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    Joe Member Post Number: 133 Registered: 11-2008 |
Can someone please, if possible edit Mattopenminds' post number 31 because it's too wide? Thank you http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/5553.html?1286334244 | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 276 Registered: 07-2009 |
I haven't bothered to read that page since it was stuffed by that enlarged image. Too much hassle to read. I feel like that with other similar stuffed pages. Be good if the mods didn't allow them to go through unless they fit within the borders of the page. Most other forums have automatic size (width and height) limit restrictions for images posted. | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 539 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Joe, Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I have edited the images to fit the window and reposted it. We will try to keep an eye on oversized images, but every once in a while it could be missed. Darren, unfortunately the function of automatic resizing doesn't exist on this forum. Peace, Badr | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 525 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Ho everyone, Forum posts ..... sure let's get right on topic. Dropped in after 3 days absence without internet to find 6 new posts ..... 6 posts added in 3 days. Not sure if anyone has noticed a steady decline in active participation but it seems obvious there's a downward spiral of interest with no apparent end in sight. So what's the point and objective of a forum that hardly anyone contributes to ? If it gets down to say 1 post a week would that be the wake up call or defining point indicating there's a problem ? Cheers. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2053 Registered: 12-1999 |
Ramirez, The English Forum is still by far the most active FIGU Forum. Almost every day someone new is joining even though it may not be obvious. Many people do not post, but rather read what has been posted. Perhaps we need to encourage those not posting to become more active. If your implying due to some of the topics being closed off this is the reason for the decline in posts, what would you suggest? Scott | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 201 Registered: 01-2009 |
Greetings, How about an indicator that there is a certain number of visitors at any given time and also statistics of number of visitors, both for members and non-members? Sorry, even if I want to do it, I do not know how. Jun My will be done | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 278 Registered: 07-2009 |
Could part of the problem be too many restrictions on what people can discuss. We (and new people) are being told more often that that particular topic/question has already been discussed, and to use the search engine to find it. Also what happens when most or all questions relating to a certain topic in section area have eventually been answered/discussed. What do people talk about then? Personally (imo) I would like to see an area opened up where I can discuss current global matters with people from this forum, and not with people from other forums who are unfamiliar with the Meier material and the truth. I think this is important. | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 277 Registered: 02-2009 |
As Jun mentioned, displaying statistics about the number of visitors currently online & offline, their location(countries,flag symbol),year when first heard about billy, if possible how about display pictures with posts(ofcourse this will not make visitors 2 engage more)..variety is the spice of life... Anything that has a cause, will come to an end. - Jiddu Krishnamurthy | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 828 Registered: 07-2004 |
Darren has pointed out a challenging quagmire. This forum is dedicated to discussing a distinctly based subject, around people of a like-minded nature. Quite similar to the formula used throughout the net. People of a like-minded nature find these forums for their unique commonality, which allows them to approach topics that will be pre-framed by the forums foundation. A real strong point of why specialty forums survive, even if they have a small following. Having a discussion with fellow FIGU forum members, usually begins at a higher level of understanding because of the value in Billy's information. Starting a separate forum involves fragmenting, as well as downsizing, the level of combined knowledge, which would clearly be felt, discouraging the chance for success. Of course we can start another site, but it will almost surely become infused with the agenda-driven disruptors that like to cause falsifications to embed in the sites archives. We've seen this occur at English-FIGU, and that's with a fairly strict moderation. Any new site would almost be required to be unrestrictive in its measures, just to insure a better chance for its survival. In the case of the information we deal with, this type of scenario is not poised for benefitting the truth to remain truth-full. We have rules, and these rules have changed as the world changed. It can be complicated delineating what is truly helpful to the mission, its value to others, what it expounds for our future, etc., when making new changes. Seemingly innocent ideas could hinder this site if not well thought out. It comes down to what one focuses on in our society. Our world has been misguided by the control of the Earth-Humans mental focus with muddy information. English-FIGU has created a place for vetting out the purposely, less-virtuous participants. This, just by being filled with people who have researched, and decided, Billy's materials are the source of all other "knowledgeable sources", which are just cheap imitations. There's arguments for both sides. Value can be attained, I think, if the moderators are able to create these areas of discussion regarding daily world events, and, at the same time, be able to handle what will clearly become more work for them. There's an obvious need, there's an obvious challenge. And, there is the opportunity for someone to step up, and start a like-minded forum to have these "off-topic" discussions. I think, additional, properly worded in their title, topics, would be healthful, and beneficial. If, that is, we disregard the moderators increased workload. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Bodhran Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 08-2008 |
