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    Patm Member Post Number: 524 Registered: 07-2006 |
Carolyn, Billy addressed a question similar to your concerns re: Satan/satanism in Questions to Billy - Answered. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/11578.html?1295814789#POST53705 Billy's Answer: "Something like an "universal evil" does not exist, but there exists an energy block around the planet that consists of the religious delusion and nonsense, and other negative thoughts emanated by the human beings who are thinking along such lines. And the people who are living and held in bondage by the belief systems are constantly influenced by that negative block of energy, like in a vicious circle. Entities like devil, satan, demons etc. are nothing real, but without exception just figments of religious delusion and imagination etc. It is said that breaking that cycle will probably begin in about 800 years from now on a larger scale. People then will start to occupy themselves with the realization that there is truth. But until the broad masses succeed in profoundly thinking about the truth, much more time will pass." - Billy This is one of the primary reasons behind the Peace Meditation. from Questions to Billy - answered: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12258.html?1340597237#POST60968 Question: Dear Billy and Christian, could you explain the way that a human being participating in the Peace Meditation is changing the world by sitting there and meditating? Billy's Answer: The huge negative energy block that has been, and is, fed by the religious and sectarian belief systems (thoughts), will be "weakened". The vibrations of the thoughts emanated by performing the peace meditation are weakening the negative block in the sense that there is a neutralizing effect. The thoughts (= electro-magnetic vibrations/waves) are sent out through the mental-block and are "displacing" the religious etc. energy block. And since there are several thousand-million Plejaren human beings who are assisting us by also doing the peace medition, there is is a noticeable effect here on Earth. The effect is working via the sub-consciousness. --- re: "evil reptilian aliens" from Questions to Billy -Answered: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/5659.html?1138812444#POST17000 Question: The reptilians have reigned for hundred of millions of years on this planet and I suspect that they evolved an intelligent line. My suspicions are based on some histories from peoples that affirm to saw humanoids with reptilian appareance. I suspect that there are some very anvanced civilizations of reptilians, or underground bases here on earth and that they have advanced space technology. What have to say billy or you about this matter? Billy's Answer Of course there exist reptilian-like beings in the Universe. However, they are not here on Earth. And those “underground bases” are an “invention”. (Note by moderator CF: Billy once had a visit by an amphibian-like woman, but she (Asina) will not return to Earth. Hope this helps... Salome, PatM | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 776 Registered: 04-2013 |
Satan, and everything to do with Satanism is just the opposite of the various Christian religions; in other words, it’s just another reason for people to not step outside religion; otherwise, who will protect us. The Catholic Church is widely known for excursions as well as some other voodoo practices in the U.S. southern states, South American and maybe Africa. This may have also been part of the original Bafath impulses associated with religions of various kinds. Satanism is more of a carnal religion itself with many variations. Heaven forbid, a vulnerable god would allow human beings to think for themselves. IMO; this is just another reason or motivation to hang onto some kind of religion … to prevent folks from finding the truth. Kenneth | ||
Tyler Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 03-2017 |
Well you might be right, actually. I actually can't say one way or the other because I haven't studied anything of that nature. When I see the influence of the religions, I have to conclude that the most evil traces back to them, because even the negative Ausartungen found in depraved sexual conduct results from their positively ausgeartet attitudes. I can't say that I'm exactly keen to get myself up to date on that scoop, either, because in my opinion, it is wiser to simply use our heads to fathom the truth and gradually work up our strength to combat it, meanwhile seeking out monsters can lead to getting swallowed up in their black curse - where you then have written, that it will "shatter even what little faith you may have had of your fellow human beings". But have you not forgotten about the good humans, my friend? | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 460 Registered: 04-2015 |
Many of the top elites of the world such as leaders, central bankers and so on are satanists that actually believe in the devil. I think they are responsible for the Western suicidal inflow of fake refugees designed to cause chaos, take away our rights and bio chip everyone to empower themselves more. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 356 Registered: 10-2016 |
One more thing 2.0, GOT 3:49 has some good ideas about not raising your children up in religion (my viewpoint = religion = handiwork of the Bafath. Raise the children up in real positive [good] Earth-values instead such as honour, honesty, equitableness, deference for the Creation, respect for society, deference for the planet Earth and all peoples, etc.).~ Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 337 Registered: 05-2004 |
