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Markc
Member
Post Number: 113
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 05:24 pm: | 
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Hello Anonymous ;
I can only wonder if you notice for a moment that you are undermining others who are voicing their opinions ? Although , most people with a sense of humour love the Stooges . Perhaps it was a compliment .
By now , I understand that if it is the wish of anyone to wax religiously , then it is welcomed here as much as any other post . Also understood is that if someone wants to challenge that opinion , it is also allowed .
And now for my next question :
Which contributors are you referring to ?
I can only assume that you estimate yourself as the most constructive contributor , insults and all .
In all sincerity ,I hope your mood improves !
rest easy ; Mark Campbell
Hello Everyone,
As you can see I have moved a number of posts into this section, which hopefully affords a more conducive environment to resolve this underlying antagonism which seems inevitable between certain members of the forum. While in life differences of opinion are natural and needed it is often hard to read between the lines when body language, tone etc. are missing from the equation. This therefore makes it even more pertinent to express oneself clearly and to realize what is it the other person is trying to communicate, or not communicate. I think a more constructive approach would be to ask questions about statements a person has written, rather then making blanket assumptions. Possibly asking a question will allow the person to rethink what he originally wrote, and give him time to think about what he was trying to say. This then puts the ball into his side of the court, which may help his own evolution.
Lets have a peaceful new year-Thanks Moderator
Mark Campbell
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 361
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 10:53 pm: |
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Hi Who ever you are... Anonymous....
Your commenting: "It seems to me you fail to live up to the standards of
being adults."
Well if I may say so: Please start at your self and give us your true name
than to HIDE behind "Anonymous"!
Please do not Judge the Situation if you do Not Know...The Facts!
Thus, Do Not Be Judgmental...Please!
Edward. |
Jeedi
Member
Post Number: 30
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 09:04 am: |
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Hello Edward,
Perhaps you should spend some time on the meditation string on this forum? Claes has just posted an excellent piece there.
Being strong minded is not only controlling thoughts, but also being a good observer. Anonymous is not so anonymous to see (JEC) if you are paying attention.
Anyway for me, "It is of little importance WHO said it; rather it is more important WHAT is said." -- nobody
Best regards,
Anthony |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 362
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 03:53 pm: |
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Hi Anthony...
If you were paying attention..; I asked the "Name"!
Not..the initials!
I see you had not followed this string! If you did, than you would have
known what this was all about.
Edward. |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 114
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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I hope we can move past alot of those things that held us back before , personal grudges that existed in the ether between people that have never met .
I would rather shake the hand of those who fault me and thank them for their observation and opinion , and perhaps they can learn something from what I've said also .
In addition , I'm not in competition with anyone to be the top contributor . Just be the best one and we can all enjoy it . If I have anything good to say , I hope it goes in harmony with what others are thinking also .
As far as religious rantings , I think we can approach this in a much different way ... even if it means not approaching it at all .
Thank you kindly , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Claes
Member
Post Number: 61
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 03:51 am: |
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Forum dicipline,
Like you mentioned before Jeedi about beeing selective with our posts.
I think that we should all contemplate & let our minds, brains, consciousnesses process what we have read and perhaps wait until the next day (or at least take a break) to write a response after reading the post again. Especially if the post touches ,or upsets us.
And then read our posts several times before we post it, to be as clear as we can be at this time.
Andrew C. Cossette wrote something in September 2001 which I think is worthwhile repeating part of that message:
“May I please further suggest to all Passive Members reading this/my post that they read (again) the essay Talkativeness and Missionary Work. It holds a very important bit of information that applies to this Forum, as well as other situations, not to mention the fact that it (the main lesson) can be practiced by all human beings in their dealings with others.”
I feel for my self that I need to reread this text every now and then, and try to improve my communication skills and not to push my ideas onto another.
thanks for listening,
Salome,
//Claes
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Der_beobachter
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 05:23 am: |
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Hello Annonymous, Howard (Comment Deleted) and everyone
Who is afraid of The Truth??? Annonymous/JEC????
In first place I do not use to post many postings in this respectable forum so often.
In second place no one of you knows me enough to call me one of the three stooges because if you knew me enough you actually would be one more of the many friends that I made here at this forum.
The reason why I do not post a lot of messages here is the following when I want to ask something for somebody regarding the mission I ask it directly to my friend Mr. Eduard Albert Meier by normal air-mail by means of letters I write with honour for him to be read by himseld therefore I do not waste my time hearing/reading the nonsenses that this Mr. Howard uses to write here in this forum in all of possible and imaginable sections of this Figu forum he writes he nonsenses in every single one of them pestering the Mission with his preacher like and anarchic church talk.
