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Creational
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Rod,

Regarding your post 516;
You sent me to an exciting journey researching what Phaethonsfire (member) AKA Jacob (moderator), had to offer.
The quotes by the way were perfect responses to a possible confused seeker, in my opinion.
I ended up making a 47 page document of Jacob’s valuable posts regarding the subject matter which I will try to add to this post if possible. If not, then I can send it to each one of you personally, if anyone is interested.
I am still stunned by the wealth of information one can get from every one of you. Thank you, Rod.

Dear Jacob,

Wherever you are, I thank you for this great information.
Truth never dies, it is eternal. Your past posts share the same characteristics.

Salome

p.s. my document is too large;514 kB. My offer stands for interested members.
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Pathfinder
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Post Number: 248
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for the kind words Zhila.

David, evolution is both spiritual and technoligical, so I am always talking about both.

To evolve spiritually one most certainly requires a different sort of indulgence. And that could be accelereted simply by becoming aware of the need too indulge to that purpose.

Most earthlings are not aware of their spiritual truth and therefore do nothing to advance that aspect of themselves. This is part of the FIGU missions, is it not. To bring awareness to the masses. Then an acceleration of bringing that message would be an acceleration of evolution.

Hunter
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
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Kingman
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Post Number: 573
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hunter,

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Pathfinder
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shawn,

That doesn't mean that when you are traveling in the desert with your horse that you do not make a valiant effort to find water for it in case it might take a drink.
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 527
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Ah, Creational Zhila,

You have Collected all the words of Phaethonsfire? Astounding.!

If You have that in a format which can be E-mailed, I would LOVE to have a copy. With my great appreciation, you may forward in an E-mail to me at:
rodnbun@tampabay.rr.com

Thank You, Zhila.

Also, for your information (FYI), I have made a "deposit" of a 'First-Time' Post from one by username Yori into the New Section for Peer Review. Yori asks some interesting Questions, wihich we may evaluate, condense, pass along to Billy as appropriate.

Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Scott
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Post Number: 1638
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Zhila,

Jacob, also put together a Yahoo group back in 2004 with all of his writings. Here is the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akasha-chronicles/ You have to be a member, so I don't know how that can be accomplished, because I don't know if he can be contacted very easily. If you like I will try and get a a hold of him. The sight is somewhat organized, and makes it easier than searching through the whole forum.

Regards
Scott
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Creational
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pathfinder/Hunter,
I merely used the word confused because this is how you reflect yourself in your posts; as a puzzled person who is seeking answers, pretty much like all of us.
No sarcastic insult was meant. That is just not my style.
Peace,
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Creational
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Scott,

You are so kind. Yes, it would be great if you could be a liaison.
Meanwhile, I will try to apply for the membership in the yahoo group you mentioned.
Thank you very much.
Salome
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Creational
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Scott, I was not allowed; I guess I have to be invited. Thanks for making this extra effort. Please let me know.
Salome

Hi Zhila,

I contacted Jacob today and mentioned to him the interest of you and others in accessing the Yahoo Group I mentioned. He did say, he may start posting again this coming January on the Forum. I will let you know when I find out more concerning the Akasha-Chronicle Group.

Regards
Scott

Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Creational
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Rod,

Sorry, I had some internet connection problems. It's Done. Just check you email.

By the way, thank you for depositing member Yori’s inquires. You are already active, that’s great.
He/she has several questions. As far as I know, we can only submit one question per member, unless we can condense them all into one. It seems he is just asking the forum as a newcomer and not really specifically directing Billy. Also, Yori may not be aware of the way the forum works and needs a bit time. He/she is the one who can ask us to reword his questions.
I just don’t want us to start suggesting revision without his consent. I noticed you addressed him in a post. Let’s wait for his respond.
Meanwhile, I thought of a question and am open to suggestions. I will post it following this post.

Salome
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Creational/Zhila,

I am interested in your document of the Phaethonsfire posts. My email is redbeard56@yahoo.com

Thanks, Redbeard
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Pathfinder
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Post Number: 262
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Zhila,

I am aware of your 'style' from recent posts. My confusion does not come from my lack of understanding, it comes from the responses that I have received from the members here and their inability to or desire not to address the issues I am confronting them with.

So please keep your personal judgemenst to yourself. There is no need to write them into your posts. You don't have to like me, or respect me or think anything of me. You don't even have to reply to my posts. I am only asking questions that many other visitors to this forum would ask. And voicing my opinions and thoughts just like you are.

