| Author | Message | ||
    Victor Diaz |
Hello again Mario and People: I really like your answer of april 20 (a month ago!) you are right in many things. That 3rd dimension you have mentioned about the Aztec calendar is real! it is a set of inside wheels and rollers that in the past where colored and represent movement. There are also many new discovers in the Calakamul Maya Archeoplolis that many people interested in the ancient aliens visits would like to see. In this area is a stella where other six are stood at the base of the main pyramid building, of uknown origin (maybe Belize) that represents a deidity or god which is horrible also. An alien? The note written by Mr. Uytterbroek it's very interesting too but confusing about names. Quetzalcoatl it is not necesary this guy from Egypt; some people have found a relation betwen the Mayas and the Egyptian culture in many aspects; so this guy could be the first Kukulcan and later, one of the kukulcans educated within the earliest maya schoolars if there were any, sent a Quetzalcoatl to central mainland. Remember that the conversations with Semjase must be readen many times because they contain many more information that we suspect to have in the first reading and as we do not have the real paragraph we can't conclude the real meaning. Huitzilopochtli was indeed an evil one, a very very bad guy, but how could it be posible that he or it was part of the Giza Intelligences if this kind of society or group was very much late (the same that was around Hitler!), actually expelled by plejarians? This deidity was a nahuatl god and human sacrifaces were all over the mesoamerican cultures by that time and not precise demanded by this special god, there were many others gods of blood thirsty preferences.Look for Coatlicue, Coyoxautli, and many more, were they also from the Giza Group? If that was true our ancestorS were subjected by a gang of aliens. What do you think? and also I would be very please with a coment from Michael who kindly posted the Semjase notes. Regards Victor | ||
Victor Diaz |
Hi Mario and Michael: I want to add another comment to my prior intervention of yesterday’s. I have found some notes taken at this Forum on Giza or Gizeh Intelligences as I was confused about the subject. The site of the Pyramids is the Giza Plateau and The Intelligences of Gizeh were the Group of Extraterrestrials hidden in the underground caves beneath the Great Pyramid of Gizeh ( those caves must be karst formations within limestones and carbonate sandstones disolved by water action plus carbon dioxide developed in a parell system of fractures following the Nile trend underground as an hydrological system). These caves are mentioned by Semjase when comented the King’s Saurid dream abuot the Great Flood and that these caves were used as a refuge by the egyptians during that period in an incredible way.If you ever have been in a cave or pit for a few days you’ll know what I mean. I can’t imagine how those people managed themselves for living so many time without solar light, fresh food, stay above the underground water level that must be raised also, support very low temperatures and lack of oxigen and air circulation among other things!. When Arussem son of Jehav and grandson of Jehavon, returned to the Earth hidden of his brothers got into those caves with people too and found Gizeh Intelligences; very much later The Thule Society was a group of terrestrials under their control to gain power trough the Nazi Goverment. Those poeple (the Gizeh) were sent away from the Earth by plejarians in the present time just a few decades ago. What I can’t diggest is the very big surprise of Mr. Huitzilopotzli as a part of that clan as a commissioner. It could be interpreted that these alien people were among our ancestors when the mesoamerican cultures live from 1300 bC. to 1500 A.D.; other important thing is that he was not alone in this task; there were also other gods and goddes in this party. I can’t imagine that situation, those aliens among nahuatls, aztecs, toltecas, mayas ruling over the people making wars and asking for human sacrifices(the gods asked for the youngest, well educated and most beatifull virgins; the goddes for the cultured, strongest and young male warriors; both gods didn't want to waste time); the sacrifices were done for a great variety of activities in a real madness and foolish way of give end to a human life. I will verify the origin of this god Huitzilopotzli or Huitzilopchtli, because I think something is missing as a truly god of the aztecs, as they were conquers of the earlier tribes of the lakes, they gather and absorb their cultures and traditions together with gods. Best Regards Victor | ||
victor diaz |