Hi all, in regards to this I would suggest reopening the questions to Billy answered by ourselves, there are many people waiting for the monthly date to come around to ask Billy a question, there are also many questions asked that get asked that have been asked before or that could be easily answered by members with advanced knowledge of the subject. I've been thinking that it's all very well saying to someone do the research yourself to find the answer to a question but that is essentially saying bugger off you lazy git..while this may be accurate it definitely does not encourage people to become involved in the forum and hence to discover more about the subject. There have been many times myself when I have been frustrated in using the search engine trying to find out an answer, it's not perfect by any means. If the trip to FIGU and talking with the core group members taught me anything it's that due to the incredibly small number of people in the world actually coming into contact with the message, everyone needs to be encouraged as much as possible to delve into the subject and if that means answering questions that have been answered before I think its a task that needs to be done, Billy's been answering the same questions for over 30 years and he's still doing it. If not reopening that topic then perhaps a reworded question topic where people can ask questions about the Billy/The Mission/ FIGU in general that can be answered by knowledgeable members who have the time and patience to reply or at least point people to the relevant posts more often than telling them to use the search engine which sometimes really does not find what you are looking for. Maybe I'm wrong but I think the mission needs to be attracting as many people as possible and making it as easy as possible to enjoy the forum and access the information therin. This site contains an incredible amount of information and it can be quite daunting to try and sift through the mountains of posts to find something. I would recommend a topic near the main page where questions can be asked and answered for people new to the subject. Whaddya think? Salome Tony. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 567 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Tony ; After being involved here for 10 years ,I would say yes, answer anything again and again , otherwise , those who came as far as this might be discouraged only because of someone's strict attitude on the matter . Mark | ||
Johnnybalmain Member Post Number: 118 Registered: 11-2007 |
Hi Tony, Re your post 126 I tend to agree with you. I feel this course of action could instil into the forum another way of energising curiosity and debate. Peace John | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 279 Registered: 07-2009 |
re-opening the "Non-FIGU Related - Miscellaneous" section would generate the most discussions but I think that might be asking for a bit too much from the mods.  | ||
Bodhran Member Post Number: 128 Registered: 08-2008 |
It would generate more discussion but I do agree with their stance that discussions should generally be about the mission, otherwise it would turn into a mini abovetopsecret which is really a load of nutters talking shite if you'll excuse my french.  Salome Tony. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 526 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Tony, "It would generate more discussion but I do agree with their stance that discussions should generally be about the mission, otherwise it would turn into a mini abovetopsecret which is really a load of nutters talking shite if you'll excuse my french." That seems to be the case but it's an occupational hazard not unexpected for our particular specialities which themselves are somewhat controversial and considered a load of BS by probably many. However also what might grate on various contributors nerves is the mysterious non appearance of posts meaning someone unknown intervened, canned them usually without explanation or recourse and that's that. So according to an unknown somebody your post is unworthy or off topic so simply fails to appear. Not exactly a strategy fostering encouragement of further participation is it ? How does Figu expect to spread the word when it's forum procedures emulate the tactics of big brother ..... censorship. That's the dilema, how to allow free expression and exchange of ideas whilst simultaneously filtering out or discouraging wild strayings into the off topic twilight zone ? What might help the current world affairs section along would be for Billy to release recent contact reports which Benjamin would probably translate fairly quickly. So with that strategy would develop a constant turnover of new and interesting information. Problem is the mission material is so fragmented, no index exists, newcomers are probably struggling to make sense out of approximately 170 reports so far translated into English and there is no study strategy meaning .... a recommended list of contact reports and other material like bulletins etc summarized into a coherent list which would give newcomers a broad overview explaining the basics. So few seem to bother with much of this nowdays, many prolific informed posters have moved on so where to from here ? Cheers. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 55 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello all, Ramirez posted something worth expanding on. quote #526 "...Problem is the mission material is so fragmented, no index exists, newcomers are probably struggling to make sense out of approximately 170 reports so far translated into English and there is no study strategy meaning .... a recommended list of contact reports and other material like bulletins etc summarized into a coherent list which would give newcomers a broad overview explaining the basics." I think the Creative-force is beginning to manifest itself. Your thoughts? Eddie [7:-) | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 458 Registered: 06-2009 |
Agree with Tony's views. Non FIGU discussion in FIGU forum would eventually turn this forum into yet another forum for conspiracy nutters. Not only that, it could give an opportunity to discuss political topics like we have seen in the past with Obama-bashing and heated discussion on RAP. The thin difference between censorship and just enforcement of the rule is that censorship is the action of preventing a set of behaviour whose legitimacy is debatable while in the former case, there is no case of doubt on the legitimacy of the action. Since rules 4 and 5 of the Netiquette clearly establish a rule to adhere to FIGU related materials, and discourage lobbying, such enforcements does not count as censorship. The Meier material is no doubt the most organised UFO/spiritual information if you read German with great support systems like various books, the German FIGU website and the FIGU Forum. No other single case has so much and so well-organised information. The English material, though only a fraction of the German material, are not too badly organised either. If a newcomer goes through the following materials, then there is no reason why one cannot be up-to speed in a few months: a) Light Years by Gary Kinder plus Preliminary Investigation Report and the Supplemental Investigation Report from theyfly.com b) Maurice Osborn's The Essence of the Notes c) Wendelle Stevens 4 volume of Message from the Pleiades from theyfly.com plus the rest of translated Contact notes, bulletins and special Bulletins from Future of Mankind and Ben's site d) Following the Forum, following Michael's radio shows and his other media appearances. e) Books like And Still they Fly, Talmud Jmmanuel and Goblet of Truth. When I became interested in the case, I did the mistake of not noting down the doubts that I