| Author | Message | ||
    Lonnie Morton |
Hi Norm, With all the negative energy coming from the Vatican, and with all the conspiracies they have been involved in over the years, I wouldn't be surprised if an original copy of the Talmud is hidden somewhere in their archives. My Opinion. Lonnie | ||
Norm |
Lonnie, Maybe they do, It would be interesting to see what Billy would say about that. | ||
Mario |
Hi Norm, Perhaps in Srinagar, India? Mario | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Everyone In Chapters 4 & 10 (Jmmanuel's Arcanum & Commissioning of the Disciples) of the Talmud of Jmmanuel there are a few passages, which are somewhat of a mystery to me. Chapter 4-Line 55: And he said to them, "Follow me; I will teach you knowledge and make you fishers of people. (Referring to Andrew and Peter the fisherman) Chapter 10-Line 1: He called his 12 disciples to him and gave them the knowledge for controlling the unclean spirits, so they could drive them out and heal every sickness and infirmity. 1. What actually occurred when Jmmanuel was recruiting his Disciples? Why were they so willing to go with him with what appears to be little resistance? (Chapter 4-Line 56 "Thereupon, they left their nets and followed him" 2. Were the Disciples somewhat more evolved then the majority of peoples during those times hence they were able to recognize Jmmanuel's message more readily? 3. Could it be that these Disciples were part of the "mission" and were waiting for Jmmanuel to show up? 4. What Knowledge did Jmmanuel actually give his Disciples? I thought that only Jmmanuel was capable of imparting healing powers to the afflicted? Has it been stated that his Disciples were actually involved in the healing of those that needed it? 5. Granted, those times were different then, and many people needed to be taught by demonstration then by words because many did not read or write, but doesn't the same implied rule apply? [One must learn to discover the truth by ones own efforts and cognitions, therefore only a true evolution can occur.] If anyone has any ideas on this I would like very much to hear them. Thanks Salome Scott B. | ||
Savio |
Hi Scott Would it be possible that the disciples were some of those 144207 "chosen ones" that promised to come and make up for their wrong doings? Regards Savio | ||
Lonnie Morton |
Savio, If they were among the 144,207 so called "chosen ones" that promised to make up for their wrongdoings, then they have much more to make up for, because, all of them except Judas could not comprehend the teachings to varying degrees. Whatever the case, the codex is no longer in effect. Scott, My take on some of this is: Jmmanuel knew many of the ones who became disciples even as Billy has known many of the Core group members from the area in which he lived. I don't think they were more evolved than anyone else, and it was only a small number of the total 144,207. It is the same with the Core group. None of them were people of any note in previous lives, mostly housewives and potters. I think this shows that ANYONE who strives to live by the Creational and Natural Laws and Directives CAN truly develop spiritually. And, these ones will be elite spiritual leaders in their future lives. Why start with the ones who are more highly evolved? They may be having a share indirectly with the mission in other ways, and will find their way to the Center in the future. My opinion. Regards, Lonnie | ||
Scott B. |
Hi Mario I saw your question in the "questions for Billy section", relating to the age of Jmmaunel at the time Billy, Jitschi and Asket visited that time period. If I'm not mistaken the time travel occurred around Feburary 14, 1956 back to the year 32 A.D., which would make Jmmanuel 32, just before the "crucification". I wasn't sure where to post this, but I hope you see it. Salome Scott B. | ||
Mario |
Thank you, Scott. In the webpage of James Deardorff, I saw that Jmmanuel was born probably around 6 AD, in the time of the census of Caesar Augustus. Then, if this is accurate, Jmmanuel was 26 years old when Billy met him. Let's see what is Billy's response. Thanks again, Mario | ||
Scott B. |
Hi Mario Thanks for the info, yes lets see what his real age was. Salome Scott | ||
TerraX |
Hello people.After reading more about the discovery of the TJ I was more or less surprised about the overall poor tactical scenario.The orginal scrolls were lost making it impossible to verify it's authenticity by several scholars and schools of thought.Only 2 persons made the discovery namely Mr Meier and Mr Rashid who tragicly was persecuted.All of this does not provide a solid basis on which to proceed in my opinion and because of that I wonder about the reasons for that.I can only come up with one. Greetings,TerraX. | ||
Norm |