I don't think religions were created to prevent people from learning about the truth. I think those in authority are just as ignorant of the truth as those who bow to them. Of course, religions prevent one from thinking for oneself, but not out of fear of discovering the truth, but rather out of fear of a select few losing influence over the masses. Religions were created to control people, to keep order in enslavement. No religious person is aware that a truth exists known as Creation. As I see it, the first thing any individual must do before he is able to renounce religion is to stop looking to other individuals for answers, to stop raising them above himself, because until he does this he will move from one false way of thinking to another, like the Christian who turns to New Age thought. And though for a time he may continue to think falsely, as we all know it is only by searching within himself that he will come to the truth: that allusive inner nature that is reflected in Creation. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1803 Registered: 07-2005 |
Joseph if you've read CN 215, 251 and others you will realise that basically religion was created to enslave mankind, subjugate them, kill all of them off, hold bondage and control over their lives and to offset one religion against another so that mankind would not be enslaved by one religion. So religion is a wonderful thing in certain contex and a marvelous device to save humanity yet on a another it acts as a device for his destruction wow hows that for a mass contradiction. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 799 Registered: 04-2013 |
Newinitiation, Religious “Mass contradiction”? Nonetheless you’re correct; being raised in a somewhat strict Lutheran family, I always had the intuition or awareness that something was not correct. Consequently, that lead to investigating many other religions to find the answer, which was never found; but what was found, every major religion insisted that theirs was the correct one and often put the others down. What this contradiction did for most of these folks was to enslave them even deeper into their erroneous beliefs. In say that, being raised in a SOMEWHAT strict Lutheran religion, as I recall, my Father would not allow religious prayer at the table. My Mother was religiously enslaved, my Father did not believe in an all-encompassing god due to what he witnessed during WW-2. He conveyed to me, “how could there possibly be a god that would allow this carnage?” | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 417 Registered: 02-2010 |
Newinitiation, I'm confused about : So religion is a wonderful thing in certain contex and a marvelous device to save humanity yet on a another it acts as a device for his destruction wow hows that for a mass contradiction. Huh? MsMichelle | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1804 Registered: 07-2005 |
I totally and quite unequivocally have to agree with what you said there Kenneth. Most of my family members are catholic and I was forced to go to church every Sunday so I kinda understand at least how this aspect of your life played out. Funny hey how self righteous all these religious people are that somehow their God is the only God and their truth is the only truth but all else is erroneous without looking at themselves in the mirror. The most excruciating part for me about going to the catholic church every Sunday was the kneeling, standing, sitting down, singing and then kneeling , standing and then kneeling again aspect of the whole boring process and frankly I didn't quite figure out who the dead person or some super duper invisible entity thay I was supposed to be praying to except looking at the bloodied figure on the cross made out of ceramic behind the altar. I hated it. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1805 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Msmichelle Yeah it kinda sounds off doesn't it at first but if you've read all the CN available you will definitely understand where I am coming from. I'll give you a clue and say that it definitely has to do with Mohammad and the Plejaren and the intention of creating the religion Islam. Cheers Matt lee | ||
Andrew_hua Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2013 |
Msmichelle, It's important to make the distinction between 'religion' and 'relegeon' as outlined by FIGU. Indeed, it can seem to be a fine line to draw between the two, but you'll get a feel for it by searching yourself for a reasonable explanation as to how the two are different. If you follow this link, you'll have a place to start for distinguishing between 'relegeon' and 'religion'. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 398 Registered: 05-2004 |
Andrew_hua, What is the origin of the word relegeon? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the internet. It is only referenced by FIGU and the Future of Mankind. Is it of Plejaren origin? It's like a made-up word invented specifically to offer an opposite outlook to religion. If relegeon is not of human origin, in that it doesn't exist in any language known to humans, then why should we adopt it? I know it is used in the original German translations, spelled exactly the same way, but again I can't find any reference to this on the internet. The word doesn't exist, except here, which isn't to argue that there's no such thing as relegeon. There just doesn't seem to be such a word in any of the human languages. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 420 Registered: 02-2010 |
Hey Andrew, nice to see your "name" in the house(forum). It's been awhile. Yes, I know there's a distinction, however, When we discuss "religion", we must make it clear the differences. In the future, when others read these posts, they must know "religion" is illogical, while "relegeon" is acceptable, possibly not exactly logical. Hope that makes sense. MsMichelle | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 721 Registered: 04-2011 |