was having. By the time when I joined the forum , more important doubts came and the older doubts were forgotten and lost in the sea of more important information. Releasing recent contact reports would surely help drive interests, but it is too much for Ben alone to go back and forth along with his current translation goals. It is not the case that English translated material are all exhaustively covered in the discussions. For example, there can be interesting discussion on the translated part of the Goblet of truth alone. But it is doubtful if the forum would be able to produce 40 posts a day like it did a year before because of the closing of the Current Earth Event section. A fair use of that section would have been ideal. Time will tell if the forum would reach a balance of quality and quantity. "So few seem to bother with much of this nowdays, many prolific informed posters have moved on so where to from here ?" You hit the nail in the head Ramirez. Most prolific posters have assimilated most of the English language materials and some have moved onto the German forum in quest of more information, some are learning German, some are actually aiding the mission in their own way like launching their own website, some are campaigning against overpopulation, some have become passive members, some have developed one-to-one contacts with fellow members and are answering each others questions through personal mails or some are just going through a busy period in their life. These are normal things. The proven contribution of the forum to encourage its member to learn more and/or to contribute in the mission underlines the success of the Forum over the years. IMO it's perhaps just a coincidence that a lot of previously prolific posters have become dormant at the same time these days - being subjected to one or more of the above conditions, combined with the lack emergence of new ones. Salome. Suv | ||
Bodhran Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 08-2008 |
Hi Ramirez, I realise the irony of what I said, from others point of view we are also the nutters but at least we are focused nutters. Comedy aside I would imagine it is a tricky business trying to have a working forum which is essentially about the truth of everything in existance as related by the Plejaran to Billy, both of whom in the contact notes will not entertain fools or distractions to the mission, I suppose that is the track that the moderators are trying to keep to and rightly so ,but you are right in that in doing this it may hinder participation in some ways. I agree with you about the difficulty for newcomers to access the information, I had to search for torrents to find everything I wanted to read about initially. I think that a site revamp with something akin to the futureofmankind's access to the contact reports and the rest of the information would be great and lead to a lot more sensible discussion on the forum when the information is right there to study then ask questions about. Of course someone would have to do that and that costs money. Salome Tony. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 280 Registered: 07-2009 |
btw, has anyone else noticed a sharp increase in posts (lasting for 1-3 days) every time someone raises this low forum post count issue? | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 281 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Tony, That was more of a joke I intended before. Actually I partly agree with you that re-opening the "Non-FIGU Related - Miscellaneous" section would open the doors again to nutters. I think it was right for the mods to close down that section back then, but that was then, and this is now. Theres a different crowd here now. Also, no offence to Dyson, but now that his not here anymore, we now don't have his enemies here to worry about who used to deliberately cause trouble and derail things. Perhaps the moderators may consider a "trial" re-opening of that section or some other, and see how it goes for a little while. p.s. These are just ideas I'm putting out here. I'm not trying to force the mods to do anything. | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 156 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hi Darren, I think the moderators should have the "Non-FIGU Related - Miscellaneous" section open three weekends of each month. Not have it open on Monday thru Friday. But, it is up to the moderators. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 527 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Darren, "btw, has anyone else noticed a sharp increase in posts (lasting for 1-3 days) every time someone raises this low forum post count issue?" Appears to be a valid observation. The force is with us .... well for a few days at least  Ask and ye shall receive .... something. Thanks Suv .... some new links to explore and this one is well organized: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Essence_of_the_Notes That's what it's about, helping each other out, answering questions, offering leads, posting opinions ..... sharing information. Either it flows or doesn't but if active steps are continually taken to restrict it then soon appears the inevitable drought. There's not that many places where those capable of thinking for themselves congregate so let's ensure that this oasis remains active. Cheers. | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 08-2008 |
I agree with Smukhuti: "Most prolific posters have assimilated most of the English language materials and some have moved onto the German forum in quest of more information, some are learning German, some are actually aiding the mission in their own way like launching their own website, some are campaigning against overpopulation, some have become passive members, some have developed one-to-one contacts with fellow members and are answering each others questions through personal mails or some are just going through a busy period in their life. These are normal things. The proven contribution of the forum to encourage its member to learn more and/or to contribute in the mission underlines the success of the Forum over the years." You could not have said it better pal. I personally prefer now to digest well the posts, before posting anything back to the forum, whereas I don't have yet the original books to study from or to refer-to when posting, to back my postings. So like me, many I'm sure are in read only mode, learning every single day, from the many lessons life has to offer. Just permanent mindful meditation alone (being attentive of every thought every second of the day, while doing any of the daily life activities) is good enough effort on which to focus, so one day, we will know enough about ourselves, before we are able to offer any good kind of help to others. This all can be done without posting anything to the forum. I don't think figu is stagnant or anything of the sort. There are oceans of info to digest already available in German and English .. and I am sure many (like me) are going through that vast amount of information. Salome Carlos -- Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form. Quetzal: Das will ich tun. |