TerraX, If I'm correct, there is a photo copy of the scolls in the British Museum. Meier & Rashid took them there to verify them. I'm sure others here know more about this than I? | ||
Scott B. |
Hi TerraX What type of proof would satisfy your quest for the authenticity of the scrolls? Salome Scott B. | ||
Savio |
Hi Norm & Scott I am glad to learn that "there is a photo copy of the scrolls in the British Museum" Anyone can provide further information? A website for the photo perhaps? Regards Savio | ||
JAY |
Hi All, Is there a possibility to add photos of these photocopies of the findings from the British museum to the FIGU website for further proof and strengthen our belief?? I think it would be a good idea for Mr.Meier to approve a good photo just like the Plejaran Beamship photo section of FIGU.  Be well | ||
TerraX |
Scott to answer your question I think carbondating would be a good first start.Second, analysis of the writing itself in its historical context by several scholars from different fields. What I was trying to point out is that in such a massive important document from the past there can be hardly any room for error or doubt.I think you all know how delicate most religions are and they will deny its truthfullness if not presented in a convincing manner. Regards,TerraX. | ||
Norm |
From what I gather, the Museum has them, but not for public viewing. They are probably hidden away like the stuff in the Vatican library. I wish some that knows the full story would add to this, I hate to add things that may be inaccurate. | ||
Scott B. |
Hello I'm not sure whether photocopies were actually made or not. When Rashid and Billy took these scrolls to the Museum, this occurred in the 60's. Whether this technology existed then I'm not sure, although its possible. There is probably more to this story then we may know about. I will try and do some digging and see what I can come up with. Salome Scott B. | ||
Mark Campbell |
Jay and the unknown X ; The problem with your insistence is that after you have your further "evidence" , you will need more , and more . Your "beleif" perhaps hangs on a thin thread ? It needs to be bolstered because you don't really make the connections that are necessary to go past a mere "beleif". A person can "beleive" in the tooth fairy , and all they need is a quarter under the pillow in the morning as evidence .All they need is more money to beleive , until they grow up. Religions as you say are "fragile" and will "deny" .... and this worries you ? I think your statement is unrealistic . Of course they will deny , just as certain as one church will authorize dancing and the other condemn it to such a frightening fate of judgement as you describe . My final question is , who cares what they say ? | ||
Jim Deardorff |
Hello Norm, Scott, Jay... I heard the story that there were some photos taken of the TJ scrolls at a British Museum (perhaps the British Museum in London) from Wendelle Stevens, twice now in about 5 years. I've quizzed him seriously about this, just a few months ago, and he insists that it's right, and that he's not gotten the TJ scrolls mixed up with the scrap of scorched paper with the Lyran writing on it. The way he heard it, Billy and Rashid were transported in Asket's ship to Britain soon after they discovered the scrolls. On the other hand, I've asked Christian to quiz Billy on this, which he did, recently. Billy told him that there is just no truth to the story. Bruni had told me the same thing a couple years earlier. So that's the way the matter stands now, as far as I know. Regards, Jim | ||
TerraX |
In regard to the TJ scrolls.I think it's all expertly written down on Mr. Deardorff's site.I was also trying to point out the reason why the TJ is not accepted by todays scholars,sadly some of you missed that.The answer to the TJ's current low profile is offcourse strategy! When you take into account that our Plejaran friends have shown the ability to foresee events, have the ability to time-travel and teleportation, than recovering the scrolls would not be a diffecult task.Therefore absolute proof is not a neccesity at this time. If the TJ would be fully recognised by the people of Earth, it perhaps would be to much to handle for many people. Regards,TerraX. | ||
Rita Keoughan |
Dear JP, One Roman emperor who was especially against Christianity was Marcus Aurelius (120 - 180 AD), a self-proclaimed pantheist (one who sees "god' in all of nature, in everything). He was named the "Emperor Philosopher", and his writings still exist today. He voiced his thoughts publicly against the religion that was beginning to gain a stronghold in his time and expressed his great sadness at what he saw coming in the future because of this religion. Reading his thoughts on life is like a breath of fresh air. If you do a search you will find his entire writings on the Net. Edith Beldi (FIGU Kern Group member) wrote an article about him in the "Stimme der Wassermannzeit" (FIGU quarterly publication) last year, also expressing her admiration for his writings. Salome, | ||
