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    Learnmore12 Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 05-2014 |
Ilovebilly, what in the world are you talking about? The things you say does not make any sense, at least to me, especially where you talk about supercharging our spirit ("the SS symbol is how to supercharge your warp core (spirit) more soon, its an old Lyrien way/tech", post #517). According to Billy, nothing or nobody can ever touch our spirit, let alone supercharge it. Where in the world are you getting this stuff from? I don't know about anybody else. All I can say is, if it does not come from Billy, I will have doubts about it. Please give references from where you are getting your information from. Thanks. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 231 Registered: 02-2010 |
Plus I read from BEAM material no one can avoid getting Colds even the P's get Colds.... MsMichelle | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 102 Registered: 10-2016 |
The unfortunate ones (the ones Billy calls "the living dead"): There is so much untruth to being an Earthling that will suffer from religious fabulations. First you are born to a family before your personality and consciousness-block were fully programmed for your new life's development by the overall-consciousness-block in the beyond, plus you could suffer from all sorts of softness, prone to addictions, and suffer from disorders, even if you were born into a "well structured family" because your planet is horrendously overpopulated. Next, because of your genetics, you have predispositions to age faster then you should, and predispositions to Gewalt and aggressive outbursts, and because your family is suffering from religious-delusional fabulations that are rooted in their brains and not the truthly reality, you have a genetic predisposition to suffer from consciousness enslaving forms of belief that are not centered in reality, and will lead you astray until you break the chains of the slavery of belief, and this belief will also be rooted in your brain, in the temporal lobes, as well as, the parietal lobes that will make it more difficult to break the chains, and escape the death grip of religion that will shrink your intellect, rationality, and logic down to next to nothing, atrophy your pineal gland, and you will lose the ability to think for yourself in all things, as well as, the ability to remain an individual, instead you will be like a slave to a non-existent "Creator-God", and you will be like a slave to you fellow human-beings who raise themselves up over your head as "representatives of God", so they can exploit you, and siphon off your goods and chattels, until you are left naked, and alone with nothing, not even the dignity you were born with, and for your entire lifetime your consciousness will not be watered by the precious water of truth, and because your consciousness only knows the fire of the untruth which burns badly, it (your consciousness) will not blossom (and bloom) with treasures of the consciousness such as love, knowledge, wisdom, equitableness, fairness,etc, and when it is your time to die, you will die alone, and afraid of death, because you are not taught the truth about reincarnation (being reborn). You suffer from the false promise of heaven, and the false threat of hell, which is nothing more then a fear-based/belief-based/threat-based system so you fear punishment to keep you in line, and you were taught the untruth that you only live once, and to procreate as many children as possible for there will be no consequences that are taught to you, so you, and others like you, spent their entire lives partaking (and perpetuating) in the horrendous overpopulation problems of the planet Earth.. The strong fortunate ones (ones who may study the spiritual teaching, the teaching of truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of life): Although you are born into a family before you were ready, this did not slow you down, you were ready for some learning from a young age on. Whenever you were told an untruth meant to turn you into a human-being bound by belief, by religion, school upbringing, a relative or relation, something deep inside yourself told you that there was something more (false) to the story then the authority was letting on. Religion never calmed the burning fire inside yourself for something lasting, such as truth, and religion never calmed you as much as making your own realizations about things. You enjoyed being the master of your own thoughts, and you tried to block out unnecessary negative energetical influences in your life, from authority figures, from churches, from the media and politics, from those whose only source of pleasure in life is money, and material possessions, any influence that would turn you into an "unthinking robot-zombie" just like they are because your individuality is very important to you, and you instinctively sense this individuality is founded on a very old sense of ethics that you cannot explain. You enjoy making up your own mind about things, and would "bounce", or "jump" from one world religion, to another, just to realize none of them were what you were looking for, so you immersed yourself in history. Somewhere along the way, from a source such as Michael Horn, or the internet, or a colleague or friend, you hear the name "UFO Billy Meier", and immerse yourself in the spiritual teaching, and never look back. You know your entire life you must search, until you find the truth, and here you are, studying the truth of all truths, and learning about the wisdom of all wisdom, the Creation. You spend the rest of your life standing against overpopulation, and other things of unright and the illogical, and you remain interested in scientific developments made by the scientific fields of research that can have peaceful applications. You always feel fortunate that you are no longer a member of a religion, but can freely study profound works of truth in your present lifetime for your evolutionary development, and (hopefully) your new personalities when you are reborn have some internal ties to the truth to keep them strong in the future times, and you can find your way to the future FIGU (source of truthly truth) all over again. ----- May the FIGU Swiss community survive the upcoming destructions successfully intact, so future generations can have access to teachers (and keepers) of the truthly truth, and have access to all the books Billy set down in writing, as the last of the line of 7. Salome/Corey Müske | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 05-2004 |