Mr. Annonymous you do not know MR. EDWARD that for me is one of the most intelligent, wise and The Mission aware I ever met and also a very good good FRIEND (with capital F) of mine!!!. You do not know me either.
I hope Mr. Billy Meier will soon ( and as soon as possible) will publish my texts regarding the church then this will stun the world and people like this Howardian person.
I did not know you did not like Nietzche well I like Nietzche and the Three Stooges the best ones the Planet Earth ever had. Hey Curly, Hey Moe. Hey Shemp...Hey Joey... Joey Barreto....lol, lol lol from Brazil heh he heh...antihoward. and antichrist indeed....
I am not religious by the way and a question for you what do you fear so much and why do you not use your real name and always post as Annonymous? Do you fear something? Do you fear those hard heads that peek/peer on this forum?
My words in my posting were not directed to you JEC this Annonymous person but to those people - those bugs´s eyes out there - because I know they observe this forum for years by now, my words were directed to them and especially to Howard who himself mnust be one of them evil men from secret services - a real Man in Black Cassock who comes here to anarchize this forum with his wrongful and delusional church talk. The best thing I can do is not to listen, or read his postings anymore because it is people like him who undermines the Mission not me Mr. Annoymous.
And I tell you more when I was a kid - I am 45 now, the TV show I loved the most was The Three Stooges. oh Man how I love to watch them stooges until today LOL LOL HEy Moe!!! Hey Curly heh heh heh!!!! Hey Shemp...see it? Take that!! Poing!!!!
Now the Three Stooges for me is The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Yeeech!!!! The Three Stooges of Lies!!!
This whole planet is full ( fool?) of Howardian like personalities Mr. Anonnymous and I do not know if I like to speak with someone Anonnymous why anonnymous? You really must fear those fools out there! I do not fear anyone that is why I will give you my full name here : Jose BARRETO Silva without fear of church evilman of freemasons or CIA or whatever or Pentagon!
Got it?
And man if you only knew the mess I caused here in my country you would faint....and fear very much...antichrist is the name they call me here in Brazil.
Now I figured it out who you called Three Stooges got it Edward, MarkC AND myself...]
Moe, Curly and Joe heh heh heh or Moe Shemp and Curly I love you guys!!!
Do you want to know where I want to see Christianity and the rest of all these world fake and irrational reliogions?
ALL SWEPT off the face of Planet Earth!!! This is my TRUE and sincere wish I do not hide or keep my name Annonymous!
Der Beobachter Edelweiß
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Der_beobachter
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 05:49 am: |
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This is more important for me that this (Comments again Deleted!)
Der Beobachter, Why must you continue to fan the flames against JEC and Howard?, Enough is Enough!, anymore and your entire posts will be deleted!-Moderator
THE SITUATION OF THE EARTH: The situation on earth is threatening in many different aspects: overpopulation, military systems and weapons industries, pollution if the entire world through poisons of all types, radioactivity, crime, power politics, drugs, false religions, global mismanagement in every resort, financial exploitation, misuse of chemicals and poisons, terrorism, racial hatred, slave-trade, prostitution, anarchism, mad exorcisms of the dead, spirits or other demons, war activities, and revolutions, etc,. etc. What can be done? First and foremost, the human population on earth must be reduced, through a humane form of a worldwide suspension of births, with an immediate follow-up of permanent birth control.. If these two measures are not enforced to keep the number of humans on earth in bearable limits (529 millions should be the normal number of inhabitants on earth), the problem will increase infinitely, grow in equal ratio, and become unsolvable, as the human population increases steadily. By the same token, the elimination of various ravages, according to their cause and effect, is an irrevocable necessity and most urgent requirement.
The Plejarans themselves suggested that the following important measures be taken to end the destruction of earth.
-As mentioned for several years there must be an absolute birth suspension followed by permanent birth control.
-Immediate end of ALL exploitation of the earth, including the exploitation of the forests and the devastation of entire landscape, etc., until a bearable, acceptable level for earth has been reached.
-Stop of production of all illegal drugs and other drugs which are made for abuse, as well as chemicals and poisons that damage nature and life forms through their misuse.
-Destruction of all nuclear power stations.
-Stop of mismanagement of any type.
