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    Norm Member Post Number: 1230 Registered: 02-2000 |
Ok explain this, Hi Billy, I was wondering if you are familiar with the theories behind the so-called New World Order? Part of the theory is as follows. Secret and not so secret groups and organizations are united in trying to create a One World Government, that will be secretly governed by them, while at the same time making it seem Democratic to the rest of the world. Is There anything you can say about these groups. Thank You, Norm ANSWER: Hi Norm, This is nonsense. It is the imaginary work of people who are trying to make money by writing fantastic books about something that is not true. They are claims and theories only. Hi Billy, in a follow-up question to my last question on the New World Order, I need to ask you what the following meant, as it relates to a secret and not so secret World Government? If there is no New World Order then what were these statements about? During the 232nd contact of November 17th 1989: Ptaah: "we have refrained from contacts with Americans, and will do so forever, unless it should happen that this nation and its government and secret government". Later in that same contact its states "those who are guided by religious sects or governments with plans aiming at world dominance, as is the case also with certain terrestrial organizations that strive for world dominance." In the book AN OPEN WORD verse 1369 it states the following. "During the New Age of the future 20th and 21st centuries the destructive beast bearing the number 666 would become active, that is, religious cults, unequal sects as well as secret organizations, would flood the entire mankind with their sectarian madness in delusional beliefs." ANSWER: Hi Norm, "Secret Government" means organizations like the CIA, NSA, etc. etc. "Certain terrestrial organizations" means certain governmental organizations/parts. In Contact 241: UFO sects, etc. etc. My Website | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1231 Registered: 02-2000 |
Dear Billy, You claim that people made up the New World Order to sell books. Would you please comment on theses quotes from David Rockefeller whose from one of the richest families in the world. "Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure---one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." --David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405 "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promise of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The super-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." ---David Rockefeller, at a 1991 Bilderberger meeting "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." ---David Rockefeller "But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all of our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence." ---David Rockefeller, speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994 The meaning of the statement was that many authors of conspiracy books are writing in order to sell books, among other motives of course. Basically, uniting the world is a positive goal, as is the case with a new world order (depending what is meant with this term, of course). Regarding the quotes: Are you sure that quotes #2 and 3 are really authentic? (Note by CF: David Rockefeller’s motives to write his memoirs are probably not to earn money, but to preserve his thoughts and actions for other people to read. If a new “world order” would be founded on the spiritual teachings, which is not very probable in the near future, much good would result.) My Website | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 125 Registered: 04-2007 |
i still think thast bs, billy was trying to avoid chemtrail topics so what makes it think hes truthfully telling the truth about this. i dont mean to demote or discredit bily meier. but there is just way too much evidence leaning towards the NWO. i still have respect for billy, but ever since we found out billy was "lying" about chem trails in order to avoid the powers that be, makes me question if he truly answered the NWO truthfully. After all the NWO is a very big group and has very powerful people in it and if billy meier talks it would be then end since the people in NWO can easily stop holding back and just going straight to his house and fire a bullet in billy. btw, i remember posting a question earlier on regarding something about that. i was curious as to why the powers that be just go and hire someone to just run in and just shoot billy if hes sucha nuisance or whatever. just thought i should point this out P.S.Now i remember that post. They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 449 Registered: 12-2004 |
Please get back to the topic! Salome, Badr | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 731 Registered: 10-2000 |
Please post your evidence that Meier lied about chemtrails and your evidence showing that they are what you believe them to be. Michael Horn | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 04-2007 |
i only heard rumors that billy was not telling the truth or trying to avoid chemtrails. i should have said that. maybe it was christian i dont know but i do remember hearing about billy was hesitant to tak about chemtrails and when forced he gave a lame answer They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey | ||
Marcela Member Post Number: 95 Registered: 06-2008 |
Syn: You don’t mean to discredit Billy Meier, but you are. You should move this conversation to “World Events”. We respect your opinion; if you disagree with Billy’s answers, that is perfectly acceptable; however, it would be good to know when or how you think Billy lied. Salome | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 178 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jU7_eE7AMih8zQgSCHVXb0efSLUAD961MG380 Octuplets' mother has 6 other children | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 04-2007 |
this topic originally came from depopulation from the NWO and were still talking weither the NWO truly exist. They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 450 Registered: 12-2004 |
Well since you are talking about NWO only and not the relation between NWO and depopulation any more, you are kindly requested to either go back to talking about overpopulation or take this discussion to another place. Salome, Badr | ||
Stephen_moore New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2009 |
