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    Hunter Member Post Number: 216 Registered: 03-2004 |
Isabella, That's exactly what it means. Many unexplained archeological discoveries are listed on this site: http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com By the way, what country do you reside in? | ||
Isabellacoca Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hello Hunter, I reside in the United States of America. A country of "freedom". And in this country, I live in the state of Maryland, which at one time in my childhood, thought it was an amusement park because of the name and was very much dissapointed that it turned out to be a state. Thanks you for the site. I will check it out now. Salome and love to all, Isabella Coca | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 217 Registered: 03-2004 |
Isabella, I asked because your use of the language reminds me of some of my European friends. Are your parents from Europe? Rather than go off topic on the board you can email me with the answer at sundance@safe-mail.net | ||
Tjames Member Post Number: 177 Registered: 12-2004 |
Watch: By Christopher Dunne: The Giza Power Plant. And let me know what you think!! Parts have already been confirmed by the contact notes, for example; the fact that the Egyptians were not the makers of the pyramids, merely responsible for carvings and rituals preserved on the walls. This movie explains a possible theory that the pyramid used frequency from earth to create resonance thereby creating either electricity or to relieve stress points on the planet. He explains the impossibility that men without advanced tools, tools which even our society have not developed to move the 100 ton plus granite pieces 500 miles and allign them with the most perfect crafsmanship to a hundredth of an inch, oh and only with copper nives and stone utensils. No way! Thoughts? Tim Salome gam nan been urrda gan njjber hasala hesporona! | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 607 Registered: 10-2000 |
This may be as good a place as any to put this. Please read carefully as I think that this is hugely important. Please see the following info regarding the iceman, Urk: 238th contact May 18th, 1991 12:55AM v6 p397-402 - Ptaah 586- 608. 5105 yrs ago, (form 1991) Urk was with 13 others when he had an epileptic seizure and fell on one of his own arrows, severely injuring himself just as a terrible ice storm descended. His group left him where he fell in order to save themselves. 238th contact (cont.) v6 p440-443 - Ptaah 822-825. Urk was also a Plejaren contactee. He rescued two Plejaren, caught off guard, from a bear when they had to make an emergency landing. They became friends. They took him for rides, helped him travel, etc. He was cleverer than the others, learned a lot and became tribal leader at the age of about 21. At the time of his fatal accident, he was 37 years, 8 months and 17 days old. Ptaah said Urk's mummified body would be found around September 20th, 1991. The contact conversation then goes on to explain how the carbon 14 dating system Earth humans use is calibrated wrongly because cosmic ray influences are variable. In a nutshell, it is still quite exact for dates up to 1000 years ago, but prior to that, the resulting C14 dates are not early enough by up to a millennium. It's too technically complex for me to try to explain to you here, but it's one of the more important (as you can imagine!) Plejaren scientific translations I want to do someday. 244th contact December 30th, 1991 12:33AM V7 p3 Ptaah 38-39. "Urk" means "The Unwavering" (Standhafte) and there is a Dutch island also called Urk which means the same thing. 367th contact September 9th, 2004 11:37PM v9 p322 Ptaah 62-64. "Urk" is a Plejaren name. "The Iceman" was actually named "Onde", the meaning of which Ptaah does not know. "Urka" is the feminine form. And now, please read the info regarding new findings about how he died: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0707/feature2/index.html Any comments? Michael Horn | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hello Michael Warmest Greetings All, Michael, Which point in your post # 607 is the most "hugely important?" That the carbon dating is in error? Or that the Plejarens correctly identified when the mummified body would be found? An interesting story, especially the reference to the Dutch island of Urk ("The Unwavering"). Do you know of the Greek Island Kea? The island is located off the coast of Attika, and in the Aegean sea about 40-miles SouthEast from Athens. Kea (also known as Tzia) has a VERY long history, which even pre-dates the Minoan culture. On the Island of Kea, there is to be found an ancient LION-headed Sphinx. The lion-sphinx is also VERY ancient, measures six-meters (about 20-foot) length, the body aligned SouthWest, with the head turned perpendicular towards the East The alignment of the head is significant, as it was then, at the time, that the constellation of Leo arose in the winter solstice. Astronomically, that time-period was 10,800 years B.C. Which brings me full-circle from my first post in these forums. I am still searching for any additional references or knowledge of the KALOO. Legends of the KALOO say they were some of the surviving remnant people from the destruction of Atlantis. They were scientists, teachers, philosophers, who wandered over the Earth to impart and preserve their science and philosophies among the new civilizations arising from the aftermath of the cataclysm and subsequent ice ages. They are said to have appeared among the peoples of ancient Greece, Egypt, the Hebrews, the Essenes, and in Tibet, among others. (for Tibet, refer to "The Bardo Thodol", also known as "The Tibetan Book Of The Dead".) SO...if anyone has further knowledge of the KALOO, I would love to hear from you. Thank you. Salome Let Our LOVE show in all actions, J_rod7 | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2007 |
