suppose to sign a card to confirm i was in the religion, but i didn't, cause i knew their was more to that. However theirs some good in the bahai faith that why i asked the questions above. Piyali explanations make sense... However I will continue to find more information,has billy encourage you to find the truth. I am now learning German in other to read the book Goblet of Truth. Peace & Love. | ||
Damozart Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 06-2015 |
Could someone please give the pros and cons of revealing the truth via TV? Are the finances to dear to even contemplate an endeavour? Is the truth problematic in regard to probable lawsuits and defamatory accusations? I saw an Evangelical program tallying funds donated by believers that obviously were filtered off those who are weak, poor and disadvantaged. Sad. So why not an alternative? No propagating. Just words. Let the viewer use their own cognitive reasoning to pursue further knowledge. It was the early scribes and priest who used to thieir advantage the ability to read and write to falsify the truth. To expedite the truth why not let the masses visual the truth every week or day in stark isolation amongst the purveyors of lies? Mozart+music=The human species is capable of creating such beauty for the world........let's try. | ||
Tetrahedron Member Post Number: 63 Registered: 06-2014 |
We call it the internet | ||
Damozart Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 06-2015 |
Tdron Multimedia my dear friend should not be ignored. I asked what are the pros and cons of revealing the truth on TV. Michael Horn has used radio. Billy has written books and has spoken in film docus. Should the truth not be available via all media outlets? Jmmanuel spoke the truth in and around the proximity of priest who were falsifying scripture to the weak and poor. TV promotes the root of the lie that needs to be altered from within with words of truth. | ||
Philoe58 Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 07-2015 |
If the Baha'i religion is a scam? Who were these two person called the Bab and Bahaullah ? And did they really pass in all those misery? if yes why did it happen??? Just Curious!!!! | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 382 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day damozart A TV show done by figu folk would be a great idea The main problem would be finances as it's expensive A big % of the population only believe what they see on Tv If I win the lottery I will fund it eh eh, I want to start a school/retreat/health center I just need some luck :-) Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 394 Registered: 12-2011 |
Ilovebilly They tell me it has nothing to do with luck. It is a matter of sending out the right vibrations to the universe. Go for it and try it. joe | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 04-2015 |
Found this short clip about religion to be very funny and true, and thought I would share it - Religion VS Reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-D8Mf9DdQI | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 210 Registered: 04-2013 |
Both Bill and Hillary claim to be Christians; it's my understanding that this is only for show; apparently they have no interest in the church, which is a good thing. However, on the flip side, both of them are crooks. The following information was received from a very reliable source; I call him G-Man; a retired U.S. Federal Investigator. Regarding the Clinton's G-Man said: "These two criminals should’ve been arrested years ago. William The Impeached (censured for lying to Congress but, unfortunately, not removed from office) has been fooling around ever since high school when he learned that he is sterile thanks to having scarlet fever when he was younger. Obviously, this gave him the ticket to screw everything around him. Hillary was a heartbeat away from jail thanks to her lies while at the Rose Law Firm; she was also fired from the Watergate Council for lying. Both relinquished their law licenses before leaving Arkansas. They continue to operate above the law." My point is, the Clinton's may not have any use for religion unless it of benefit to them and for public show. Hillary as you know is running for U.S. president in 2016. So why do the good people keep electing criminals for the highest office in the land? We need someone that at least understands some of the Truths as B.E.A.M. has proclaimed in his Teaching. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1541 Registered: 07-2005 |
I don't know what's its like on main street of the US, Canada and New Zealand but here downunder people have a serious drug problem. I put this down to not just the miserable, purposeless, meaningless, pointless, distractful and lonely lives lead by people who have basically lost their way but also the fault lies with the clandestine secret drug program where the ecstacy tablets and what have you are purposefully pushed into society with no shortage of lackeys willing to do anything for cash This to purposefully undermine the Australian youth and society with a controlled chaos The purpose of course is Satanically driven. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1630 Registered: 02-2000 |
I'm posting this here because Political Correctness is becoming a sick Religion. Even Star Wars is now not safe from the PC Police. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O_VkP-ZlGI |