TerraX |
Hi JP.Just finished watching a program on the Discovery Channel called The Real Jesus Christ.The interesting part was the power struggle between Jakob and Paul after Jesus was gone.Paul basicly won this with the help of the Romans and made many omissions (lies would also be a proper word for it).Don't forget that the current Christianity faith is based upon the writings of Paul. bbl. regards,TerraX. | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi TerraX, all... I wish I had links or "concrete info" to what you and others have "brought up" since my last post in this topic. As always... things are not as simple as first perceived. Have been researching "Marcus Arelius" etc. Very interesting... Any more info anybody???? Thanx all, JP | ||
Scott B. |
Marc where are you?? Scott | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Scott, I'm here... Too busy responding to similar posts in the "Races, Racism..." area. Just didn't make it yet to the one you're alluding to with your question. The above post by José Barretto will be taken off the board. Comments like "NOKODEMION RULES FOREVER" and the posting of practically entire chapters of unrelated books and material is just not acceptable in this forum. To José Barretto: If you would like to continue with your user account, I would suggest you watch what you post from now on. Overzealous comments like the above which smack of religious overtones won't be published in this forum. If you need to discuss this further, please contact me by e-mail (marc.juliano@figu.org) and do not respond on this matter within this topic area. Marc Juliano Moderator | ||
Scott B. |
Marc You read my intent very well, thank you so much! Salome Scott | ||
JAY |
Hi Marc, Scott B, Jean and all, Yes Marc, we need to have this FIGU discussion intact and not go flying off into different directions, I felt exactly as everyone here, these guys walk in here and they post things which begin to fly off the PLEJARAN and the Mission's agenda. Thanks for intersecting the Jose issue as soon as you did Marc, we do not need added confusion in the part of any or all FIGU members on the board. BE WELL to All | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Jay, Thanks. My messages more or less clarified this fact and it was handled offline, so it need not be discussed any further here. It's a learning process for all involved and I discovered more about José and I hope he did the same with me and this board. Now...on to discussing the topic at hand: Talmud Jmmanuel-General information. BE WELL too, Marc | ||
Jose Barreto Silva |
Saalome! Figu Friends, Please, all of you who like to research about the life of 'Jmmanuel in India' check this site to read ancient documents that may well be proofs of Jmmanuel´s life In SRINAGAR - India They have a lot of very interesting texts - discount all religious talk of course - about the passage of Jmmanuel in India. The name of the site is "TOMB OF JESUS" http://www.tombofjesus.com/ancient.htm The site is similar to Dr. Jim Deardorff but seem from the point of view of Muslins. It´s worth to pay a visit. Saalome José Barreto Silva | ||
Jose Barreto Silva |
Saalome! Figu Friends JMANNUEL´S LIFE IN INDIA document Here is another interesting site where you can download a whole book about Jesus in India too. written by a Muslin Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian. well versed, well researched. Click here to check it out! More documents for our research http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/1340/jesus_in_india.htm José Barreto Silva THE TRUTHSEEKER - II | ||
Savio |
Hi Jim My email to you via the following address : "deardorj@proaxis.com" was rejected. Do you have another email address? Regards Savio | ||
Norm |
I did a rough translation from FIGU Bulletin #13. I cleaned it up a little but not much. I had a similar question on the TJ for Billy but I don't need to ask it now, and I know others here were wondering about this also, thats why I posted it. Reader question Talmud Jmmanuel, page 162-164: Wasn't it possible to arrange a time journey into the past in order to copy the scrolls before the sealing? Or is there nothing to be lost or known, are these texts not registered with Ptaah or in the Arahat Athersata Spirit level or in the Akasha chronicle Memory banks , in order to be able to be called up from there? Arthur usury/Switzerland Answer: At present the preparation of the scrolls these were taken over recording-moderately constantly by the Plejadiern/Plejaren and guaranteed thus, therefore this before the resin sealing was not still particularly necessary and why also no past journey was necessary for their surely position. By the translation of the scrolls by Isa Rashid as well as by