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Creational
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Post Number: 170
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 06:11 pm: | 
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Dear Rod,
In support of your great point, I sent the request to the email you have provided.
Salome
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 224
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 02:46 am: |
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Beste Empfehlung geehrte Moderators, the forum,
Herr Rod,
The proposal in your post 600, if applied, would indeed be a major breakthrough.
Personally, i did not yet send a message addressing this issue and supporting your stance, for i am waiting for the answer of Herr Meier to my question-request(post 216; at 'Peer Review':
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/show.cgi?12/9502) - that is, assessment von Herrn Meier of the spirit of that gentleman; support and, eventually, protection.
If the last one(protection) would not be granted, i am afraid that, taxing churches - together with the state funded new abortion policy and birth control - would be too much to carry for two shoulders alone.
And i think, Kamerad Zhila has a strong point: we should not underestimate the power of our unified will - as students(of good will) of the Spiritual Teachings.
Salome,
Adam. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 229
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 12:22 am: |
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An interesting local news:
"3 Feb. 2009
The Dutch evangelical, TV presentator and former director of the Evangelical Broadcast Organisation (EO), Andries Knevel, openly rejected his belief in Young Earth Creationism and ID.
He apologised for promoting those beliefs in the past years to his children and the public.
He wants credibility, reliability and belief.
He desires an open debate about God and evolution with believers and non-believers alike." [...]
http://iarnuocon.newsvine.com/_news/2009/02/04/2395195-dutch-young-earth-creationist-experiences-scientific-conversion
NOTE: Mister Andries Knevel is to the Dutch religious media, what Larry King, for instance, is to the the art of interview on CNN.
Heed to Creation, indeed!
Salome,
Adam.
PS: did you notice the date? - 3 February!:-) |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 09:13 am: |
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If anyone is curious about President Obama's viewpoints on religion this may be of interest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 02:13 pm: |
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If anyone is curious about religions & sects .... follow the link from this page.
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/
Site Map navigates you towards the main menu.
Cheers.
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 56
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 07:46 am: |
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Conflicting viewpoints regarding Islam.
Here are links for two sites between them containing a truly huge collection of articles, videos, links, discussions.
The merits, truths, distortions, revelations, naive assumptions, malicious fabrications which you may find are part of your journey.
What were the Prophet Mohammad's intentions ?
Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca, in the year 570 AD. His father, Hazrat Abdullah, died before Muhammad was born and his mother, Amina, died when he was only six. So he became an orphan when he was very young. His uncle, Hazrat Abu Talib took care of him until he was old enough to take care of himself.
Did his mission go spectacularly awry or were lies & distortions deliberately inserted into the teachings after his death so material benefits might be harvested, power expanded, control maintained by those who sought to benefit from an opportunity .... sound familiar ? ..... the council of Nicea in 325ad.
http://www.discoveringislam.org
http://www.islam-watch.org/index.html
Cheers.
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Creational
Member
Post Number: 228
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 06:15 am: |
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Ranks of nonbelievers growing, Southwest becoming center of US Catholicism, survey finds
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-rel-religious-america,0,7972854.story
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Jacobus
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:55 am: |
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One Question, (since Billy’s got so much on his hand, maybe somebody else here could help me out with this question)
Are there still like minded, earth bound individuals who knew the existence of the Giza- intelligences, and today, still knowingly carry on with the filthy tradition of using religion as a tool for negative purposes?
Are there still people like that who continue to pull the strings behind the scenes?
Appreciated^ |
Creational
Member
Post Number: 232
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 05:15 pm: |
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Sorry Scott.
Note: This is a continuation of a discussion about religion in my post#231, in the Kelch der Wahrheit thread.
