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    Kenneth Member Post Number: 817 Registered: 04-2013 |
Tyler, Good input, we are on the same page. I have ways of blocking out any religious sermons etc. and focus on the Peace Meditation. Kenneth | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 07-2017 |
Christmas to me is the continuation of the murderous cult of lies and the continuation of the destruction of the only known life supporting planet we can travel to. Does anyone know Santa's bank account details, I am thinking of setting up a GoFundMe to raise the necessary funds for his bribe into heaven? Andrew Grimshaw - The Silent Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 495 Registered: 04-2015 |
Kenneth, about a couple of months ago my mother asked me to go with her to a Sunday church mass (Catholic) because she was unable to drive there for that day. I haven't been to church for decades and when I was in there I thought about the negative vibrations in churches we learned in the Meier material. I tried to see if I can feel anything but to be truthful I didn't feel anything different. The thought of watching all the deluded people around me often crossed my mind however. | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 297 Registered: 04-2006 |
I just attended a funeral for my cousins husband who was a farmer out in his field. It was a beautiful setting ruined only by the religious dogma that his family and the preachers spewed out. I’ve thought on this, that is my own funeral, and I am considering prearranging most of what will be said. Because if you let the family bumble through it you will probably end up with some preacher high jacking the whole thing and everything being spoken doesn’t represent what the deceased thought about things or valued as truth. Maybe as a requirement of my will for possessions to be distributed that certain documents must be read out loud with great detail! | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 760 Registered: 04-2011 |
Unravelling Some Of Our Christmas Traditions Generally speaking, the central theme underlying the history of this season, in many cultures, is the “winter solstice” (in the northern hemisphere: Dec. 21 *): In ancient times, people revered the sun as a god, rather than knowing it as the centre of our solar system. And the period from late autumn to late December frightened them: The Sun retreated more and more. So they felt strongly, if they do not entice it, it may “stay away” for good. Thus, they conducted great ceremonies to re-awaken nature, offering sacrifices, praying to their Sun God to come back. In their belief – their prayers worked very well – each year. "Dec 25" - “Ave Mithras, Sol Invicti” It would be too lengthy to describe the history of the Vedic – Zoroastrianism – Greek – Roman god Mithras – save that, in Rome, he was born - you guessed it: on Dec. 25 **) – as the “unconquerable sun”. Emperor Constantine may have made Christianity the state religion of his Empire but he was baptised only on his death bed. Indeed, he he was a lifelong affiliate of Mithraism – expressed e.g. on the coins of his reign and a massive column in “Costantino polis” which shows him all wrapped up in Mithraism-symbols. The Mithras cult was very popular, especially among Roman soldiers. Thus, like Constantine, many people were used to embrace two different religions. So as to prevent early Christians from having to celebrate the birthday of Mithras on a separate day, Christian leaders made Dec25 the birthday of J.(whose real date of birth was not known to them). “Virgin Birth” In Egypt the great saviour god, Horus (god of the sky – rising /setting sun) was born around the winter solstice. Similar to our “Madonna with Child” the Egyptians placed the figure of a baby-Horus in a manger with Isis, his virgin mother, placed next to him (Ptolemy was (then) told that this was an ancient Egyptian custom) In accord with ancient Syrian customs Astarte, the heavenly virgin, would give birth to her son on the day of the winter solstice. "Carnival-Like Partying and Gift Giving" (Saturnalia) The festivals in honour of Saturn (Dec 17-23) were not only a period of Mardi Gras like madness (all business was suspended, mock king, officers (masters) serve their soldiers (slaves) etc.). It started with a religious ceremony and a public banquet followed by private gift-giving - esp. toys to children... ------------------------------------------------- *) In the calendar proposed by J. Caesar (46 BCE) for the Roman Empire (“Julian Calendar”) the winter solstice was on Dec. 25. As this calendar had to be adjusted (via leap years) too often it was (between 1582 to 1927) replaced by our present calendar (winter solstice = 21 Dec). But the date for the birth of Jmmanuel was kept as December 25. **) Emperor Marc Aurelian promoted this day as the birthday of the sun god because from this (“Julian”) calendar day on "the sun (god) started to grow” (=the daytime was starting to increase). In pre-Roman Greece the sun god Apollo was born on this day. | ||
Tyler Member Post Number: 201 Registered: 03-2017 |
The Goblet warns about "getting into the same waters as the believers", which I take to mean joining them in their worship and submissiveness. But by taking up an internal stance against that while in the midst of the church activities, I've also blocked myself from joining the others in their mode of worshipping, mainly by just remaining vigilant and keeping Creation in my mind. It is a risk, though, I feel that much is certain. I pick up things from others without meaning to, and so I estimate that there's no way to escape the fine-fluidal forces going on in the chirch or in any location really. But by gathering up myself in a consciousness-based manner, and remaining attentive and vigilant for the creational sense of life .. there is a protective power in that, somehow. What will you do if your guard is not perfect though? Do you have a way to straighten your inner world out again? | ||