Hunter
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 537
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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ED-Pathfinder-Hunter,
NOW you are being disrespectful, judgmental, and downright RUDE.

[ " So please keep your personal judgemenst to yourself. There is no need to write them into your posts. You don't have to like me, or respect me or think anything of me. " ]

Have you read Contact #1 yet? Go do it. Don't bother coming back until you do. You will then apologize for your disrespect when you do come back.

sayonara dude
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Creational
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Redbeard,

I did sent you a copy.Happy reading.

Salome
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Thomas
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Post Number: 573
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Zhila, if the offer still stands, I would also appreciate a copy of the texts you have compiled. My email is:

patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com

And thank you in advance!
Thomas
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Creational
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 04:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Thomas,
It is emailed. Happy reading.
Salome
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Pathfinder
Member

Post Number: 282
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

Hope everyone that celebrates the Xmas season had wonderful holidays.

I have been reading through some posts from the 2002 archives, specifically taking note of a member called Nonesuch.

He is obviously a practicing Hindu and I cannot agree with some of his thoughts. However, I think he does reflect some of the thoughts that I am now working over myself. I also see that in his attempt to discover some means of using the teaching of BEAM in corrolation with his own mindset, he has, much like myself, drawn undeserved criticism. This has obviously been going on in this forum for many years and has made some members, 'ready to tangle', so to speak, when certain buttons are pushed. I am not trying to dredge up old arguments and haul them into the present tense. I would like to be able to follow up on some of the points that Nonesuch made though, without being attacked in the same manner.

I agree that BEAM has some worthwhile spiritual insights. There are other aspects that I do not agree with. But I would like to be able to create a balance that can be useful in my pathfinding. I would appreciate the help of others, and their debate or advice on any of my thoughts, unless they are going to tell me that I have no right to my own thoughts, and begin to become defensive and insulting.

First of all, with regard to other contactees, I am really not as interested in what BEAM has to say about their credibility as I am in the other races that BEAM acknowledges exist. I know this is a topic for another thread, but as it regards to religion, I am curious if Nonesuch had managed to find any coincidences between this Krishna and the blue skinned people. Or in establishing whether it is possible to make contact with other races that already exist here on this planet, and would therefore not be considered extraterrestrial contacts.

Secondly, with regard to universal consciousness; I cannot accept that the Creator has no identity, or that creation only exists in the minds of those who observe it. Something must exist before it can be observed.

This is what I think of when I hear this type of thinking:

The science of how the eye-brain corolation works goes something like this. The object cannot really be seen by the organ we call the eye. The eye simply cannot perform that task just like the liver cannot help us breathe.

What happens is the light that is reflected from that object is absorbed by the eye organ, and that light is than translated into an image in our minds by the brain. So to an extent what we see is not really the object, but the light that the object reflects. The object does not cease to exist just because we turn the lights out.

In comparison to universal consciousness, what we think we see, is not really what we are looking at, and the real truth of what that object is remains unknown, until we can interact with it and apply the use of other senses such as touch and smell. These further evaluate the object through brain impulses and continue to reveal/define the truth of what the object really is.

IMO, creation is an object that is there regardless of whether we touch it or see it. Light will refelct from it, regardless of whether or not it reflects through our eye organs and becomes translated in our brains as images.

Creation does not simply exist as an upside down image on the backside of our brain's viewing screen. it is there, always waiting to be revealed.

Now who or what this BEING is that placed that object there in the first place is a question that we should all have on our minds if we seek truth.

For one, I would very much like to know if there are other races out there, or on earth, that can offer more information on creation and the abilities of the spirit.

I am very interested in these blueskinned people and am now studying about them. It seems that there are more than just african, caucasion, aboriginal and oriental races living on this planet, and to be curious about what insight they might have is logical when searching for every opportunity to track down the elusive prey of truth. For instance, I have become very curious about the HOPI interactions with the blue skinned people and how the HOPI traditions and teachings relate their experiences with what they may have learned from ETs over thousands of years.


Sincerely,
Hunter
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 574
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hello there Ed-Pathfinder-Hunter, Warmest greetings to All,

There are still yet remnants of the Blue-skinned race living in the land of India. Many have interbred with the Brown skin and lighter skin people of the region, but you should still be able to find some. They are Human Beings like all the rest of us, of course. After so MANY years have passed, whatever they knew of their origins will have become legends. If you travel to India, ask around, and you may meet with some for yourself. Direct experience is the greatest Teacher.