-Abolition of false politics and religions in the current forms, which are adverse to nature and Creation.
-Formation of a global government in a unified democratic format.
-Dissolution of all military blocks leaning toward war, and political and military secret services
-Dissolution and prevention of all war activities and revolutions, etc.
-And end to all torture and capital punishment and all other abuses and ravages which burden and harm earth and life on it.
-Formation of a worldwide team of security and safety agents to protect and join nations; the team would consist of members from all existing peoples and races on earth.
-Global dissemination of Creation's laws and commandments and the learning and adhering to the ensuing lifestyle. These things would create a lifestyle according to the rules of Creation and, therefore, a more humane and dignified life.
-Worldwide support and execution of plans to make amends for all the damages caused already to the land, forests, meadows, water, atmosphere, plants, humans, animals, and micro organisms is mandatory.
Der Beobachter Edelweiß
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Jay
Member
Post Number: 247
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 12:01 pm: |
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Der Beobachter (Amigo  )
Do not worry your little heart so much on what goes on with others here such like Anonymous, he is going through his own evollution at this time. They can all rant and rave to they bleed through the mouth and it will not change the way our great PLEJARANS and Billy have given ALL predictions and prophecies. Christians alike will NEVER be able to duplicate this either so I would not worry myself over some or ALL religious users here on the FIGU board, they are a bit open minded at least to get injected with the "FACTS" of the MISSION. Let them be amigo and they will see for themselves the outcome of all of this.
Jmmanuel stated that not all in the near distant future will follow the teachings & Science of CREATION but only a small few will listen to the future mission and prophecies/predictions, etc. etc.
Amigo.. don't stress yourself and inject them more and more with Common logic and common sense.
Love yaah Amigo and take care
Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Howard
Member
Post Number: 120
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 01:27 pm: |
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Precious Der Beobachter Edelweiß, I find your posts quite humoristic! You dont have a sense for honest critique, slandering me for being a Men In Black is just sensationally idiotic and laughable! LOL! If you really want to wipe the earth for religions, I think you should start with yourself. Your obvious guru and leader, Billy Eduard Albert Meier, is absolutely worthy of critique! Sensational stories presented as the True Truth, is quite questionable. As one can say; If a claim is highly unlikely, it usually is.
"I hope Mr. Billy Meier will soon ( and as soon as possible) will publish my texts regarding the church then this will stun the world and people like this Howardian person." I SERIOUSLY doubt that Mr.Meier will publish your writings, if that was the case, he would "stun the world" making a fool of himself.
Yes, I have been observing this forum for a couple of years, but to call me negative names and put me into categories, is exactly a thing "evil men" do, MR.Antichrist(HAHA!!!)
I think this material can greatly confuse ones thinking, since all of this today is pure speculation, especially the historical teachings, and further create delusive thinking which is enslaving the ability to be realistic in view of todays science. It can also be a cause, to being "afraid of the truth".
And, preaching and the biblical truth, if I am allowed to mention such things here, is something which can be observed, by witnesses, and experience incredibel things, not only by belief, but because of, in my opinion, an extra-ordinary power outside our-selves. You dont have to meditate endlessly to experience these things, its to damned simple for us idiots to understand.
Goodbye my friend, open your eyes,
and remember, everyone can be saved, even you ;) |
Truthseeker
Member
Post Number: 65
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 03:54 pm: |
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Greetings to Moderators and everyone else,
I must say that for some time I've decided not to post here for awhile because I've had my own share of arguments and misunderstandings with some other FIGU friends last year in 2003 on other forums, BUT I'm also pleased to say that these same people to this day remain as friends, if not even more so as better friends.
I am however disappointed to see that after all this time of not been here, there are still arguments relating back to Howard and others with their expressed opinions of Christianity. Personally I've said all I wanted to say to Howard and others like him, and that was a long time ago. I feel I don't have to say anymore as they can always go back and re-read mine and other peoples posts. Likewise I also feel that Howard and such have by now made their own points clear on this forum and should not feel anymore need to pursue it any further and yet it still goes on. Why?