the assistance of the Pleiaden/Plejaren the scrolls were in every detail revised by me and published then after Ptaahs of OK ONE for the pressure. The remaining material, which could not be translated by Isa Rashid any longer, is not of great importance, because it referred only to repetitions of the teachings Jmmanuels, which it spread in India, therefore practically no more largely or at all no damage developed by the destruction. The writings did not fall into the Israelis hands, but they were clearly destroyed, as Semjase, Quetzal and Ptaah clearly explained. And there it with the missing remaining material only around repetitions of teaching acts, its also not of any value to think over it still further; the really important material was still promptly translated and published as Talmud Jmmanuel. Billy | ||
Lars |
Hello Norm, This is very interesting what you have gleaned from bulletin.#13. about the TJ Apparently, Billy disagrees with what Semjase insisted was still of great import within the lost scripts of the TJ. In the 7th Contact:on 2-25-1975 Semjase had this to say respecting the contents of the "lost TJ scripts"... Semjase: "Because of his(Isa Rashid's) guilt all was destroyed. That essentially is also our guilt, because we confided too much in him and expected too much from him, by which the most worthy evidence was destroyed, which could have revealed some untruths in the Christian and other religions. But there still does exist a quarter of the scripture in the german version, and it will be sufficient to reveal some truths and free the human from delusion." Semjase said that there was the most worthy evidence contained within the lost portions of the TJ scripts." Has Billy forgotten her insistence upon this matter? In bulletin #13.Billy apparently is contradicting what Semajase said: Or was he advised to say what he did so that people would not pry into this matter for which then he could give no adequate answer? Lars | ||
Norm |
Lars, If it was that important they could transmit the rest to Billy and let him finish the TJ. They could even go back in time and save the scrolls from destruction by grabbing them just before they are destroyed, and give them to Billy. Just imagine if he had the scrolls in hand. The Religious establishment would freak! They could do this easily if they wanted to or felt they needed too. | ||
Lars |
Hi Norm, I agree with your estimations, But The facts here show from the seventh contact that Semjase thought the "most worthy evidence was destroyed with the loss of the scripts. evidence which she said could show some untruths in the Christian religion." Why Billy would say that the import of these "lost scripts was of no great importance." demonstrates that he must have forgotten Semjase's earlier explanation during the seventh contact; Or like I intimated that possibly Billy was advised to keep hushed up about the lost TJ scripts, because there was too much there which could'nt be answered at this time. Lars | ||
Savio |
Hi Norm and Lars When Semjase said "..... by which the most worthy evidence was destroyed, which could have revealed some untruths in the Christian and other religions" I think she meant the fact that "all the scrolls were lost" thus "the most worthy evidence was destroyed" not the untranslated parts were lost/destroyed, she meant that all those scrolls in a whole could have revealed some untruths...... While Billy meant the most important parts for revealing the untruths were translated. I would think there is no contradiction between Semjase and Billy. Regards Savio | ||
Lars |
Hi Savio, I can respect your position, not wanting to see a possible contradiction between what Billy says and with what Semjase said. But if you will take more particular note in these last words of Semjase respecting the lost TJ scripts,you will be compelled to see and admit that she is pointing out that the most worthy evidence was in the scripts that were destroyed by fire. and not in the remaining quarter version of the scripture left. One can see that Semjase is clearly differentiating between the two, as she said..... "But there still does exist a quarter of the scripture in german version, and it will be sufficient to reveal SOME truths and free the human from delusion." From this we can see that even minimal differences cannot be overlooked. The Plejaren's have always stated to Billy as a fact that minimal differences cannot be excluded or overlooked. With all due respect, I think Billy could have overlooked this earlier saying of Semjase and classified it as not of great importance, but this is typical of earth human reasoning, it still yet mostly overlooks and allows for minimal differences. This kind of reasoning must be recognized as faulty and discarded by earth humans, if they want to attain greater levels of knowledge and mastery. Just because Billy