There is an underground race of Extraterrestrials North of the Himalayas (within the mountains). I recall that Billy met with some from this group, called The Agartha (I think). Their main underground city is the famed Shambala. They are a peaceful people, and have StarFlight capable Beamships. You will not likely find this place yourself, But if you can get an audience with the Dalai Lama, he could tell you some stories.

There is another group of Extraterrestrial Humans living under the mountain of Mount Shasta, in California, USA. These are believed to be among the survivors from the destruction of Atlantis. They also have StarFlight capable craft. They are also a peaceful people, quite shy, and some occasionally come into local towns to trade for supplies. Their Craft are seen around the area from time-to time, and they hide the entry through the mountain very effectively. Go to Shasta and ask around for yourself. If your Spiritual Energy is high enough, you may learn something.

There has been direct contact with Air Marshal Sir Peter Horsley in 1954. Some of the recorded conservation reflects very accurately on information given to Billy by the Plejarens. This was posted in the section >> ET Intervention on Earth...:
Part 1:/ here
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/9489.html#POST37003
Part 2:/ here
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8841.html#POST37279

The Hopi and Navajo, and others, came forth from the Maya, which came forth from the Inca, which came forth from Atlantis, which came forth from the Stars.

There is not enough space in this forum for all the relevant details - happy hunting, there's an interesting trail to follow.

Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Scott
Moderator

Post Number: 1657
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's stick to the topic
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Pathfinder
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Post Number: 283
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rod,

I have a blog that we can discuss this is if you're interested.

http://www.blueskinsearcher.blogspot.com/

Thanks for the help.
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 600
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****
I THINK this applies under the topic of religion. Following is the copy of a note which I have written to President Obama at the address...: comments@whitehouse.gov

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Mr. President Obama, and All Senior Staff of the President,

With great respect for you, and the work you are engaged on the path of our national economic recovery.

I am a citizen of true Spiritual orientation, not either atheist nor agnostic. I humbly make this suggested proposal...:

TAX ALL "RELIGIOUS" ORGANIZATIONS.

TAX THE LANDS, OFFICES, BUILDINGS, BUSINESSES, AND SUBSIDIARY HOLDINGS OF ALL "CHURCHES."

"Churches" are obviously defined to mean all Catholic, Protestant, aligned and non-aligned groups, Mosques, Temples, Synagogs, and etc. of every 'faith,' denomination, or orthodoxy. None can cry "foul" or "discrimination," as this proposal applies to all such organizations.

Too many of these are hiding revenue, income, stocks, bank accounts, profit-making assets and businesses behind the false facade of "religious exemptions."

The time has come now, for all such "exempt" religions to pay their 'fair-share.'

The only exemptions to be allowed for "churches," should be those projects directly engaged in TRUE humanitarian efforts.

Such exemptions should be allowed for Hospitals of such religious organizations; for Schools; for food, shelter, medical, and emergency aid assistance that such organizations establish. Also exempt, should the 'Native American' churches and their associated projects.

There are literally many Billions of dollars to be realized from the application of taxation to all otherwise Non-Humanitarian holdings of all the 'religions' and 'churches.' These 'churches' have hidden assets and profits from the eyes of scrutiny far too long. In these times of the greatest crisis in the economy of our nation, every available resource must be applied to the solution.

Sir, you and your staff should include this proposed solution to the considered Tax-Relief package for the acceptance of Congress. I do hope that you will give this proposal serious consideration. I vote: YES, and ask the same of you, sir.

I am but one citizen who supports you in ALL your efforts, and I commend you for the work you are doing.

My hope is for your continued success.

With great Respect,

(My Name)
~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~

Perhaps more among us here could copy and send this to Mr. Obama. We could yet break the grip which religions have on the minds, spirits, (and wallets) of the people. This could be a good start. YES?

Salome
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Historeed
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very well-stated J_rod7! I'm on-board with this.
I wonder though...if this proposal were to gather attention in Washington, what sort of reaction could we expect from "religious-lobbyists"? Regardless, a much needed discussion would arise throughout the country.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 601
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Thank you Historeed,

I have sent additional copies off to my local newspaper, to the Editor at the New York Times, and to everyone in my email address book - asking for them all to forward it to their local newspaper editors. If all in these Forums could do likewise ... MUCHO APPRECIATION.

If we can get people TALKING about this, it can actually happen. This COULD result in the start of a break-up of the religion 'strangle-hold.'

As the man said: [("TEAR DOWN THESE WALLS") -Ronald Reagan].

As to the "religious-lobbyists," I expect they will all squeal like pigs going to the roaster. Let em squeal.!!!

Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod

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