Ok, I can understand religious tolerance of others no matter how much a person may disagree, but why all the Christian persistence is beyond me when it should be clear by now that people here are going to stay with FIGU views as much as Christians persists with their own views. I feel there is a distinct difference between discussing Christian views in relation to FIGU as apposed to Howard and other Christians pushing their views on this forum. That alone pushes my tolerance level further away from Christianity, as I'm sure others here feel the same. In my view this is a FIGU forum and therefore it's FIGU space. In simple terms, we don't worship Jesus here as the son of God and that's that. People have the right to believe what they want to believe, YES and that also means not going into other peoples churches, temples, mosques, synagogues, and FIGU forums to push ones own Christian Bible beliefs. From my own observations, FIGU and the Plejarans have an expressed concern for the future of humanity and this planet and in many ways this does involve Christianity for what should be good obvious reasons to everyone. My own studies of anthropology would thus confirm that most religions as a whole, including Christianity, lack human tolerance and that in itself is why I could never go back to being a Christian.
As a further note to the moderators and FIGU passive members, I have a few added suggestions for people new to this group. Actually for everyone here for that matter. I think all new people coming in here should take an "on line FIGU exam or test" based on all the information presented at the FIGU website. Then if they pass with an 85% or above, then they have achieved level 1 status, and only then do they get the privilege of coming onto the forum. From there, people should be expected to do their research, which includes learning the art of independent thinking and read much of FIGU's required material. When completed this, then they have to take yet another exam to achieve level 2 status. Now with level 2, people are eligible to becoming if they choose "FIGU passive members", where they can now receive the spirit lessons, do some active work for the mission and learn German as a requirement for taking a further exam to achieve level 3. From there they graduate as active FIGU members where they can go to Switzerland to receive their FIGU diploma. With a FIGU diploma, they can now strive to become a part of FIGU's core member group along with being a part of the OCT team, and who knows maybe even earn the privilege to one day meet the Plejarans or another group of ETs for that matter who are closer to our own level of spiritual evolution. Now that in itself should really give people a real goal and a real good reason to really strive for the mission.
Hello James,
Perhaps you should write to the Center with your ideas. Thanks-Moderator
Some real thoughts on the matter,
James Truthseeker |
Jeedi
Member
Post Number: 33
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:06 pm: |
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Hi Howard,
And to think at age 22 I was on my knees praying to God hoping for a maracle. I like your style, Slayer dude.
I just hope when you get to my age, 37, that you realize that only you can save yourself and your world.
Kindest regards,
Anthony |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 115
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:02 pm: |
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Hi Friends ,y hola Jose mi amigo ;
As a former internetucalor pugilist , I can see this all from a better perspective now .
"In the Red shorts ,weighing 145 lbs"...... and so on .Both sling their arrows .
There's Jose , really passionate about the Mission and takes insults to Billy Meier personally ,and here, here , so have I , How-ever , you don't see Billy or the moderators throwing their weight around, instead choosing to be neutral to the fray . I see this as the better example .
In my business we have a few animals that we have to deal with in the magical forests that I inhabit . There are the 'passive aggressives ' who pick the nastiest insults and throw them to people like me who work in the environ , planting my magical ideas through the ears of those who joyfully listen or don't , and then there are the malcontents who don't like to go out , don't like people , don't like music , and most of all , hate to drink but are strangely addicted to it .
My point is that they will try every trick in the book to get under our skin when we're working , and if we take the bait , we look like fools or amateurs .Remember it's not these types that build a reputation , theirs is to destroy . As long as they can anger you , they have done what they intended to do .
While it's not in my intent to build a reputation here on the forum , we do so anyway , for better or worst . I bought a computer just so I could vivist the FIGU forum a few short years ago . I am still new to the medium . Common sense has grown within me and I see their blasting of Billy to be quite harmless and rediculous . They are allowed to commit sharp and fierce words about Billy and the Mission and I found it odd , I wondered why . I knew that the moderators were up to something , that Billy's influence , being far reaching , had teaching by experience behind it .
The answer my friends is quite simple you see ;
really not so much of a mystery .
The fangs of a wolf are a sight to see , better yet if they're not on me .
The fires of hate don't prove a thing , showing hairy ignorance and depravity .
I hope you take advice from me , and Paul McCartney to Let it Be ;
Use our detergent for a cleaner wash ......OK , I lost the vibe completely , but you get my meaning .
I know that every once and a while one of us will feel the need to rise up and quote .. " Mr. Bat ,who flies with blind luck , enjoy while you can my blood that .......you suck !
Did you see the one where all Three get a job together and keep hitting each other all the way through from start to finish ?
Yeah , that's the one !!!