Rod im not trying to offend you but Billy stated in special bulletin 32 that lamanism is revered in the western world because they are duped by the machinists of lamanism. I would read this before considering any of Tibets spiritual messages, you can get a copy of a translated excerpt of SB32 from a gaiaguys CD Michael has on his site. I personally found that very beleivable because I've read the books by German author Theodore Illion who traveled Tibet in the 1930's in disquise and had to flee for his life when he discovered cannibilism among Tibets spiritual heirarchy. I can see your attraction to unexplained archetecture and it's relation to ancient cultures but I would be careful studying the foundations of the world's (the Bafath's handiwork?). Michael I enjoyed your "Iceman" posting and the interrellated peice on your site. Corey "Rettet Erde, Leben, Pflanzen, Mensch, und Tier" | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2007 |
for clarification purposes I don't mean the founding of todays religions in the sense of Billy's spirit form Jammanuel or Mohammed teaching the laws and commandments of Creation, but the later foundings of movements that became todays corrupted religions, deliberate distortions of Billy's oral works in previous incarnations in a Catholisism/Vatican sense, or even beforehand and example being Hebrew ties to the not so nice Jehova in antiquity etc... and most people probably don't know Tibetan Laminism had ties to the Thule society so I was just trying to give you a heads up to be careful! Rod in my personal study of forbidden archeology and preflood cultures (in the years before I found out about Billy Meier) I found some cool discoveries in many of the areas you are looking, and if you contact me we can compare notes on the positive items, but on the negative side, my study eventually led me so some frightining tribal legends going back to antiquity in parts of Mexico, Arizona, as well as in California around Mt Shasta where srange white men had been kidnapping tribal peoples taking them undergound and they were never seen again. I firmly beleive this, and after reading some of Billy's Schriften I assumed was also the Bafath but I don't know for sure, once I found Billy's work I just moved on. Rod just follow your instincts when you research some of these things, if it feels wrong it probably is, look for the things that feel positive to you in your current development without letting yourself get sidetracked from the rest of Billy's teachings is all im saying.  In are more distant future when our planets technology and counciousness improves, we will probably make many realizations about our past that will require us to rewrite our history when we are more prepared for the truth. Corey "Rettet Erde, Leben, Pflanzen, Mensch, und Tier" | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 141 Registered: 06-2007 |
238th contact (cont.) v6 p440-443 - Ptaah 822-825. Urk was also a Plejaren contactee. He rescued two Plejaren, caught off guard, from a bear when they had to make an emergency landing. They became friends. They took him for rides, helped him travel, etc. He was cleverer than the others, learned a lot and became tribal leader at the age of about 21. At the time of his fatal accident, he was 37 years, 8 months and 17 days old. Ptaah said Urk's mummified body would be found around September 20th, 1991. The contact conversation then goes on to explain how the carbon 14 dating system Earth humans use is calibrated wrongly because cosmic ray influences are variable. In a nutshell, it is still quite exact for dates up to 1000 years ago, but prior to that, the resulting C14 dates are not early enough by up to a millennium. It's too technically complex for me to try to explain to you here, but it's one of the more important (as you can imagine!) Plejaren scientific translations I want to do someday. This explain the anachronistic object (the Ax) found with the body of Onde. The ax was made of an alloy of copper with other metal. Every human bones from that date found around the world have tools made of stone, bone or wood. but this man had an ax made of metal! I saw the program in discovery channel and I saw that the scientist where astonished about the ax. "we born to die and we die to born" "Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her" | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 362 Registered: 07-2004 |
Wow! So the axe was an alloy. That triggers deeper thoughts for many scientists who study the Urk event. Questioning the source for such an axe will foster greater dialog regarding who supplied this impossible artifact. Plan on it becoming obscured and pushed to the background to protect academia. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Matthew_deagle Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 08-2007 |
Incredible, Do you mean 'up to a millenium not recent enough'? Otherwise, what you've said makes no sense, it would seem to me. Although certainly smelting, etc., has been developed and then lost as a technology repeatedly throughout the million years or so since human ancestors first created settlements (according to Quetzal). Salome, - Matthew | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 364 Registered: 07-2004 |
That's true Matthew. But I get what Incredible explains in the carbon 14 dating error. I was envisioning the world/time period Urk existed in and the 'lack' of such technology being found amongst Urks neighbors/community. Having some type of metal instrument where it was not believed to be available, and an axe of all things, puts Urk in a special category that scientist can think, 'outside the box', in explaining this artifact. It seems like a good door for alternative ideas to at least be theorized. If not in public, at least in the minds of the newer researchers that will be more open to placing the axe in Urks hands through the help of more intelligent people. Yeah, it's a long shot, but interestingly a potential tick up in seeing Earth as a visited planet. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1099 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Corey..... Concerning your: Rod just follow your instincts when you research some of these things,.... In time you will learn: That Human Beings are in possession of an "Intuitive/intuition (related)- Consciousness", and that in the Animal World are in the possession of an "Instinctive/Instinct(related)-Consciousness"; when you study Billy's materials much more precisely...in the future to come. Thus, the distinction must be taken into account, here. Pleasant Studying.... Edward. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 176 Registered: 10-2007 |