Hi Forum: This coment tries to close the subject that I had been dealing with for the last two days in order to put things clear as something was not right about the traditions of the aztec god Huitzilopochtli: this god who was venerated with the heart of the captured warriors by he aztecs was the son of the Earth, Coatlicue, and within the shape of a bird he guided the ancestors of the aztecs ( the mexicas) to a fertil land where they found an eagle eating a snake (that is what traditions said). When they found the site, they were pushed by other tribes to settle at the northern lakes where the waters were salt. Later they conquered all the tribes and lakes. Quetzalcoatl was not exiliated by this god as he was very much earlier; the things got worse for Quetzalcoatl when he left the lakes (Culhuacán) and founded Tula in 980 A.D.in a place where Tezcatlipoca a divine and bloody thirsty god was adored by the local tribes. Years later through the manipulations of the priests of the new city Tezcatlipoca was the one who exiliated Quetzacoatl in the year 999. Quetzalcoatl went to Cholula for a couple of years and finally ended at the coast and returned to his land making the promise to return someday. In this legend there was a fight between these gods but unfortunatelly the evil god won over the good one and the human sacrifices went all over and the aztecs became absolute leaders until in 1519 the white and beared man returned with horses, metals, guns, looking for gold and making the natives into slavery. The revenge? | ||
mario |
Hello, Victor! I'v just read your posts. They're too long :) All of them are very interesting, but like all the sections in this forum it needs a lot more information to have a better idea of the ground one is walking on. (I don't know if this expression exists in english, we use it in spanish.) I'd like to get more information about this issue. Could you provide me with some bibliography or websites you know about this complex matter? Thanks Mario | ||
Mark Campbell |
I recommend two books that are very enlightening about the man known (mistakenly) as Jesus , and known to us as Jmmanuel."Jesus Lived in India" by Kersten Holger and a newer book, "The Original Jesus" by the same author and another writer(I don't own this one).This one is in reference to Buddhism, and paralels in the two teachings. Both are in line with what the Billy and the Plejarens say."India" has recently been revised .Good reading ! | ||
Mark Campbell |
In my Friday , July 21st post I made a mistake about the author's name of "Jesus lived in India".His name is Holger Kersten . Mark | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hello Forum, Has the Garden of Eden ever existed, or it it yet another man made place just to make the harmful religions even stronger? Regards, Inger | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hello again, Yet another question: Who are/were Nefilim (Hebrew), those who were tossed down to Earth, i.e. Annunaki? According to Sumerian sources they have been on the Earth more than 400 000 years, or is this yet another myth? Regards, Inger | ||
Phil McAiney |
Dear Inger: One of the Passive Members from Holland asked about this "Garden of Eden" at the recent annual Passive Meeting in Switzerland this past May. Billy's reply was that the Garden of Paradise actually existed in the area of today's Iraq, or Mesapotamia, known then as Babylonia and Sumeria. Billy also answered about the "Tree of Knowledge", mentioned in the stories of Adam and Eve in the Bible, as also being something that existed. This tree was imported by extraterrestrials at the time and planted in Mesapotamia. This tree was a female single sample, that a male sample had interacted with to become fruitful and by this way the female tree had become fertile. The male tree sample for unknown reasons was apparently not available then so the female tree sample only lived a certain time before it died. The name "Tree of Knowledge" came about because the fruit contained a consciousness-expanding drug. | ||
Savio |
Hi Phil As the male tree was not available, the female tree should bear no fruit. Is the story that Adam & Eve ate the forbidden fruit a true history? Regards Savio | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hello Forum, Thanks for your input about the Garden of Eden and the "Tree of Knowledge". Really interesting indeed. Did Jmmanuel said anything about "Hades", "Gehenna" or the "valley of Hinnom", ever? Maybe he spoke in metaphors since "Hell" doesn't exist. Regards, Inger | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hi all, Since the bible is full of false teachings and doctrines, I wonder if the same has happend to the Koran. Regards, Inger | ||
Jani Metso and Janette Poikajärvi |
Hello, I borrowed a Koran from the local library one day, and it was full of useless babble. I understand that it (Koran) never was a book written by Mohammed - it was only invented and collected later from different sources. And now religious babble is really all there is to gain from that book. At least I didn't find any useful information from it, only prayers and "Allah-stuff." Regards, Jani | ||
Savio |
Hello Where can we find the true teaching of Mohammed? Regards Savio | ||
Anthea |