Dear Markcampbell,
During the 70’s, the Iranian youth's energy which was subtly manipulated by outside forces, did not, and could not realize the hidden agenda at all. (Sadly, I am witnessing the same exact yet stronger strategy performed now. One would assume they would change their tactics in order to stay unrecognized. But why should they, as long as humanity buys into their rubbish. Nowadays, they even go as far as announcing publicly to our anesthetized senses, as to why change something that has worked already.)
Those days , a huge herd of Iranian students like me were granted visas; and fluxed to the States...
We were so naive to think that we were intellectually and academically cared for without any underlying agenda; only to quickly wake up to an unprecedented nightmare much worst than the reality that we were made so resentful of. (American and Iranian citizen's well being was never a concern. Only a handful of individuals and their fame and fortune has always been the issue.)
All in all, as a group, we are blessed to be informed about the reality shown through Billy without any hidden selfish motives. Truth is indeed everlasting.
Salome,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 64
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 09:45 pm: |
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Jacobus.
Downloadable mp3 which reveals an agenda & the speakers state of mind.
http://www.udmercy.edu/podcasts/media/christ_in_the_city_10062006.mp3
Here is a start.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1700157,00.html
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm
Cheers.
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Jacobus
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 02:59 pm: |
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Thanks Ramirez,
Interesting info, I am still reading though.
Is it a coincidence that there is a pyramid on the one dollar bill? I don't think so.
The thing is, I am planning a painting, where in the painting, a man is going to stand elevated above two apposing religious god cults followers, pulling the strings, literally. This causes the manipulated ones to separate and jump into a preplanned war.
I believe images are in some cases more powerful than words. That's what I’m striving for, to get the message across through other means...and to strike on a deeper level. |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 03:58 pm: |
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Hi Creational ;
Thanks for the insight . The Ayatolla , being a religious figure at the time , did nothing to spiritually lead the people , but to rally them for his own agenda .As far as I know !
Kind Regards , Mark |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 66
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 05:54 pm: |
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Jacobus.
The most interesting question regarding Father Kolvenbach is that he is the only Jesuit Inspector General to leave the position whilst still living. Why ?
The present US financial meltdown is no accident, rather a planned strategic gambit which during it's course facilitates a range of possible outcomes to emerge for those able to manipulate various levers of economic, political, religious power.
Has Father Kolvenbach left front stage to act as an advisor behind the scenes ?
Lots of activity backstage right now ....
What you say about religious cults becoming manouvered into a conflict is certainly possible though I think a more ambitious overall plan to reshape human society is manifesting.
As for your painting idea. Sure .... images can convey concepts far more effectively than words.
If you show an annonymously vague group clad in black  standing elevated over the globe & perhaps behind a curtain pulling strings on religion, politics, finance, energy this might be a theme to consider.
Cheers.
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Creational
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 08:10 am: |
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Dear Markcampbell,
Your are right in your assessment. The Ayatollah had a personal issue with the Shah.
Thank you for your insight.
Salome,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Jacobus
Member
Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 08:55 am: |
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Ramirez,
Fascinating info, a couple of gems hidden in there. It seems to me that there is always something new to learn, and that the more you understand, the more you realize that human life means nothing to these powerful criminals. They truly believe that they are far more important than the average human. How wrong they are. When will they realize the universal law of cause and effect? This cycle of their wicked deceitful traditions needs to be broken.
And only the truth can have that affect
Anyway, here is the rough sketch.
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 66
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 12:14 pm: |
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Greetings Jacobus.
Certainly your viewpoints would correspond with someone who has evaluated the situation accurately. Some have become obsessed with a destination & road losing sight of the journey along the way.
Wow .... oh yes. Particularly effective showing the hands of dismayed children reaching out towards each other whilst adults carry baners in oposite directions. This is well though out. Overall color theme is very attractive.
Personally I would remove the helicopters & place oil wells, supertankers, money sort of symbols on the globe underneath with slender threads linking to them from just below the steps as a continuation of the puppetmasters strings.
You show one entity. Maybe a variation could include a small group of shaddowy entities inside a web instead of the helicopters .... like spiders surrounding the central figure.