is an advanced spirit with a Mission does'nt mean he will not make errors and mistakes sometimes in classifying the enormous amount of material he has to ready and make presentable. Peace be with you, Lars | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hello Lars , Savio ; In investigative reporting there is an old axiom : I don't know what it is , but it might be something like this: Ok ,maybe not, then try this : I think you may be missing the relative meaning of what Semjase said ." The most worthy evidence " in this scenario must have been the physical evidence of the writings themselves , the scrolls ,or parchment. Proof , or evidence in this case would be the TJ itself , which could be subjected to carbon dating , or the ever popular dating methods as employed by s.h.e.i.l.d , c.h.a.os or any other leading fictional spy organisation . There was a venerable master who was teaching a student in the ways of the higher path . Likening the virtues of some particular aspect of his teaching to the moon , and pointing to it , the student stared at the masters finger . The master slapped the back of the students head and said ," Don't look at the finger , or you will miss all the heavenly glory ." I'm sorry , my fortune cookie must have had a small book in it today . Another aspect to this may well be overlooked ; you no doubt realize that if we are spoon fed knowledge , then our thinking will be stunted . What if the TJ was 4 times the size that it really was , and a quarter of THAT was missing ? Would you be unable to use the logic that you have learned and apply it to all things ? Don't get me wrong , it may be Commendable that you pay attention to such small Detail , and I don't recommend that you stop ; however the point of the TJ was never intended for people to get stuck on useless points of contention ; that is unless you are challenging someone to go back in time and do as you insist .....and then I ask you , don't you think they've thought of that already ? There must be a reason .And since this is so ; it might be incumbent upon you to try to figure out why . It always comes down to the searching and the finding . But good job fellas , good attention to detail . Have a great weekend - Mark | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Lars, You're exactly right: Billy is prone to mistakes just like anybody else. My opinion is that perhaps you can simply pose a direct question to Billy in one of the next rounds of questions to him. What do you think? Regards, Marc | ||
Marc Juliano |
Norm, Translation of German using online translators is fun, but of course, you always have to keep in mind that the exact opposite meaning can easily be derived. They may give you the gist of what's being said, but just be really careful with them, especially in a public format as the forum. If you now start to learn some German, even a little, you can begin checking the derived machine translation for correct word usage. This is one way you can gradually pick up German and improve your translations. Imagine, then, being able to translate the bulletins, etc., in full so everyone can read them! Example: I just finished a 2 or 3-page translation myself that was corrected by a Core Group (CG49) member and hopefully will appear on the FIGU web site in a couple of weeks after the CG49 reviews/approves it. It's titled "What the Plejarans Wish for the Earth Humans". I only took a year of German, but I spent a lot of time studying how existing translations were done. It's a good feeling knowing that you can contribute to the release of this information in your language, even if you're relatively new to German. Regards, Marc | ||
Savio |
Hi Marc In case somehow I can translate some German or English FIGU materials into Chinese, would you think that the CG49 members are able to approve them? Regards Savio | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Savio, You should always translate directly from the German, not the English. Let me ask FIGU if they're able to correct/approve Chinese translations. Marc | ||
Savio |
Thanks Marc, I think I better start learning German, however, I tend to forget what I have learned last week, that makes thing difficult  Savio | ||
Lars |