Tyler Member Post Number: 202 Registered: 03-2017 |
Hugo, you're probably looking in the wrong place, my friend. It's not the negative vibrations you should try to notice first, it's your own inner feelings. Our sixth / seventh senses are what inform us about the kind of fine-fluidal force is active in a location, and if your seventh sense does not appear active yet and you cannot yet put a name onto the swinging waves that emanate from things, in my novice opinion you ought to pay attention to your sixth sense instead - your automatic reactions of comfort or unease - which can at least inform you primarily if, basically soeaking, the fine-fluidal deposits are positive or negative. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 496 Registered: 04-2015 |
Tyler, you may be right. I don't know. I thought I was not as logical (evolved) enough in my thinking to not feel anything. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 761 Registered: 04-2011 |
“Lest we forget … “ The following should honour those who – by standing up for their religious idea per se – i.e. for “peace on Earth and goodwill among men”– displayed a humanity that shall never be forgotten. World War I is, for good reason, remembered as one of the worst wars fought in human history, killing millions of soldiers and civilians. But for one night some soldiers laid down their weapons, left their trenches, shook hands, played a game of soccer and exchanged souvenirs with the “enemy”. It was Christmas 1914. (Letters of British soldiers) "All this talk of hate, all this firing at each other that has raged since the beginning of the war, quelled and stayed by the magic of Christmas. It is a great hope for future peace when two great nations hating each other as foes have seldom hate, should on Christmas day and for all that the word implies, lay down their arms, exchange smokes and wish each other happiness.” “The Germans are distinctly bored with the war…In fact one of them wanted to know what on earth we were doing here fighting each other" Acc. to an English soldier the Germans did not want to leave: ““The beggars simply disregard all our warnings to get down from off their parapet, so things are at a deadlock. We can’t shoot them in cold blood…” When the Christmas bells sounded in the villages behind the lines in 1915 French and Germans soldiers in 1915 declared a similar truce. Yes, their “fraternisation with the enemy” was not wanted and the leaders had to re-start hostilities under the threat of court martial. But does it not show that wars would not happen as much or were quicker finished if the common people / common soldiers had a say? Today more and more military leaders warn of the bellicosity in our world, that our world is on the brink of war. No, there are no reports of the common people. Lest we forget. Salome, Bill | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 416 Registered: 05-2004 |
Having watched Le Jeune Karl Marx, I come here and read these words: "But does it not show that wars would not happen as much or were quicker finished if the common people / common soldiers had a say?" There's a message there, I think. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 863 Registered: 08-2010 |
Tat_tvam_asi Excellent point well made Bill. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 819 Registered: 04-2013 |
Regarding “Religion/Relegeon as discussed in FIGU material”, and to pick up from the blog of December 21, 2017 (No. 816). Upon attending the non-denominational church with my immediate family, some interesting occurrences transpired before, during and after the ecclesiastical service. Proper meditation before the service was performed and essential from my point of view; this appeared to help immeasurably; in my mind, the visualization of a resilient aura shield encompassed me which maybe helped more psychologically than anything else? Knowing the truth regarding the “Teaching of the spirit, the teaching of life, the teaching of truth of the laws and recommendations of the primal power of all existence, Creation”, was another critical constituent. This religious service was non-denominational, which means it was founded by an individual pastor, consequently, little affiliation with historic denominations, beliefs and dogmas, which of course was to my advantage. Nonetheless, it was critical to know the truth regarding the “Goblet of the Truth”; it was easy to identify the untruths. When a sermon did start, performing the Peace Meditation to myself was very helpful. Being sensitive to Fluidalenergies, very little was encountered. Not joining them in the god/Jesus worship and focusing on the Teaching was very advantageous. In conclusion, from what I could tell, these were all good folks, their just lost in the Bafath (Giza Intelligence) religious nonsense, this was not the time or place to correct anyone. My immediate family knew where I was coming from in a spiritual sense; leading by example was a positive experience; staying neutral-positive was also important. When all said and done, I felt much stronger in the Teaching, knowledge and wisdom of Creation. Sincerely Kenneth Salome | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 07-2017 |
Very nice effects you caused there, Kenneth. Now I must say that I actually agree with all religions and that they are all right, when they dogmatically say that all other religions are wrong!  Andrew Grimshaw - The Silent Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 437 Registered: 02-2010 |
In my life, I'm constantly encountering "religious" individuals on the streets, and when they are speaking to me about their "faith" or lack thereof, I just remain open, sometimes I nod, smile, but underneath, I'm observing and thinking about "their" situations, circumstances. IMO, Most, have been Traumatize in some way, shape or form. They are "kicking and screaming" to be heard, and use "religion" as an "assumed" connection to the rest of society. MsMichelle | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 864 Registered: 08-2010 |
