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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 540
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim: “With your solution, you are assuming…<snip>”

Hello Jim

Actually, the only “solution” I was trying to imply is hopefully time will tell. I did however “assume” for this discussion that Notovitch, Roerich and Abhedananda all saw “something” in common. If it makes you feel better, you can throw in the other people as well.

Regards
Bob
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Savio
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Post Number: 661
Registered: 07-2000
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear all

Further on with the topic of Jmmnauel in India, I would like to draw your attention to a book named “A search for the historical Jesus” by Professor Fida Hassnain

Professor Hassnain, a Muslim, was born in 1942 in Srinagar, Kashmir.

(Srinagar, Kashmir! Ring any bell? ^_^)

Fida Hassnain graduated from the University of Punjab, and the Muslim University, Aligar, and became a barrister.

He became Director of the Kashmir State Archives, of Archeological Research and Museums, continuing until his retirement in 1983.

In 1960, he was ordered to proceed to Leh, the capital of the former kingdom of Ladaka, to examine historical records and maps relevant to the border dispute between China and India.

During one of the visits, he came by chance upon a document relating to Jesus Christ. It was this event that aroused his curiosity and led him to embark on a quest for the historical Jesus.

His research indicated that Jesus was educated in India during his youth and returned to India after his crucifixion, died at the age of 120 and buried in Rozabal in Srinagar. Where Jesus is revered by Islamic, Buddhist and Christians.

He provided proofs for his findings and verified the 1987 findings of Nocolas Notovitch a Russian regarding Jesus’ existence and the related records kept by Lamas.

Happy searching

Savio
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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 182
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 03:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Savio,

Thank you so much.

Jun
My will be done
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 510
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Savio,

"died at the age of 120"

I think you might find this a little stretched.
Unable to recall which one but in some ?? contact report an age of 113 years is given but Srinagar rings a bell. Also his corpse was later moved and reburied in a secret location where .... it will never be discovered.
Cheers.
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Savio
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Post Number: 662
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jun

You are welcome

Hi Ramirez

According to TJ and 334th contact, Jmmanuel died at the age of 115 of natural causes and was buried at Srinagar.

There might be no birth/death certificate 2000 years ago, yet we still can extract the information from within, that is: Jmmanuel died at an old age, which is still exceptional even up to this day.

115 or 120, 2000 years ago, longevity is an indication of the greatness of wisdom, only achievable by those great Masters.

Salome

Savio
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 250
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Predictions of Prophet ELIA(2007 edition)

272E
"His numbers will be the one, the three and the seven and thus the number of the knowing and the wise."

Question: Are these 1, 3 & 7 numbers about astrology related..and wat is their significance..
Without love & compassion, meditation is meaningless - Jiddu Krishnamurthy
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Edward
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Post Number: 1876
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Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Magihitam....


The One and Three has slipped my memory at the moment; I did read it somewhere in the past, but the Seven is common knowledge.

The Seven signifies: as you may have read, the Seven Prophets, Levels
(variety), and go so forth; you will come across it/them as you read further, the
Meier Materials.


Edward.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam, Billy was born in 1937.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Edward
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Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sheila....


Yes, I am familiar with that, also.

But, I think there was more to the meaning of the numbers...than only his
mentioned birthdate(?).

Edward.
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Sonik_01
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Post Number: 168
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Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Question:

Some time ago I read Talmud Ymmanuel to find that Jesus was an impostor, as well as the culprit for the centuries of religious war and persecution which followed the etablishment of his church. BEAM may not be the first to take this negative view of Jesus. According to an article in Time or Newsweek, the American presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan, in the election of 1908, denounced his opponent President William H Taft for his association with the Unitarians, whom he accused of portraying Jesus Christ as an impostor. All I know is that the Unitarians have denied the mystical and Messianic qualities of Jesus even while acknowledging him as a great teacher. But have they denounced him as an impostor?