MC
Mark Campbell
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Jeedi
Member
Post Number: 35
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 07:01 pm: |
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Hi James T.,
Good to see your wisdom here again. Like you, I'd just love to make contact with some kind of aliens a bonus to spiritual growth on this --"did not study for big test final semester exam" -- planet. Ya know, I would take the worst job on the ship, mop floors take out trash, or whatever to prove to them that I can be a great spaceman/spiritual teacher-student/explorer/dude....
Anyway, I'd be honored to be a part of your working crew anyday aboard a starship.
But I don't think people should have to take a test to earn a privilege to post at this website. I really look forward to Howard, Anonymous, Der Beobachter, and all the people so inclined to talk about Billy here on this forum. I learn something (and entertained;) from EVERYBODY. I especially love Mark's elephant gun sparrow soup on the menu today humour. Great stuff!!! And personally, I think Howard is as sharp as any of the hard core Figu people. Ya just have to wait for him to find his game.
So I don't vote to take a test to be here, I just want to practice self-discipline on my own.
Best regards,
Anthony
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Markc
Member
Post Number: 116
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 01:24 am: |
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Hey Anthony ;
It's good to see you around here again .
I forget that everyone on the forum lives in different parts of the world , and mostly at this time , in places where there is not much sunshine . This can affect moods drastically , so I account for that since I cannot hear voices or see faces to determine what might be the trigger for anger or discontent between people , especially strangers who have never met .
I particularly see no point to take on the same tone as I did before , because much was said , to no effect . I joined in for a breif comment recently , intending to lighten the mood , just a joke really , since everything gets so dire and intense in these exchanges .
Most of all I wanted to wish everyone a good journey through their everyday lives , because not being personally aquainted with each other , we miss minute social cues that are missing on the outer-net. Inter-action is spotty at best in this scenario , and being in proximity can really give one's commerades a sense of where they are in life ; whether they have had a change in their personal life , loss of a loved one or job , or similar disruptions .
I noticed that Anonymous posted a perfect questionnaire to another forum participant , that has been long needed . I sense that his approach to this individual is sufficient , appropriate and balanced for it's purpose . I would hope that everyone else can see the logic behind letting this line of communication take it's course without interruption . Otherwise , a fracas can stil break out , and what are we all doing here if not learning how to control our emotions , egos and personal viewpoints ?
I agree with you , Anthony , on practicing self discipline alone . Contributing to the forum is a good thing when it reaches into the teachings and focuses on the many gems within it .
I'm just a student of it and not in any competition with anyone else in serving the mission .
I would also hope that those that are doing the majority of communication , information sharing and teaching will not let it go to their heads and condescend on others who are just casually commenting on topics .
A human being cannot assess the evolutionary level by the posts of others and assume that he is higher simply based on the intellectualism and seriousness of his own posts .
A sense of humor is essential to human happiness , whether it is written down somewhere or not .Sometimes my best contributions are just in "keeping it real (which would mean inserting the human element, in this context) ", as they say , and if it contrasts with someone else's culture , I can only offer a general patent apology . Being one's self is allowed here, I think , and now that I think about it , I think it again .
This is , like it or not , the tone of American culture in which I have grown .
The English had Shakespeare , we had Mark Twain .The Europeans had the Rennaissance and we had the Wild West .
Getting upset because someone makes disparaging and religious remarks aimed at Billy and the Plejares is evidently a lesson in itself .It doesn't bother the 'cheifs', so it should not bother us 'injuns' . If everyone involved will look back at how pointless our exchanges were ,that's where the lessons on the path of human understanding really are . It does not embarrass me , but I know that can do much better . I think I'm a better man for it , for what it's worth .
Can I go now ?
Mark
Mark Campbell
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 364
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 02:00 am: |
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Hi Jose My Good Good Dear Friend...
Very Wise Words you have spoken that come from your Heart and from
Deep within your Spirit. My Many Thanks to you for being a True Human Being
and Understanding All that is happening around you.
I Love your very "Direct" Words of Wisdom, which reminds me of a very very
Wise and Conscious Spiritually Human Being that had the name of "John The
Baptist". He too was very very much like you Dear Good Friend; they who
persecuted him named him a "Loud Mouth", and so they killed him. He, John
The Baptist, must Not be forgotten; it is because he was one of the Great
True Small Prophets that "Dare" to Tell The Truth to it's Fullest! And LOUD
AND CLEAR!!!
