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Edward
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Norm...


Here are some interesting Links...Concerning Hitler's view on Christianity. Which I thought I did not have bookmarked. These are but a few.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
http://www.humanismbyjoe.com/hitler.htm

I hope the moderator does not mind these links, concerning they are Not Figu related.

Thank you moderator..in advance...:-)


Edward.

Hi Edward,
The posting of active links /new url etc... is discouraged unless FIGU related. The posting of a non active link, such as you did, is usually OK and allows a person to cut and paste the link into their browser if they choose. Thanks for your consideration-Moderator

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Norm
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Post Number: 604
Registered: 02-2000
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Edward, I would be willing to bet you money that that person wasn't refering to the TJ!

Hitler was just being PC, he wasn't going to attack Christians & Jews at the same time he would have been out of office in a week!

Hitler was going to replace the Cross with the Swastika on churchs in the future. This is well noted inside the Nazi Party, he would never say it in a speech or book.
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Edward
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Post Number: 299
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norman...

I do Not "Gamble".

If you have read the Links...you will come to more Understanding of Hitler and Christianity.

In the link it even "Explained" what you have posted -the Quotes-...which is called "Table Talk"...and Who was behind that all. Please Read...and Gain Insight of this matter.

The Links I had posted only "Verifies" what I had read in the past. Thus, explains it all.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 300
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shannon....


When we look at Isaiah.7:14, we can Notice That Magical Number of Great Value number "7"...again! And when we look at the number "14", it being an Even number and automatically Divide it by 2...we have "7" again!

So, I Remember Isaiah:7-14...just by remembering the 7...by Remembering that it is the 7 of the 7 layers of The Beyond/Other World, and just multiply it by 2, which makes it 14. And in most case...number 14 is also a number of Great Value..having 2x7 which greatens the value of 7 Twice as much. Thus..the Great Value 2x7 Is the name "I(J)mmanuel"!!

Seems that Jmmanuel's name was "Incoded" in the Bible...ALL the Time! And the Hint...is/was the number "7"...!(and work it out from there on)

So I can remember Immanuel being named/mentioned when I was still in junior "Priesthood" when I was very young, thus know now..where to find it again.

Thus, it was good that Isaiah.7:14 was mentioned some time ago to "Refresh'n", my memory in knowing where it was located. When I knew it was
mentioned in The Bible, when it was a subject when we then talked about it(Priesthood...:-(..).


Edward.
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Norm
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Post Number: 606
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's the guys name that was on TV I want to contact him?

Your going to have to point me to more than just two anti-religion websites to convince me! They hate the fact that Hitler was like them, and hated religion.

I have read enough books about Hitler to know where I stand on the matter.

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Edward
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Post Number: 301
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All...AND HOWARD!

Thus, Isaiah:7-14 Values:

Number "7" = The 7 Steps of Creation..(In General); The 7 Steps of The Ladder of Evolution, The 7 Layers of The Dern Universe, The 7 Layers of The Beyond/Othe World(as mentioned)...etc..; and what else have we not..in The Creational Process(ing).

Number "14" = The Great Value number of The Child to be Named "I(J)mmanuel".


Thus, Isaiah:7-14 Is:

"Isaiah: (7) The 7 Steps of Creational Spiritual Teaching(s) of the Laws of Nature and Creation" and (14) "The Birth of the Child named "I(J)mmanuel"..'The One With Godly Knowledge'...(2x7 Dubble Great Value!)"


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All...

Not to foreget The True Prophet Lineage:

"Enoch (Henok) and Elijah (Elja), Isaiah (Jesaja), Jeremiah (Jeremja), Jmmanuel and Mohammed...and Ofcourse...Billy!"...which also adds-up to that
Magical Creational Great Number Value of "7"! Which should be mentioned!


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 303
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norman...