Hi Savio, Mohammed's life and mission is described to some extent in the booklet: "Those who lie about contacts ..." To my understanding, Mohammed dictated his teachings to his cousin who falsified his words to begin with, and which the "Caliphs" then adulterated further. Kind Regards, Anthea | ||
Savio |
Hi Anthea Thanks for the information. It is a pity that the US website serves only the States, else I would like to purchase online most of the English publications of FIGU. I think it would be great if online service is also available to interested parties outside USA. Credit card payment is not an issue, however workload will be a lot heavier. Regards Savio | ||
Michael Uyttebroek |
Dear Inger, With regards to your posting concerning the Koran, you may want to read the booklet (with a huge title): "Those who lie about contacts, cheats and deceivers in matters pertaining to the Pleiadians, Ashtar Sheran, Ptaah, Semjase, Quetzal and all their collaborators, Jmmanuel, and the Arahat Athersata and Petale Levels - and Questions about Mohammed." Here are some examples from that booklet: In the 'Talmud Jmmanuel': chapter 30 line16: 16."Since he will be a true prophet, but according to you a false one, he will bring you a doctrine that will seem to you confusing and unintelligible, and his rising cult will be distorted and falsified and end in an evil and wrong cult." In the book 'An Open Word': line1371: 1371."But just as had been the case previously, the truthful Prophet Mohammed never had the time to personally mark down his own teachings, his admonitions and prophecies, and as a result his cousin was given the task of doing so. However, he incorrectly interpreted everything by using his own biased judgement and then falsified the statements while recording them, causing Mohammed's teachings even more serious harm than had been the case with Jmmanuel's teachings, some 500 years earlier, through Jmmanuel's brother Jacob, Paul-Saul and the disciples Luke, Matthew, Mark and John." Salome Michael Uyttebroek | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Savio, At billymeier.com, we are now ready (with permission) to sell globally, utilizing online credit card transactions with our secure server. Keep checking back as this will go into effect very soon. We are very excited about this. Kind regards, Andrew | ||
Savio |
Hi Andrew Music to our ears! This is really great news for all of those who search for the truths out there. Well done ! Regards Savio | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hello Forum, According to books, being an atheist is to reject religion and not believe in a god or a creator etc. Is searching for the Truth, learning about the Creation and Its Laws and Directives, spiritual evolution through knowledge and wisdom etc. also equivalent to atheism? Regards, Inger | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hello Inger, A tricky question to be sure. An atheist? No. Neither would it be correct to say agnostic. In my own life, I prefer to be called a henotheist.  Regards, Andrew | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hello Andrew, Thanks for answering my question even though you've resigned as a moderator. Henotheist, is this word created (by you?) because we are related to our ancient ancestors of the Henoch lineage? Kind regards, Inger | ||
Norm |
Inger, No the word Henotheist is in the Webster's New World College Dictionary. "Henotheist - belief in or worship of one god without denying the existence of others" | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hi Norm and Tony, Thanks for helping me. I have been looking in different dictionaries without finding a translation for this word. On FIGU's web-site under "NO VENERATION OF GODS AND IDOLS" it is stated: "we do not place above ourselves any saints, illuminati, so-called enlightened personages, extraterrestrials, gods, gurus, graven and guiding images, idols, channelers, mediums or any other veneration-demanding entities or personages, that is, any personage who is idolized, prayed to, worshiped or revered in one form or other, or who demands accountability in some manner for some actions and deeds." I'm a little confused. Religions are full of believing and worshiping which leads to evolutionary stagnation of the human being and the spiritform. Means the word "god", in a Henoteistic sense, to show respect for an JHWH and that we must know that there are several other JHWHs in existence in our Universe? But what about the word believing? Regards, Inger | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Inger, My response to you was meant lightly, hence the little smile face at the end of my post. Your last comment about the JHWH makes a lot of sense. I think overall, however, a better description to your original question would be said "animistic." (Without the word "believe/belief" in the definition.) This would better describe our outlook, yes? What do you think? Regards, Andrew | ||
Savio |
Hello Anyone knows about a man named Apollonius? He was thought as a great sage who lived in the same era of Jmmanuel, and both performed "works" and "miracles". Thanks Savio |