As it is a pity, that, still, even now, many are still Not Open for True
words of Wisdom that speak from Within. And there is Nothing, that can reach
that degree of speaking with "Power" from within the Spirit. I Too, am a
Loud Mouth as you, and I am very Proud to speak in such a manner. As John
The Baptist has done also. As, John...must Not be pushed aside, as he Too,
was a part of that Great MISSION, assisting Jmmanuel.
Let yourself speak Jose, Wise Spirited ONE. Speak with the Wisdom of The
Teachings, do not Care for those who Think and Speak with the "Illogical"
egos of today. For they, who do Not understand Your Wisdom, were also the
Ones...that Did Not Grasp and Comprehend the True Wisdom of John The
Baptist. As even that of Jummanuel, and even, that of Billy today.
Speak Aloud to them that are Deaf, Dumb and Blind. Speak with True Power in
your voice as John did. This is the True Drive that speaks with Conviction,
which is the Basic of True Creational Power Of Truth. So, they that "Behead"
you, are truly Beheading Themselves; robbing themselves, from gaining
Knowledge, to their Head...which is the place and Home of the Spiritual-
Consciousness...in the Human Beings. So, let them Behead themselves. If they
choose to do so.
"The Hare always thinks that he is faster than the Tortoise. But in the end,
it is the Tortoise that is Full of True Wisdom and Out-Wins the Hare."
Thank you Jose, for your Kind and Thoughtful Words.. Wise ONE That Speaks
Truth ALOUD.
Your Good Friend...
Edward. |
Anonymous
Member
Post Number: 59
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 01:15 am: |
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Dear FIGU members
For the past month or so I have been thinking it is time to let go and move on. Since discovering FIGU, and especially this discussion board, much of my time and thinking has been taken up by it. I have found myself returning day after day to join in on the discussions. The reason for this is because I find conversation addictive, in the sense that I am not easily able to pull myself away from it once I allow myself to be drawn into it. I am someone who likes talking, especially about the real issues. I am also someone who likes thinking and writing, which allows me on occasion to realize my faults and errors. I say ‘on occasion’; that is because I rarely seem to have much time to myself these days. In fact, for the past four years I feel as though I have to a very large degree lost touch with myself. I think and feel this because prior to this time I used to spend much of my days in solitude, even when around individuals (there were never so many individuals around me that I could not find time for myself). Now it seems there are people everywhere I turn, and very little time that I can enjoy privately. It is up to me to change that, and breaking away from this discussion board is just the start of it.
Sometimes I feel that talk serves no purpose other than a vain one. As I say, I like talking, but I’ve got to be unconscious to always talk and not realize how futile it can be. For much of my life I have thought, written and read more than I have talked. This is how I have learned and grown over the years. Knowing this, and realizing the emptiness of talk, it is up to me to make the conscious decision to drop out of every discussion held here, and resume my learning just by reading the FIGU material. It is not important to me that I understand it entirely. What is important is that I learn to think for myself, which I do anyway, but this means that I must be permitted to understand what I am reading according to my own potential. As much as this is said to be appreciated here, as much as it is said that humans make mistakes, which must be respected, I feel there is a very strong degree of pressure for individuals to comprehend what is being said correctly that for me verges on dogmatism. This is also another reason why I can no longer partake in any discussions held here. For me learning is about the exchange of ideas, however false they may be. It is about comprehending different philosophies, and integrating them with your own. It is about searching for knowledge wherever in the world, and from whomever. It is about being open-minded. Because of the ‘over’ confidence of some members regarding the ‘Truth’, an open-mind is not something that can be said to be practised here. Were we all at a level of understanding that is similar to each other, such as pupils at school, our minds can be said to be open to a higher knowledge, while closed to knowledge that we know to be lower or false. But we do not have a similar level of understanding, and so those of us who claim to know more may appear close-minded and dogmatic to those of us who don’t know as much. Perhaps for this reason a different approach should be considered that is according to certain levels of understanding, for it is not for everyone to know the same things at the same time. The pupil who is beginning to learn is given a preliminary education, and the pupil who has been learning for a number of years is given an education according to his level of knowledge. You don’t give the pupil who is beginning to learn the same education as the pupil who has been learning for a number of years. And neither do you give the pupil who has been learning for a number of years the same education as the pupil who is beginning to learn, since neither pupil would benefit from such an education. What good, then, will it do to receive truths for which our minds have not been prepared, or for which our minds have already come to understand? Either we will give up our learning because we are not able to understand or we will hinder the progress of our spirits.
As for those pupils who take it upon themselves to teach others who know less, unless they learn to teach as a teacher teaches, which is structurally, they will instead preach as a preacher preaches.