Corey, your post rings true with me, when I look at my life and how I came to find out about FIGU. But are these Billy's words or yours, not that it makes it less truthful if they were yours? As I said, I can relate completely to your post. Another thing... what are the upcoming destructions? I thought these were still just prophecies, not predictions. I find reading about the future of the world very disturbing, so I sometimes have to take a step back and try to forget about it all. But it seems we are getting close to the fulfillment of Henoch's prophecies. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 10-2016 |
Joseph, the first paragraph is a conglomeration of items I read directly in a Meier book. The second paragraph is things directly from my life, and the lives of other people I know involved in the Meier case. As for the future destructions, page LXI of the "Goblet of the Truth" states "And if you do not change to the better, good and best, all evil over the world will take a much worse form than it has done for decades and also does at present; and the coming events will be such as the world has never experienced up to the current time, nor lived, nor seen." Later on in the section, he writes about tall skyscrapers that will collapse, and fields that will no longer be able to bear a harvest, indications that things will get real bad in the future if we do not alter course (which is not presently occurring). Even in some bulletins, he writes that by 2050, our oceans will have been (over)fished completely empty, which will unfortunately eliminate the source of protein for billions. By changing for the good, Billy is referring to major (and rapid) changing of Earth humanities thoughts and feelings, as well as, the major (and rapid) changing of causes, so we could benefit from positive effects (which is generating an interaction [law of interaction]) by changing to the best: such as gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit (multinational peacekeeping troop), the places of fulfillment of guidelines (banishment for terrorists and criminals), and the worldwide birth-stop with 7 year birth-rate checks which are not occurring presently. Your correct in an essence when you say the destructions are only prophecies, and not set in stone, however the destructions I was referring to are from = overpopulation (which are pretty much assured because our planet is not choosing humane population reductions, and further making negative effects = such as altering the climate, and environmental destruction) cause and effect, not the Henoch prophecies, which are not set in stone, but however, can seem more like a reality with each passing day. What I was referring to = The longer we wait to lower our populations = more death and destruction will appear as a result of our illogicality. The longer we wait to materialize Billy's recommendations I listed = more war, terrorism, death, and destruction will appear = as a result of our illogicality. Unfortunately the way things work on this planet = we may have to suffer the consequences first = experience the death firsthand in major catastrophes = before any major positive changes are brought into being. * "Goblet of the Truth" page LXI/copyright FIGU-BEAM/corresponding original German = "Und wandelt ihr euch nicht zum Besseren, Guten und Besten, dann ergeben sich weltumfassend alle Übel sehr viel schlimmer, als diese seit Jahrzehnten und auch gegenwärtig in Erscheinung treten; und die kommenden Geschehen werden so sein, wie sie auf der Welt bis zur heutigen Zeit noch niemals erfahren, erlebt und gesehen worden sind." Salome/Corey Müske | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 104 Registered: 10-2016 |
Joseph, it took me a few years to get comfortable to read about the future of the world, now I'm really into it. I really desire to understand the world I will be reborn into. RE: upcoming destructions can be read about at the end of contact 669: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=VN0dkdlJdfc%3d&tabid=1405&portalid=0&mid=5602 "If however one considers, that in the following two hundred years - as the prophecies carry out- not only through wars and terrorism, but rather also as destruction of the climate and the environment and through the scarceness of food and water coming out of this, this will bring forth the terrestrial-human overpopulation between 250-350 million human beings as refugees, then the Earth, and it's human overpopulation and also nature and it's fauna and flora will go through very horrible times". = Billy Meier Jan 1, 2017 = (future destruction as prophecies play out = will last 200 years). Salome/Corey Müske | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 702 Registered: 12-2011 |
Corey Things are about to change for the good of mankind. Do not fear, Be happy. joe | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 149 Registered: 05-2004 |