Hi Jschafer,

My opinion is that you must develop an opinion outside of religions because most religions are flawed, if not outright wrong. Jesus was not an impostor, Jesus never existed! His name was not Jesus, his name was Jmmanuel, and he was a great prophet. He was not the son of God, but the son of the Et Ishwish at the time, Gabriel, and most, if not all that is written about him in the bible is wrong.. I do not know if the Unitarians have denounced Jesus as an impostor and I really don't care. You shouldn't either because the Unitarians still base most of their beliefs on the Bible, and other texts. The point that I am trying to make is that one should be informed rather than believing, and the Unitarians are believing, and you will find no benefit in "following" them or anybody else, because (and this is right), "They are blind leading the blind, and both will fall into a ditch". You don't need anyone leading you around by the nose if you are well informed. This is the right place for you to find lots of lost information, and think about it. I invite you to search through the archives and find lots of stuff that has been discussed.

Happy Learning!
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Sitkaa
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Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A rose by any other name is still a rose. The Talmud of Jmmanuel would provide us with the most accurate rendition of the events and thoughts of Jmmanuel. Thank goodness we have as much of it as we have.
Love is always the way
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Justsayno
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Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward, do you or anyone else know any links to the true meaning of the numbers?
Sheila
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 485
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Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 03:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regarding , http://www.theyfly.com/An_Extraordinary_Surprise.html , and specifically;

"In the afternoon of Saturday, October 30, 2010 .... Just recently, Ptaah and Billy have begun working together concerning the Talmud Jmmanuel which must be fundamentally revised and corrected and provided with many additional explanations and remarks."


Does anyone know the nature of and reasons for, these fundamental revisions and additional clarifications?


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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 570
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Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of the issues is that mostly everywhere in the book the 'Spirit' is mentioned what was meant is the 'Material Consciousness' . This means ,of course , everything about a person that can feel ,think , sense , move and act .The Spirit is a deeper component of the human being that we are not normally in contact with directly at our level of evolution , and especially people back in those times weren't.
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Sanjin
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Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Earthling, I think that it might be, at least partially, due to the inquiries that we made about the exaggerated number of people that were fed and also that quote that was mentioned by Ptaah to be in the TJ, but it was not.

Also, some parts of the TJ do seem discontinuous to me and might be because some scrolls and lines of text were damaged, or missing, just not translated properly, or originally not translated at all by Isa Rashid.

Mariann Uehlinger Mondria told me that the corrections are made due to errors and omissions that were found. She also told me that it is being corrected with the help of Ptaah and also the spiritual plane Arahat Athersata.

Because of some of the discussions that I read here, I complained to Mariann that the TJ we have right now is "male oriented" and she said that she actually already did get to read a section where the life of Maria is mentioned.

What still interests me is if the corrections are made to what actually happened or to what Judas Ischarioth wrote. Since Arahat Athersata is inquired for this it could quite possibly be the former.
Love makes the world go round.
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Sanjin and all,

I am excited by the fact that the Arahat Athersata are involved, thus providing a deeper and more thorough account and Teachings. This is very exciting news. Thank you for sharing.

Eddie
[7:-)
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Sanjin
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Post Number: 158
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Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, I forgot to mention that Maria is the German way of saying Mary.

Salome,
Sanjin
Love makes the world go round.
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Ramirez
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Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sanjin,

Which Mary ?

"Because of some of the discussions that I read here, I complained to Mariann that the TJ we have right now is "male oriented" and she said that she actually already did get to read a section where the life of Maria is mentioned."
Cheers.
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Sanjin
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Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm pretty sure that it's Jmmanuel's mother.
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Sanjin
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should something be done about this:

Falsification of the TJ
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Sanjin,

It is good, that they speak this non-sense in the affirmative and not as their opinion.

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Edward
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Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sanijn....


That site is already known to many here, and at the previous PAR group, in the
past.

It had already been looked into...


Edward.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 509
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Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know when the latest revision to the TJ will be released & in particular the English version? And even if it will be translated to English, considering I've read the Goblet of Truth will be the last book translated?



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http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2011/nr-58/talmud-jmmanuel

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