I have learnt much while among you. But I think now it is time to absorb what I have learned.
Anonymous
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Peter_brodowski
Member
Post Number: 208
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 12:12 pm: |
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dyson,
you are careless.
quote me exactly where i say i want to to murder these individuals or that i want to do physical harm. you jump to conclusions. how do you know what alterior motive i have for writting what i write?
you think i just say those things to sound mighty?
you know little about what goes on in my life and the people within it, so dont assume you know what i'm getting at, let alone how i get to it.
quote me specifically where i say i am going to go kidnap one of these freemasons, as they have done to children etc.
what do i care of your "green light" in relation to my actions and choices...
you are not above me and i am not your subordinate, get off your high horse, or ..comment deleted
you sound like someone i knew when i was a fool, he was a priest, and he liked to preach.
you dont see it (maybe to busy pointing out the rough edges of other people, rather than looking in the mirror) but you quote the TJ like some fanatical christian would the bible.
"And you have not only gone 180 degrees away from the renewed teachings, you have now utterly discredited yourself and your accounts here. You have also tacitly discredited me and everyone else who is HONESTY trying to disclose the dishonesty we know exists within and around these evil secret societies"
discredit? do i look like i have any plans to write a book?
you are a piece of work man, turned 180 degree away from the teachings?
i'll bet dollars to dimes that i am in accordance with creational laws just as much as you or anybody on this board.
you dont even know what plans i have cooking in the oven. you dont even skim the top.
you assume and reach into what i write, you are careless and totally arrogant in your stance, and seem to be obsessed about your own self worth and relevance according to the mission of figu and billy and the plejarens.
did billy ever give you the OKAY to be his spokes person?
"Had I not weighed in to oppose you now, readers could assume my silence was tacit agreement, and NOTHING could be further from the truth."
universe forbid that your precious readers may be poisoned by my vile teachings.
there you go, bathing in your own self relavance.
i could comment on some other foolish assumptions you made about me in regards to your last post to me, but i wont bother.
but just so it's not completely mysterious to you... if i had all that info on the secret societies after doing my investigations in the kidnappings, what makes you assume i would want to link it to your website?
your website is full of absent minded snap judgements and hate.
who do you think you are, the saviour of all mankind?
speaking of knowit all's, check yourself. you seem to exhibit signs of delusions relating to the worth of your work and actions.
i simply say what i feel, i dont tell you what is right or wrong, unlike you who condemn me if what i say does not run parallel with your limited perception of life and the many problems surrounding it.
"This is not just pseudo-religious drivel. This really works. Try it and see.
"OM 32:1117 “Die Ehre eines Menschen ist wichtiger als Geld und Gut.“ (A human’s honor is more important than money and possessions.)
OM 32:1169 “Der Goldene Schüssel der Wahrheit öffnet alle Türen.“ (The golden key of truth opens all doors.)"
you are so arrogant it's not even worth the words.
"By all means fight Freemasonry, but please do it our way, not theirs. Please see www.gaiaguys.net/freemasonsummary.htm for some of their own evidence of the Masonic (pre-Christian) love of revenge. "
there you go, assuming i am going to wage some war against the free masons.
i wanted to write certain things in my last post to illustrate my views on the matter, and you took it as direct reference to what i will physically do and twist it to your own perceptions of what has been said. you are careless to criminal degrees.
i dont need you to warn me about the dangers, buddy i've been at the doorstep of death more than once, and i've been down the trail and back.
do not think you are the only one who knows anything about these matters. you think i came to you for approval?
i just wanted to share some account with you and build a positive social relationship like i have done with others on figu, and you turn it into this mess.
i have heard from many others about your arrogance and hateful personality. you sound really unstable, and although i gave you the benefit of the doubt, you seem to do what others have long since told me you would do.
i am happy to say, i do not wish to communicate with you any longer. i hope you take a look in the mirror oneday, and rather than giving advice, start taking it. your so high up on that horse, i could swear your turning into a centaur.
i just cant belive how you could be so self-absorbed. we all have our ways of helping the missions get accomplished, stop trying to set standards that you are not authorized, or for that matter capable of establishing.
i hope your partner viveine (forgive my misspelling, i am not perfect) is much more reasonable than you.
and dont worry Scott, i will not continue this discussion after this post. thanks. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 343
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 05:46 pm: |
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Dear Peter,
In reply to your 204th posting, where you state, “…a clever individual will out match an entire army, all you have to do is play their own game... distort, confuse, intimidate and repeat.”