Corey, thanks for your explanation. For me the Henoch Prophecies make for some really grim reading that leaves me hoping for a future time when humans can live a balanced and peaceful life together. As I recall, Henoch does mention such a time towards the end. I love your matter of fact attitude: "Unfortunately the way things work on this planet, we may have to suffer the consequences first, experience the death firsthand in major catastrophes, before any major positive changes are brought into being." I think that's probably the only realistic way of looking at it. The second paragraph you wrote outlined my journey almost word for word. It's interesting how so many of us have had similar experiences in our search for truth. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 105 Registered: 10-2016 |
Votan, thanks for the positive!  Salome/Corey Müske | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 165 Registered: 05-2004 |
I notice that since Brexit in June last year, the religious community has become all fired up, claiming that Britain leaving the EU is predicted in the Bible, specifically Daniel's prophecies, and that we're now in the end time. It's very interesting to listen to some of them explain current world circumstances, despite the Bible being distorted. They're all over YouTube. Personally, I don't see it, but I do wonder how much of Daniel's prophecies and visions have survived. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 166 Registered: 05-2004 |
Here's an excerpt from Daniel 2:44 "And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever." Even though the true interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream by Daniel has been corrupted, it is still easy to see what it means. In Daniel 2:34 it says: "Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces." The feet of the image is said to represent a divided Europe and, therefore, the European Union. At first I thought this was prophesying the coming Apophis in 2036, which will strike Europe. But I now think the stone represtents the Knowledge of Truth as disseminated by the prophets. "...and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms..." This sounds like what is happening now. The spiritual teaching (which I believe is the kingdom) is now copyrighted and preserved, and it can't be corrupted or distorted by others anymore, but shall be embraced by the world in the future. What do you think? | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 778 Registered: 10-2009 |
I think reading the bible is like reading any fiction novel where events can be construed however you want them to be. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 583 Registered: 04-2013 |
Joseph_emmanuel, :-) Understand where you are coming from; nonetheless, trying to make sense of the Bible related to current events and correlated to Billy’s Teaching will drive one crazy. Recommend that the bible be dropped all together, like a hot potato, as you now know that this is a “Book of Lies”. All that is really needed is Billy’s Teaching, related to world events. Sincerely Salome Kenneth | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 168 Registered: 05-2004 |
I know the Bible is distorted, but you can't tell me that they've got it all wrong. The way they link up the prophecies in the Bible to history and the present day is quite convincing. If you can spare an hour of your time watch this video and tell me what you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_R5iDaWv78&feature=youtu.be | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 584 Registered: 04-2013 |
Joseph_emmanuel my friend, You’re in a fork of the road of Truth and Knowledge; one path keeps you intrigued with the “Book of Lies” and the other path leads you to the “teaching of the spirit, the teaching of life, the teaching of truth and therefore the teaching of the truth of the laws of recommendations of the primal power of all existence, Creation! No verse in the book of lies will get you there. Nevertheless, the choice is yours. Sincerely Salome Kenneth | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 569 Registered: 04-2011 |
"The bible has noble poetry in it … and some good morals - and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies." Mark Twain | ||
Learnmore12 Member Post Number: 86 Registered: 05-2014 |
Joseph, Bible only has bits and pieces of truth hear and there, because it has been falsified to keep the human beings of this world into a bondage or control. I would rather take the 100% truth of the GOT rather than take bits and pieces of truth of the bible. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 172 Registered: 05-2004 |
You can't just shrug off sixteen years of Catholicism, but I hear you. And besides, I try reading it with a certain level of intuition and interpretation. I'm not at a crossroads. Just because something is a lie doesn't mean there's no truth in it. I like to keep an open mind. But no one and nothing other than myself has taught me how to think. Thanks for your comments. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 171 Registered: 05-2004 |