Hello Mark C, Marc J and Savio, Mark C, I wholly agree with you about the totality of the lost scrolls being the evidence that could have undergone tesing etc.you contributed some excellent points. Yes this would be a great Question to ask Billy about in the future. I hope it did'nt appear that I was being unduly critical towards Billy here? With all due respect to him still entact, I just thought really hard over what Semjase said during the 7th contact about the TJ and how she very clearly "differentiates between the evidence lost with the destruction of the scrolls, and with the existing quarter version of the TJ. It just appears very plain to me that Semjase thought there was alot of worthy evidence still on those scrolls which perished by fire which could have proven as she said, some untruths in the Christian religion and then she contrasts this with the quarter version.' What this evidence was the Plejarens must still know it, and I surmize that if it is that important, then somehow a portion of this evidence will resurface and be translated for the benefit of Billy, the world , and the Mission. Peace be with you, Lars | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Savio, I checked with FIGU. Unfortunately, they do not yet have a means of correcting/approving Chinese translations. Anyway, now we should return back to the topic of the Talmud of Jmmanuel. Regards, Marc | ||
Linda |
Mark, I wish I had some of your over-stuffed fortune cookies! I loved your saying myself. And I probably agree that fortune cookies don't spoon-feed, any more than any real teacher does. Linda | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hi Linda ; Thanks , but it was a scene from Bruce Lee's "Enter the Dragon ", in the first 5 minutes of the film .So it was the innovator of Jeet kun do , that didn't spoon feed , not really fortunecookie .I hope that my humor didn't offend anyone . . Credit where credit is due . Mark | ||
Norm |
This website has Dietmar Rothe's lecture on the Talmud of Jmmanuel that was given at the International UFO Congress last year. It has a lot of good charts and diagrams. THE KEY SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS OF JMMANUEL http://www.avilabooks.com/Jmmanuel1.htm | ||
Savio |
Hi Norm A very nice presentation indeed! Presentation with pictures is more easy to understand and in getting hold of those ideas. Thank you Savio | ||
JAY |
Norm, The Video documentation of the Talmud by Rothe is quite Excellent. I for myself decided to buy the lecture video a few months ago from the UFO congress to have as my collection. I totally agree to what the diagrams and the lessons he shows us are, he is a thinker who has found the right path to the Creational teachings and directives. My only observation to his presentation is one I do not agree and I will point it out here with just the example he uses for the HEAVENLY GENES section where he demonstrates a human of just white presence. I do feel that this is his personal taste alone and not others however he should have been a bit more diverse I feel in presenting the image of just one type of human an not all others. In the TALMUD it states: The ISHWISH who traversed the Cosmic distances created the White and also the Brown human races so in his presentation he should have been more open and more flexible in dealing with the human issue in the presentation. The TALMUD makes it very clear in many of the section Chapters, where Jmmanuel has been taken to these different Brown Human Races. In overall a enjoyed the view he has presented in a clear precise manner although revisions can be applicable as well for a better Human Diversion BE WELL Norm | ||
Norm |
Jay, That's a good point, but maybe he means the Ur race. In my studies I also came to the conclusion the Ur race is White looking, but that doesn't mean much when compared to Earth Humans except Looks wise. He also did state after that "Now that I have your attention, let me get to the more serious parts of the spiritual teachings." As it was just a joke, after all it was a Supermodel Heidi Klum picture, not just a regular white person. Does it really matter what color skin was first, not really. I only care as an amateur historian/archeologist. I hope we get something from Billy on this, who knows maybe the bald grey Zeta type is the original Ur humanoid race. | ||
JAY |
Norm, As an Archeologist which you are a part of, it would be great to see if one day we can unearth besides things like the TJ anything which is of Ancient Technology, meaning something which tells us of the Beamships who must have come here ages ago. I guess it all works out like Semjase has mentioned in the contact notes, any evidence left behind must have been disintergrated with a certain technology which they must have some advancement. Almost like the desert incident where she was I'm sure Rothe may have been at a point of "JOKE" here but as you and I understand the issues in America in reference to Humans and races, a presentation like that will bring about separation from its early stages of teachings. I just feel if you look at the TALMUD they do make mention of the Human type and all mentions of Brown races are metioned as well, almost like an even balanced format as suppose to the way we humans approach the world today. I also think it is neccessary to understand those issues very clearly, especially when you are dealing and presenting information here in America as well, I am sure in many other countres some of the issues of race may be scratch off. As you mentioned, I sincerely hope that there can be an answer from PTAAH and the PLEJARANS who are knowledgable of the race types on earth, we shall await an answer or chart to demontrate to us these human issues. I will still hold strongly to the ANUNNAQI theory in mind. BE WELL Norm | ||