Of course I admire your courage, but I condemn your ethics in the strongest possible terms.
Applied to the vengeful dishonesty to which you refer, this “fight fire with fire” philosophy you advance is nothing more than the insane ancient Laws of Moses, which even predate the Age of Pisces; “an eye for an eye” – “you rape MY sister, so I rape YOUR sister!” Where’s the logic and justice in THAT?
That’s a lot of what plagues the Middle East, in my view.
Absolute antilogos/666 stuff. VERY illogical.
When you’ve got it to use, fight fire with water.
And you have not only gone 180 degrees away from the renewed teachings, you have now utterly discredited yourself and your accounts here. You have also tacitly discredited me and everyone else who is HONESTY trying to disclose the dishonesty we know exists within and around these evil secret societies.
Had I not weighed in to oppose you now, readers could assume my silence was tacit agreement, and NOTHING could be further from the truth.
The absolute central pivot point - the “bottom line” of all Billy’s precious renewed teachings - is the true truth. When you go against that, you are going against Creation itself, and are on a slippery slope to misery, enslavement and doom. You also turn your back on one of the most powerful elemental forces humans can possess: truth. And that means honor. The best position to defend what’s right is on the high moral ground, and the mockers and know-it-alls can – with their unjust attacks – only make you stronger.
This is not just pseudo-religious drivel. This really works. Try it and see.
OM 32:1117 “Die Ehre eines Menschen ist wichtiger als Geld und Gut.“ (A human’s honor is more important than money and possessions.)
OM 32:1169 “Der Goldene Schüssel der Wahrheit öffnet alle Türen.“ (The golden key of truth opens all doors.)
By all means fight Freemasonry, but please do it our way, not theirs. Please see www.gaiaguys.net/freemasonsummary.htm for some of their own evidence of the Masonic (pre-Christian) love of revenge.
Salome,
Dyson
P.S. In reply to your previous question, Peter, which I forgot to address: as far as I can determine, NOBODY gets past Debbie and Raven to communicate with Greer. |
Tony
Member
Post Number: 88
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 05:23 pm: |
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Peter, though I agree with some of what you had said there about Dyson misunderstanding what you were getting at in your other post, please understand Dysons position. He has to constantly watch his back (for his life) from these freemason people and he is constantly under some degree of stress and pressure. He also doesn't try to be a Mr know it all either, he is just trying to help others out with advice, and he has shown in the past on this forum that he accepts advice/corrections given to him from others here when he has made mistakes or misinterpreted something. He is not perfect and he is just trying to help people out the best way he can, here and through his website too, and I respect him for that because there is nothing in it for him. |
Peter_brodowski
Member
Post Number: 209
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 06:56 pm: |
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hello tony,
it's not simply that he misunderstands me, it is
the way he carries himself. ofcourse nobody is perfect, but when one preaches on what one must do to live according to the creative laws etc... and does not look at his own self in the process, he may easily look like/and be a hypocrite. as is the case with dyson.
i dont want to go further about dyson, my above post is very very clear as to what i found was unreasonable and completely careless. i understand your views and thank you for your reply. |
Alan
Member
Post Number: 74
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 08:49 pm: |
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Peter_brodowski "your website is full of absent minded snap judgements and hate."
That is not true/correct because if you've had a look, you would have noticed that gaiaguysnet provides more then adequate proof to backup all of its government/organisation/people claims.
What did you expect a whistleblower site to be full of - love?? |
Vestri
Member
Post Number: 65
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 09:30 pm: |
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"your website (gaiaguysnet) is full of absent minded snap judgements and hate."
Rubbish, I don't agree with you there. And that is why Gaiaguysnet website is responsible for a lot of good things/steps happening in the australia government?
Australian MP Ian Causley Quits!
"It was that #%&#! website that did it!!" - anonymous insider.
http://www.gaiaguys.net/causlink.htm
Gaiaguysnet website recieves averages 500,000 hits a day, yes a day! That website is not only responsible for informing a LOT of people on the net about the coruption in Oz and other world governments, but also for informing a LOT of people about the billy meier ufo case too. peter, what have you done for the community that could possibly compare with what Dyson and Vivviene have done!!
Peter, you may be right in (attacking?) Dyson's character judgement (he is not perfect just like YOU aren't), but NOT in attacking the INTEGRITY of his website! |
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