Has anyone ever seen this painting? It is by Aert de Gelder, painted in 1710, and it's called The Baptism of Christ.  I can't remember how I came upon it, but when I saw it, it strengthened my belief that Jmmanuel (or Jesus, as I had known him then) had extraterrestrial connections. In the Talmud of Jmmanuel it says: 30. When Jmmanuel had been baptized, he soon came out of the water of the Jordan, and behold, a metallic light fell from the sky and rushed over the Jordan. 31. Consequently they all fell on their faces and pressed them into the sand while a voice from the metallic light spoke: 32. “This is my beloved son with whom I am well pleased. He will be the king of truth, through which terrestrial humans shall rise as wise ones. I believe de Gelder read something in the Vatican archives that he wasn't meant to read. I believe the Vatican archives holds information about Jmmanuel that would shock the Christian community worldwide. I suspect in 1710 most people, as ignorant as they were and unable to read and write, wouldn't have known how to interpret this painting. If only people can look at it and realize how accurate a depiction it actually is. It hangs in The Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge in the UK. I went to see it some years ago and I couldn't understand how people just walked passed it without taking any notice of it. I wanted to stop them and say "Look! Just bloody look!" | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 176 Registered: 05-2004 |
FIRST MAN: What religion do you follow? SECOND MAN: I have no religious affiliation. FIRST MAN: You're an atheist? SECOND MAN: No. I am not an atheist. FIRST MAN: Ah! An agnostic. They are the worst kind, for they cannot make up their minds. SECOND MAN: I am not an agnostic either. FIRST MAN: Don't tell me you're one of those New Agers who goes around saying he is spiritual, but doesn't believe in God. SECOND MAN: I am none of these things. I am just a man who thinks for himself. FIRST MAN: That is all very well, but if you don't believe in God and you're not agnostic, then you must be an atheist. SECOND MAN: There is a fourth way for which you have failed to account. FIRST MAN: I'm confused. What way is that. SECOND MAN: It is the way of the one who doesn't accept the idea of god. FIRST MAN: But that makes you an atheist. SECOND MAN: I would argue that an atheist is someone with religious issues and, for this reason, still has some religious affiliation. I, on the other hand, have no religious issues. FIRST MAN: That still makes you an atheist. SECOND MAN: NO! You see, it is not that I don't believe in God, it is just that I don't accept it as a valid argument. It is an idea based on false knowledge and, therefore, it is invalid. It doesn't enter the arena of debate. FIRST MAN: You are an atheist. And what's more, you are a true atheist. SECOND MAN: Show me an atheist and I will show you a religious man. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 785 Registered: 10-2009 |
First woman: Look at those crazy men arguing over religion. Second woman: Yes that's so last century. Lets go study the spiritual teaching before they kill each other. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 570 Registered: 04-2011 |
Interesting painting, Joseph. Aert de Gelder was one of Rembrandt’s most outstanding students. He came from a wealthy family and did not need to sell his paintings. His studio was full of old weapons and antiques – he used to dress up dummies and create the scenes for his paintings, his favourite topics being biblical settings. There is little info about his life on the net but there are some rumours that because of his talent he may have had access to the Vatican’s secret knowledge. What is a fact, though, is, that similar to our MSMs' only reporting what favours their interests, this thought provoking painting is quietly tucked away in a Cambridge museum and not known to most people / Christians. Maybe the pope is much more aware about the true identity of Jmmanuel then he lets on or is able to let on: The Plejaren confirmed to Billy that the pope reads his CRs which may explain the present pope’s awareness of the danger of our planet’s overpopulation *) and that mere “handouts" are not truly helping at all(he argues that the aid of third world countries should dep. on certain conditions} We may reject the misleading doctrines of religions but we do not hate the humans proclaiming them. On self reflection, following the insight from reading the CRs: all religions were wilfully forced upon mankind. And our evolution, it is based on a mind set of equal respect for all beings. Salome, Bill *) Conference To Be Held At The Vatican: Up to 49 % of Species Face Extinction https://www.thereporter.com.au/news/40-worlds-species-facing-destruction/3148366/ UN projections estimate earth's population will soar from 7.4 billion to 11.2 billion by next century, with the biggest growth in Africa. “You do not want almost 12 billion living unsustainably on Earth by the end of the century - with the result that civilization will collapse and there are only a few hundred survivors." The Vatican Conference includes the controversial Stamford University professor, Paul Erlich (population studies), who “.. claims birth control should be more widely used to help keep numbers down, and in response to his involvement in the event a petition has been set up calling on the pope to withdraw his permission to speak …the pope has not changed his mind, however…” So it may well be that the pope – as the CRs confirm - has read Billy’s comments re. overpopulation and agrees with him – apart from using contraceptives which he, in acc. with church directives, opposes / must oppose: http://time.com/3673991/pope-francis-contraception-philippines-asia-like-rabbits/ (He advocated as well that aid to third world countries should depend on certain conditions ) | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 180 Registered: 05-2004 |
Tat_tvam_asi I think you are right. I think the pope, or at least some of the Vatican officials, are aware of the true identity of Jmmanuel. I think they have been for centuries. Pope Leo X, who lived from 1475 – 1521, is quoted as having said: "How well we know what a profitable superstitioon this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors." The painting above is actually on display for public viewing in the Cambridge museum. But it isn't very big and it's quite high up. It isn't eye level. You have to look up to see it. |