Religious people mistake religiosity for spirituality. This is understandable. They do mean well and are in a belief they are doing the right thing. They simply don't realize they are interacting with their own imagination. But overall, they are good people and generally do good. I don't have any issues with hanging out with them or having discussions with them. I can walk into any religious place of worship and carry on as I always do in my own skin. I don't get my psyche all disturbed with my own imagination of disharmony, evil vibrations or any other imaginings. It's just a human being, it's just a building, it's just a place, it's just someone with a belief and their interaction with their own imagination. I avoid discussions from the teaching of the truth. I stick to discussions from the teaching of the life and the teaching of the spirit... never get any disagreements; matter of fact, the teaching of the spirit and the teaching of the life is well accepted in religious places by religious people. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 202 Registered: 01-2011 |
Dearest MsMichelle, A wise choice indeed... very well done! And to everyone... a "Better and safer New Year"! With a Clear Mind, Heart and Spirit Form that is so much closer to our final goal with good perspective based on the teachings of Nokodemion for us all  Love and peace to you all! May we never waver and to always be steadfast in the truth of creation. Mat bronzedesk And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1830 Registered: 07-2005 |
Good observation Michelle. I too have noticed the desperate yearning of people for genuine connection with others yet like a lost cub on the beach within the sea of other sealions crying for its mum rejection is all they'll get because frankly they have essentially rejected themselves. Whether especially through the avenues of various religions, sects, cults and faiths or criminal activities and gangs or association with a secret societies and clubs or sporting activities and clubs or online community or charitable organisation or movements the human yearning to belong, to be accepted, to be part of something greater than themselves and just to feel the deeper existential connection with fellow man/women prompts them to search, seek and to explore many avenues to find that which they will eventually end up "but I still haven't found what I am looking for" Religion being the drug or the opiate of the masses is the easiest avenues for confused people to give themselves the illusion of that connection because seeing as it takes two to tango likeminded confusee (if there is such a word) can facilitate the confused into that matrix of psychological co dependency 'if they just believe'. The natural creational part of the human being, in this case, to be one with everything is bastardized, exploited, dirtied and sullied by religion and the religious turning in its wake everyone and everything into the lowest forms of itself who are lost, confused, strayed, disconnected, dehumanised, emptied and despirited. It is said 'practise makes perfect', 'be careful what you wish for', 'what the human thinks he becomes' etc then does not the weak minded, the meek and the submissives through religion become so expert through practise, repetition and study better at losing touch with their Creational spiritual selves via religious phantasmogoric nonsense and fiction or as Arahat Athersata put it 'into the abyss' Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1831 Registered: 07-2005 |
Good one Andrew I always thought that the pot called the kettle black now I have my doubts and maybe its the kettle that called the pot black. Matt lee | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 447 Registered: 10-2016 |
Letting go of a (non-existent) deity to replace it with the natural (laws and recommendations of the Creation) takes a lot of change. You have to replace your submissiveness, beseeching, and delusion with dignity, esteem, deference for the natural laws, and love for the next one. It takes learning a complete new mindset, as one drops religion, which is like giving up the crutches and learning to walk again using your own limbs. At first the walk is slow-going, and feeble, but as the years go by you become more strong and brave, and one learns what it takes to eek out the right living existence in the laws of the life living. I'm convinced concordance with the laws and recommendations of the Creation turns on and activates parts of the human brain that were left unused by the religious believer. "Goblet" has so much reference to giving up gods and tin-gods, and sometimes this turns people off from the book because they are seeking instant evolution, but our planet really needs this instruction to set aside religion. According to Billy: 4/5 of Earth humanity suffers from the God-delusion, and most likely disaster will have to roll over the Earth before this changes according to the book "God-Delusion and God-Insanity". How do we change this factoid back to the natural positive? See my post #440 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/3447.html#POST85219 Sometimes religion is deeply ingrained in the psyche of the human-being. Maybe they quit going to church, and took down all the religious artifacts inside their house, and they threw their bible into the garbage can, but they still can suffer from the false thinking that is not the natural thoughts from the inner creative-self that has to learn and experience truth on it's own, and "Goblet of the Truth" can help one overcome the deeply ingrained religious-type ingratiated thinking that mainly comes from social programming of our Western society from the last 2000 years of Christian history. It's time to turn the page on religion, and give up the false narratives that ingratiate one's psyche sometimes. The Bafath wanted us terrestrials religious so we could be controlled and enslaved in consciousness, and the powers-that-be still see us terrestrials as