It was just a moment that I happen to notice that The Passion was being discussed on a broadcast(on a channal - which they sometimes put in News
Flashes(some european) - just one of those flashes), thus did not manage to catch his name. If I knew his name..and which channal..I would have Surely asked him myself!


Well, those links are just of people who have their Own Opinion, thus I would not Stamp them so quick as being "Anti-Religion". It being named "Nobeliefs" would not mean they are Anti-Religion.(They could have.. Other Ways Of Life ...in an Other Directions - Nature, Universal Consciousness...etc...)
Thus, I would not - Jump To Warp-Drive - that quick Norman.

"NoBeliefs...is a Totally...Different Meaning/
Definition...than Anti-Religion!"

If you had read the link...the writer even mentioned he is not in no way into Religion and leaves it to everybody else to make their own decision. Thus his Research was as "Neutral" as posssible(as others that I've read)..as he also
explained. But again, I think we will not share the Same Thoughts on this matter...as I mentioned before.



Edward.
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Norm
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Post Number: 607
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Edward, Please don't tell me what I know I read! Those pages are by Humanists with an agenda.
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Pureharmony
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Edward, yes! When i was posting that, i didn't even really notice the 7/14 correlation! That makes it very clear.
My husband's parents paid for him to attend a very expensive Catholic school when he was young.
He told me that his teachers-nuns & priests did teach that Jesus real name was Immanuel! So anyone doubting that, well they can look/ask around and they will find the truth.
My husband clearly understands Billy and the Plejarans words. If he can understand, then i think anyone should be able to see the truth.
Hopefully.
*pureharmony*
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Mhurley
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IF that lineage of SEVEN prophets is correct, are we to assume that this is Billy's last incarnation as a prophet? and that his future incarnations will not be as a prophet?

Matt
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Edward
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Post Number: 305
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shannon...


Yes..."Correlation" was the word I was looking for! Good that you have mentioned it! This only "Polishes-up"...my Word-Vocabulary...:-)

And Yes...that is very True...concerning your husbands background. If One...in some way has...abit "Basics"..in this case from our "Priesthood" experiences...One would Indeed..Know and Acknowledge...the Links...in terms..to/in Jmmanuel's/Billy's Teachings/Materials.


Edward.
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Edward
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Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt...

If I am correct, we did once discuss your question...and did not have any results(as far as I know).

I can only Assume...that the "7"...in the True Prophet Lineage...would be the Lineage...(From Olden Times To..)of The New Age/The Golden Age - The Aquarian Age/Wassermannzeit -....which would/will be Fulfilled. As up till this
Time..; is the Pinnacle for much Upheaval in the Cycle of planet Earth and Humanity, and all Creatures - which may have even very negative Results/Consequences for our side of the Universe and other Life Forms - By Nuclear Confrontations!.

I would surely not close-out...that Nokodemjon's Spirit Form will/would reincarnate
in a New Lineage...but than "perhaps"...in an Other Cosmic/Universal Astronomical Sign(Zodiac).
("AY...TF"...has interesting information: Appendix A "The New Era Of The Aquarian Age".)

Thus, the Spirit Form of Nokodemjon would Indeed..Again make His way into the Capricorm Sign(and Further)...and reincarnate once again in a New Lineage of True Prophets(perhaps...again in a Cycle of "7" as this number plays a Great
Role and Value in the Creational Process(ing); if the Spirit Form of Nokodemjon decides to reincarnate anew and take New Tasks Upon himself. And Aid..Humanity Once again...Through Hard Times.

Thus, I would Conclude: That the Cycles above mentioned would "Repeat" itself..untill Humanity has No More Need in a True Guiding Prophet...and
live according to The Spiritual Teachings and The Laws of Nature and Creation...as it is intended to.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 307
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Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Shannon..All.........

By the way: When we calculate 7+14 = 21...and Divide by 3(from the 3 numbers - 7-1-4), than we get 7....again! 7 being...Again...a Positive number of Value = the letter "G" in the Alphabet = "Godly, Goodness, Graceful, Glorious....etc."