About the links provided.
In case you missed some clues .... Father Kolvenbach's introduction.
His council is credited as being highly sought after by persons of wealth ?
Why ? Which persons of wealth ?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_rothschild09.htm
There are other clues more discernable after studying the Jesuits hidden agenda & strategic modus operandi.
Try here.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_rothschild.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican16.htm#THE%20BUSINESS%20OF%20GOD
If you read too much your painting will be neglected 
Regards.
Cheers.
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Creational
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Post Number: 236
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 08:26 pm: |
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Dear Ramirez,
I am enjoying the information you have provided also. Thanks for sharing.
Salome
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Creational
Member
Post Number: 237
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 08:58 pm: |
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Dear Jacobus,
What you have portrayed in your post # 26 is quite fascinating. I agree with Ramirez and love the part where the two kids are separated by force due to an unreal and phony ideological dispute .
The puppeteers know that, “in order to control the puppets, they need to divide them.”
You are artfully telling a sad but true story that is plaguing humanity. Thank you for sharing your beautiful art.
Salome
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Jacobus
Member
Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 07:03 am: |
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Ramirez and Creational
I am very glad that you guys like the basic concept. Your feedback is pushing me to start painting sooner than I was expecting. When I finish it, I’ll take a picture and post in under the “Poetry, Music and Art” section, and who knows, maybe general Hans will be the puppet player!
(Ramirez)I wish I had more time to answer you question properly, but to cut it short, what stood out and shocked me the most was the bit about the illegal drug trade, and how the Jesuits, and specifically the Jesuit General Hans Kolvenbach have complete control over it. I have always vaguely suspected the ..IA of being the biggest player concerning drugs. Now it appears that they’re only front men, taking orders from higher up, just like many other groups… really interesting. These guys know how to hide, and direct attention away from them. Honestly, who is gonna suspect them? Noboddy.
“It is the child of destruction, the Anti-Logos, the malicious, confusing, sneaking, lurking and deadly.” These people are the Anti-Logos. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 12:21 pm: |
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Dear Zhila.
Glad you are finding the linked information of value.
Whilst not supporting 100% of the contents as being 100% accurate there are sufficient alarm bells going off to indicate the material being presented is an accurate analysis of how the wheels turn.
Take a dose of snakebite serum and steady your nerves.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bilderberg_2.htm#inicio
Dear Jacobus.
As you dig deeper the nature of the information becomes more disturbing.
Please consider that what you read in the areas of disclosure is never absolutely beyond reproach & challenge.
It's wise to cross check information, evaluate the reliability & motives of the source and above all .... follow your intuition.
Look forward to seeing your completed painting.
Cheers.
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Jacobus
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 12:50 am: |
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Yes, it is just another piece to the puzzle: I never expect to finish it, too many pieces. And besides if one would discover that a source was misleading or false, doesn't matter; that is ultimately how you find and learn, by sifting through the rubbish dump called the world wide web.
p.s the painting is going to be quite large, just over a meter long, I plan to finish on the 15th of May.
Here is a "finished" painting, It is called "Poison", When I showed this to a particularly religious individual, she was angry with me for a week( she was foaming at the mouth furious, and I didn't even utter a word to get her into that state), she says it's ugly and evil. So, who was I to disagree. The skinny little guy isn't exactly an oil painting, well actually, he is. My grandmother on the other hand says it's beautiful. What does the painting signify to you?
Cheers
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 09:12 pm: |
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Hi jacobus ;
It looks like ; here is a guy who is just living his life with all of the popular influences around him . Commerciality in all it's forms . he hasn't looked around enough to know that there is a better drink available , and the truth ......
MC |
Jacobus
Member
Post Number: 27
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 12:58 am: |
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MC,
Yea, poor guy, the odds are just stacked up against him. He's destroying himself, and happily so I have to add. |
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