spineless creatures that need to be exploited. How do we turn this factoid back to the natural positive? My post 440 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/3447.html#POST85219 gives this planet attainable solutions to most of Earth's ills in attainable decades and over the course of 2 centuries to make the transition to the laws and recommendations of the Creation hopefully without massive uprisings because of using the world's media to instruct the masses to make the transition. The laws and recommendations of the Creation: these are the cosmic regulations that govern the universe, and for our societies' long-term survival, the Earth's people need to be instructed on their existence and their meanings, and this can only be done with the cooperation of the people at the top of our society. Cause and effect will come calling home, and take some of our fellow human-beings with it now, and more so in the decades after 2020 and 2030. A person at the top of this society could easily become a casualty of a earthquake, a volcanic eruption, or a world war. It's time to turn things around (while collectively withstanding the future natural disasters that remain unalterable predictions from Sfath's time-jumps as best we can.). We need attainable change to survive the future as a species before a complete mess of things is initatited. Diseases to decimate billions of people? Nuclear war to decimate billions more? When exactly are these ultimatums and final solutions supposed to take place? Before the United States self-inflictiedly loses it's superpower status? These are inhumane solutions when the humane and logical solutions to resolve, absolve, and render the problems that face humanity obsolete over some decades and into 2 centuries are only currently followed by a handful of a few responsibility-conscious individuals, and it's time for the masses to make the same logical conclusions as the logical few stemming from instruction using the world's media and making the transition of FIGU recommendations into federal future Earth law within an attainable time-period of 5 to 15 years, or better yet: before all hell breaks loose. Earth society is largely unfair, and slanted towards the wealthy people. Society is supposed to be a fair society, one that is based in the natural laws (as written in the annals of the "Goblet of the Truth" = a source of planetary instruction) and we have a lot of work to do to make this a reality for ourselves first and then branch out to our terrestrial brethren. It will take time for the natural laws and recommendations of the Creation to sit in the consciousnesses of the everyday people for some decades (or centuries), before much positive fruit can be harvested but we might as well start planting some fruit seeds in anticipation of a future harvest. Mankind needs to adapt to the natural laws and recommendations, or nature will change mankind to the detriment. Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth" ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt." 22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them." | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1876 Registered: 07-2005 |
Satanism and luciferianism is sectarian. Dark order and order of darkness, words used by billy to describe people hell bent on world domination and control, I suspect is referring to these Satanic Luciferian the devil worshipping ritual child sacrificing elite pedophile network who have infiltrated every important institutions all over the globe especially Australia, UK, USA, France, Belgium, Germany, Israel, Canada, New Zealand and many other countries. Billy says sectarian alot Sectarian can be cults Sectarian can refer to belief based cults outside of mainstream religions. Sectarian, dark order and order of darkness when put together sounds ominous as if the people who comprise the cult are conjuring the devil and lucifer. Just ask Fiona Barnett From breeders, kidnapped children, orphans, brianwashed celebrities, child services workers, and so forth The dark dark dark is everywhere like dark chocolate Why don't the plejaren and billy ever cover the topic about satanism' luciferianism, devil worshipping, ritual sacrifice, adrenochrome, child torture, satanic ritual child abuse, walnut sauce, drinking of adrenilized blood, elite pedophile network, hunting parties, child rape, Hostel like dungeons where children are confined in, pay to see live murders, kidnapping ring, pedophiles at the Vatican, paul bonaducci's of the world, cathy o'brians of this world, the use of churches and military bases for child rape and sacrifice, human trafficking, child trafficking, organ harvesting, elite sex parties and orgies, true nature of Hollywood etc etc etc Why are these topics off limits when he and they have spoken out and spoken up about a lot of other things. Is it too dangerous Is it too damning Is it too risky Is it too defamatory Is it not true to bother Matt lee | ||
Stardustwilly Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 01-2015 |
All I wish to know right now, is weather any of the above in the last post is true, are those dark order individuals really doing that evil stuff. Is there anything possible that can be done to stop it, even if it's only discussed in as a theoretical possibility. | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 07-2017 |
Willy, As ONE example please see the following: http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_219 find in page: pedophile And keep in mind that there is such a thing as the church of satan (.com, for cryin' out loud), but I am sure that they are beautiful neutral-positive-equalised true Humans, just as they purport! Andrew Grimshaw - The Quiet Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 211 Registered: 04-2008 |
All the materialism, striving for materialistic power, religious thinking prevalent now will make for a great study in human behavior 800 years from now. Like the Plejaren has already done in a recent translated contact report. Tien |