Ptaah (CR 133:76) “In general, it seems to be that with the Earth people, they need mandatory leadership and determination from the outside, which is incomprehensible to us.” Ptaah’s insights in CR 133 *) – they tell us how deep our human roots “to polarize” are, to either submit to slavery or fall for arrogance and the thought “I am better”. They not only explain the bullying in world politics throughout the ages. Arrogance even overcame Billy’s early followers causing Ptaah to tell Billy “…they abused this freedom and became more vicious and selfish, more arrogant and egotistical, and more power-driven than the members of the religions and sects” of our world… arriving at a point that - instead of teaching the Earth people (out of their religious beliefs) “they must now be taught by the unknowing Earth people”. We mentioned to teach the Spirit Teaching with "empathy" - accepting the world around us in oneness, with a "compassionate heart": It will balance our mind ("neutral-positive thoughts") and protect us from pride and fear. Salome, Bill *) http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_133 | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 851 Registered: 08-2010 |
Relegeon is the Spiritual Teaching. Also, "religion" is not the problem ...the "problem" with religion is the unlogic contained in the various religions, their dogmas, doctrines and claims. Their fallacies, contradictions and distortions of actual truths. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Andrew_hua Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2013 |
Joseph, "Relegeon" could be an extinct word the origins of which are perhaps beyond what we by ourselves are able to trace today. To be honest I have no idea about its roots. To me, having relegeon in one's life is just about correctly adopting the spiritual teaching as a guide to life. This is just my impression of the word, I can't claim to know much more. Msmichelle, Yes, I drop off the radar every now and then  It seems I've jumped into this discussion without knowing where people stand - I didn't mean to suggest that you're being ignorant, I was just trying to help you find clarification, but I suppose you are as aware as you can be given the information that's available. | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 400 Registered: 05-2004 |
I'm inclined to agree with Eddie in that religion itself is not the problem. It is the distorted knowledge, the false teachings and lies it indoctrinates that is the problem. In Contact Report 32 it says: Religion can't exist without relegeon, just as relegeon can't exist without religion. I don't know that I can accept the word relegeon as any kind of word, regardless of its meaning. It sounds too much like religion and for that reason I can't take it seriously. But that isn't important. What is important is that our idea of religion is revolutionised and embraces the spirit teaching. Until that happens the spirit teaching can't expect to flourish. | ||
Tyler Member Post Number: 181 Registered: 03-2017 |
I have a theory that the term "relegeon" has to do with the term "legion", which in ancient Greece was also allegedly spelled phonetically as 'legeon'. So while religion appears to mean moving toward being small and bantam in relation to the greater mass of an organisation, relegeon appears to me to mean taking up a standing independence in order to be come part of an "invisible legion" of other like-minded free community members. In my signature, I hope it's OK to leave a song that always reminds me of what I think "relegeon" is, because even though it is all chip-tuney, the song is, to me, just so cheerful that when I hear it, then if I turn my thinking onto all of our actual existence in this world and in these dark times, then even if we do not get along all so well today, I cannot help but feel so pumped up and excited for when our kind are working together in so free and grand of a community. The untruth will have no chance against us!  We will be just like the Shining Force from my favourite video game!! Shining Force! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enxyTeZ_i-c | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 803 Registered: 04-2013 |
Tyler, Your "theory that the term "relegeon" has to do with the term "legion"..." Very interesting theory, will have to check into this. Kenneth | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2017 |
In the newly released English translation of Decalogue Dodecalogue in the word explanations, on page 260 we read: relegeon: (Lat.) = the joining together again, the joining together again into the rightness. religion: (Lat.) = the back-connecting or backward-connecting. At Andrew_hua's link, above, in his post #78 we find: Relegeon is the factor leading back toward the Creative Truth, toward the Ur-Truth of all Creative growth. Expressed in a religious sense, religion implies a reverse-bond to a god, respectively a creator, within the constraints of religions, to whom man must subordinate himself. Andrew Grimshaw - The Silent Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 805 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hoota_thunk, Excellent catch regarding relegeon versus religion. This resolves a lot of questions. Relegeon: (Lat.) = the joining together again, the joining together again into the rightness. Religion: (Lat.) = the back-connecting or backward-connecting. "Relegeon is the factor leading back toward the Creative Truth, toward the Ur-Truth of all Creative growth." "... religion implies a reverse-bond to a god, respectively a creator, within the constraints of religions, to whom man must subordinate himself." Kenneth | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1813 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Andrew Hoota thunk???????? Or thank Hooters Matt lee |