Edward.

Hello Everyone,

Just a reminder this area was initially setup with regards to studying the Talmud. Thanks-Moderator
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Howard
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Post Number: 49
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you analyse the NT, you will find that everything is based on the number 7. Or so I read some place at least. Ill try to find something more about this.
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Philip_george
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Mhurley:

Billy's present incarnation as a prophet will extend into the "7x7" format in this his last incarnation. So this means he will have 7 lives as a prophet, including this one. Six more after this all in a row.

But he will not appear at the Center until around the year 2700. This will be his last incarnation.

It will take a good 400 years for his information to be digested and accepted. Personally I think this figure is a bit short. But the future holds many things for us....
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Markc
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Philip ;

Could you share with us please where you found this information about Billy only returning to the center in the year 2700 ?

I think you may have misunderstood about the
7 -prophet lineage . As I iunderstand it , this is the LAST lifetime that he spends as prophet . The others are well documented . can anyone else corroborate ?
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Howard
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Post Number: 53
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this a prophecy or a prediction? And by the way, how could Billy figure out that 666 is the different sects that will show up in the future? here is some exellent work on nostradamus; http://ca.geocities.com/john9seguin/. The author of this page had an entirely another explanation of 666, i think it had something to do with the muslim kalifs to do.

Howard
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Larry_driscoll
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Post Number: 15
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,
From " Clarification of a Defamatory Claim", page 6:
....Enoch,.... Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jmmanuel, Mohammed, Billy, so I shall serve the people as prophet seven times...

From Message From The Pleiades, 2, page 363
Semjase..."The whole time will be about a 100 years. This year will be a preparing for your next coming in 2075." (Comment by me: Billy was born in 1937 and took up Contacts on January 28, 1975, assuming the same age for future contacts to start possibly he is to be born around 2037, i.e. 1937 + 100=2037 or 1975 + 100=2075)

From Message From The Pleiades,3, page 286,line 34:
Semjase... "Alone is allowed to be known, that after 800 years you will again be the centerpoint of your innermost group, as it exists today and will also exist then."
Larry Driscoll
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Truthseeker
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings,

I'm sure Billy had more lives then just 7 as a prophet. I seem to recall reading that Billy's spirit will reincarnate back again in 2075, possibly back at the center. Now as a prophet?, I don't know, but in the 251st contact we can read that a spiritual teacher will appear to teach more about the creation. According to the prophecies of Jeremia, Billy's present incarnation now will mark the final beginning of humanities understanding concerning the real teachings of all the prophets. As bad as our time on Earth is, humanity is now beginning to take its first steps on the path of reason. FIGU will be an ever increasing movement going now for 800 more years to when harmany and balance in nature will become a final reality. Women will become the caretakers of children, nature, the Earth and all existing beauty. The Earth will become pure. Men will compliment the woman as guardians of creation and nature in many different ways. Going past all of that, Billy's spirit will return back to his own homeworld in 3999.

-Truthseeker
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Howard
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Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why do we know so little about Isa Rashid?
I never heard anything else than that he was a priest who was lead by the extra-terrestrials to find the talmud, and later got the documents burned.
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Howard
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 05:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How does Billy and you people act to to the fact of the matter of the Gospel of Thomas? Thats another proof of the New Testaments credibility.
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Jim
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Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howard,

There are plenty of biblical scholars who believe that the Gospel of Thomas was formed after the Gospels came out. Not before. It is hard to conceive of one or more of the standard gospel writers having built contexts around each of the little sayings in the Gospel of Thomas to develop their gospels. It simply seems more likely that the writer of the Gospel of Thomas took the sayings he remembered from having read the Gospels, and placed them into his own gospel, along with some gnostic sayings that he liked.

In my opinion, he had also read, or heard of, some of the sayings from the Talmud of Jmmanuel, and incorporated them also, though in distorted form, into the GofT.

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