Hello Forum This is my view on one way us Humans can start to tackle this problem Overpopulation is something that has to be address in schools. Spiritual teachings and the truth about life and creation needs to be teached in school. Then children will have a ideal if you like about life and why its so important to regulate Human reproduction. Obviously this means that our Governments and other powerful structures on Earth would have to admit the truth and possible admit that Meier is a true prophet and his teachings are valid. As we already know that the powerful ones on Earth know about all this and are not telling anyone then I think one area that needs to be change is in the teaching of children from a young age. They first need the knowledge about creation and their own spirits, then with this knowledge they can then better understand why to many Humans is distructive to our Planet. Also the religions of Earth that are continueing to put ideas in peoples heads like "Go forth and multiply" and the general thinking that a normal life is get married and have children needs to be tackled. It need to be known that its OK to not have children in your life and that you are not better or worse then anyone else. - Freewill Finally here in england the system helps single perents more on average then families. As in housing and funding. This is encouraging single young women to have children (Some with more then one father) to become Mothers just to get a House/Flat or/and Funding from the system. This in my view is a problem here in england and needs to be change to a system where young women are not encouraged to have children at a early age and not without a perminent father (Family) Thanks for your time Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 732 Registered: 10-2000 |
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article5627634.ece Michael Horn | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 179 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets;_ylt=AunBPDBG15kWDexqwVY9Pnms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFkcmwwYzE3BHBvcwMxNDEEc2VjA2FjY29yZGlvbl9oZWFsdGgEc2xrA2dyYW5kbWFvY3R1cA-- This is just insane ... maybe something this crazy will focus some attention towards enacting birth limit laws. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 606 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Greetings to All In Peace, Our new member, Stephen_moore, has made an important point: "Overpopulation is something that has to be address in schools." Well written, and a very good idea, Stephen. Now, about implementing this into the curriculum, this gets a little sticky. Perhaps, here in the USA, we could get the ACLU involved to support the enactment of this idea. Some of you here may wonder "why do I propose the churches be subject to taxation?" Please read my post archived in >>The Planet Earth >> Religion, here: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/9607.html#POST38241 The answer is simple. Churches ARE the GREATEST OBSTACLE to the implementation the Global Birth-Stop Initiative. In particular is the blindness in the dogma of the catholics, but all of them share in blocking true progress for this most important of all causes for which we may stand. Then, my proposed Fair Taxation of all churches, mosques, synagogues, together with all their 'businesses', is a Strategic move. This is to open a 'second-front' in the issue for a halt to the Global Over-Population. By under-cutting the monetary base of such religious organizations, they become weakened. The grip on the minds of the people can be loosened. The people may then become more able to reason, to think for themselves, to understand the crisis which results from overpopulation; more capable to see the logic in the global Birth-Stop initiatives. The proposed "Fair Taxation of religions" is gathering steam going forward. My proposal has now gone to US Senators, and has been put forward to the Raechel Maddow TV program. I have also made several posts at Project Avalon, which is gathering more support. See at: http:/www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=108015&posted=1#post108015 One of the Moderators at Avalon (who must remain anonymous, as our communications have been private), has an Attorney drafting a legal proposal for this initiative to Mr. President Obama and his senior staff. I have also asked the ACLU here myself, to step up and propose legislation to congress, to overcome the objections of those who fall on the "Separation of church and state" argument. Stephen, as you express: "the religions of Earth that are continueing to put ideas in peoples heads like "Go forth and multiply"," should be rendered to say: GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY YOURSELF IN TRUTH, LOVE AND WISDOM. Salome *** You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped) Rod | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 735 Registered: 10-2000 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7865332.stm Michael Horn | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 01-2009 |
Michael Horn Thats interesting what you posted. Sounds like someone sees the need to do something about our overpopulation problem. I wonder if he has been reading anything from Billy's material?? Its interesting to read the comments that is posted on that page. Some not very constructive. J_rod7 In most countries, from what I can gather, its the Government and/or the rich elite people that control what is taught in schools. If they seriously wanted to tackle overpopulation in a logical way then they with have to start telling people a few thruths I think. People will ask questions if their children are being told that theres a overpopulation problem in schools and/or churches. Maybe they will come up with some lies  Thanks Stephen Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 174 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Rod, In my opinion, what you are doing is brilliant. Count on my involvement/help, as I have already sent a few letters to the links you have provided using your letters and some of the great articles posted here on the forum. Salome Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 175 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Earthling, Regarding your posts 178 and 179, it is absolutely insane to promote such a thing while the homeless, shelterless, foodless, lack/expense of medicine, jobless etc, etc, etc, are increased by the minute; with the crisis on economy, as the icing of the cake. The saddest part is that here in LA; they are constantly bragging about it on the news also. Talk about promotion. Salome Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1232 Registered: 02-2000 |
Michael, Did you read the responses from that Article on two child limit. Its like 80% against that idea. And how dare we say how many kids they can have was the attitude. My Website | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1233 Registered: 02-2000 |
What good is it if the population goes down in Europe & the USA when the borders are wide open & everyone from the overpopulated countries can just walk right in. The third world needs to be the number one target for population limits. They would be so much better off themselves for it. They wouldn't have to leave their countries. There would be plenty of jobs, food etc. My Website | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 181 Registered: 05-2008 |
Creational ... not to mention the irresponsibility and shamefulness of the doctor who enabled that woman who already had 6 kids and no money. Insanity, all the way around. There really need to be a law to prevent this kind of thing and to hold doctors responsible as well. | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 738 Registered: 10-2000 |
Norm, At least there are people out there posting the truth, even with the opposition of the ignorant masses. Michael Horn | ||
Freddy3980 New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2008 |
Thanks Michael for posting the link that I gave you |