Norm |
Jay, You should email D. Rothe, I'm sure he would interested in your feedback. | ||
Edward |
Hi Norm and Jay. I fine it very interesting what Rothe has put up. Nice presentations. Very good in details! Did a very very good job. Norm, if I am correct Marc once posted to you that the Ur-Race was Not the White race. He did not go in specifics. So, I would Agree with Jay. If One wants to Reach a Bigger Public...One should presentate..in a more broder manner...when it comes down to the Human Races..that exist in creation. If this does Not manifest... you can ran into...comments as jay has mentioned. Which I have seen concerning other subjects... outside this Board. Here is where Many.. Misunderstandings begin. And Prejudice...can evolute to. Alas. Jay, yes...you could make your comments known to Rothe. Edward. | ||
Norm |
Edward, I think Marc had a problem with the term "Root Race" which I took from Blavatsky. I do understand where you are coming from in this PC world. But I must say what does this mean? "Behold, humans begotten by the celestial sons were different in a unique way ... Their bodies were white as snow and red as the rose blossom ... and their eyes beautiful. The human lineages will now retain their inherited beauty and propagate it further.” [TJ4:28-31] Is it Dietmars faulty interpretation, Jmmanuel's or Billy's for not being PC sensitive to other humans of different color's. Would we be having this discussion if Jmmanuel had said the following, Behold, humans begotten by the celestial sons were different in a unique way ... Their bodies were black as the night sky and brown as the bark of a tree... and their eyes beautiful. The human lineages will now retain their inherited beauty and propagate it further. Somehow I don't think so, people have been so brainwashed by Political Correctness, that anything that isn't diverse enough gets rejected. So what if the Ur race was white, black, red or yellow, lets not forget those blue guys in the Himalayas . But I would still like to know. | ||
Edward |
Hi Norm. Yes, Norm I see what you mean. It would be very Correct if this would be asked to Billy Also. In the next question rond. For our clearifications. Yes, do that. Then you and all of us will finally Know. Edward. | ||
Norm |
Edward, That question will have to wait. I have about 10 questions ahead of that one. You could ask it if you want to. | ||
Norm |
I though some here would get a kick out of this. Since Maitreya has been mentioned on here before. Someone asked this question on Maitreya's forum. http://www.maitreya-edu.org/questionanswers/offans22.htm 29th Oct 2000: Question: - Dear Maitreya, I have read that "The Talmud of Jmmanuel" is the only record of Jesus' teachings written during his lifetime that contains the un-falsified lessons of the truth, knowledge and wisdom of the spirit. (A common-sense approach to the Bible, containing some stories the same as the Bible, others just the opposite.) It alone is claimed to be able to expose the untruth of the New Testament and to destroy in many people the madness of religion, or greatly temper it. Have you ever heard of this book? Do you agree with any of the above, or do you care to comment? An answer would be appreciated, if you have time. In Love & light, Tara. Answer: - Tara. There is no truth or untruth. Each soul has their own truth. I have said this before in my writings. What one soul finds true, another will mock. What another will mock, another will announce as truth. The only truth is what is NOW. All writings on Prophets' teachings cannot be taken as true or untrue, for in the past of Earth time they have been tampered with by religious people, and words have been changed by interpreters. What does the past matter? It has been and gone, it is no longer relevant. Even living in the NOW, and creating truth, your truth may not be another's. For each soul is in its own illusion, and the Earth plane is a huge illusion, humanity just cannot see it. Maitreya. I love his non-answer, he probably never even heard of the TJ! | ||
James the truthseeker |
Keep in mind Norm, This is so called "Channeled" information by a woman known as Margaret Birkin. I have a tendancy to have alot of skepticism toward channeling as I come across alot of this at Mount Shasta. As we all know about Edgar Cayce's channaling as being valid, I'm interested to here Billy's opinion of who is a real channeler and if there are any such people around at this time. I wonder if Billy has any info concerning the real Buddha Maitreya. Peace, James TT. |