Greetings All In Peace, A most fascinating book: "The Origin Map," by the author: Thomas G. Brophy, PhD (physics). Brophy is one of those few skilled in the science of Astro-Archeology (or also Archeo-Astronomy). This book is a detailed study of the discovery of a prehistoric, megalithic, astrophysical map and sculpture of the Universe. This structure was found on the plain in the Egyptian Sahara desert West of Aswan, at a site named Nabta Playa. The alignment of stones, and the sculptures themselves, have built-in scalars from local star positions, to our place within the Galaxy, the size of the Galaxy, and the relationship of our Galaxy to the Universe as a whole. There is also built-in a scalar map of the relative recession velocities of local star groups. Stellar alignments in the stones put the construction date at around 17,700 BC. I don't want to give away TOO much here, but to add that the stellar alignments in the stones also occurred around 43,000 BC, as calculated by Dr. Brophy. Let's consider the historical framework given to us from the Plejarens. At around 208,000 BC, the Plejarens settled Earth, Mars, and Milona for the first time. 178,000 BC, Milona was destroyed, the remains are the asteroid belt. Much of Mars' atmosphere was blown away, and the orbit of Mars changed. 178,000-100,000 BC, repeated ET colonizations, including using Earth as a penal colony. 71,364 BC, the Plejarens built the pyramids in Egypt. 52,000 BC, civil war destroys much of Earth's population. 48,000 BC, the Ishwish Pelegon recolonizes Earth with 70,000 Plejarens. 31,000 BC, Atlantis and MU were founded by Plejaren refugees fleeing back from the star system of Beta Centauri. Now we may begin to fill in this framework with events implied in the archeological records of Human endeavors, as Brophy, among others, has pointed out for us. (Reference also in forum = Andrew's Book Club.") Salome Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2007 |
thank you for the referral, and I can truly see your point. I am self admittingly no expert on Billy's teachings and truly appreciate the criticism. I was simply trying to say that a serious study of pre flood cultures can often lead someone to misleading "new age" type of reference or material, in some cases presumably false ufo contact reports, some oral and written legends that probably have a ring of truth as well as some others that are based in delusion or corrupted spiritual teachings, which can often lead to just guessing to explain the currently unexplainable, someone that is studying Billy's material could really be left scratching thier head if they just looked to the past to answer some of their questions, from my personal standpoint for someone that is curious about the past they could truly be drawn to some positive things but also some improper mediatation techniques, dangerous civil rights movements (like "the shining path" in South America), a reiteration of ingesting hallucinagenic drugs which was quite common in many areas of the world in ancient times (which is probably damaging to oneself), perhaps even the study of ancient advanced unexplainable alphabets especially those in areas of the world where nearby the sand had at one time been heated so hot that it turned to green glass, the same as the sand in the area where the manhatten project was developed might be misleading. Corey "Rettet Erde, Leben, Pflanzen, Mensch, und Tier" | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1452 Registered: 12-1999 |
J_rod, Where did you get your facts concerning the various pieces of information you posted? Malona was destroyed approx. 75,000 years ago (And Still They Fly Page-187) The Pyramids were not built by the Plejarens, but by Egyptians under the guidance of Et's from the area of Orion. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/3728.html#POST12978 I don't believe it was Plejarens that settled here some 200,000 years ago, but old Lyrian and Vegans. To the best of my knowledge the Plejarens have never settled here, but only remained in the role as observers and advisors. I think it might be beneficial when posting this type of historical information, that you name the source, which would be helpful to the rest of us when reading your posts. Thank you Scott | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 46 Registered: 06-2006 |
Scott, J_rod, I would like to mention that there is a discrepancy between Guido's book and another piece of information made available from the Chronology of Earth History made available through contacts given to Billy. I have also written about that in a previous letter in the Forum , and Edward also commented wanting some help from moderators on that. According to the chronology that I came to have, even J rods number differ a bit : 225,000 BC Pleja scout ships discover earth,and colonies are founded here, on Mars and Milona. 196,000 BC a war breaks out on earth and its people evacuated to the Plejas. Forty years later Milona destroys itself and becomes the asteroid belt. Mars is thrown out of orbit and all life gone. The three differing numbers need to be clarified is it 196,000 BC, 178,000 BC or 75,000 BC ? All three are coming from sources related to FIGU and this has to be settled once and for all Salome Mohammed | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1453 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Mohammed, Could you cite which book/contact you have which states the dates you provided. Possibly then if the sources can be verified, we can request clarification. Thanks Scott | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 318 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi J_rod7, While this doctor you quote is knowledgeable, the very fact he uses BC (Before Christ) should tell you something about the accuracy of the information... Pyramid date is close: Although, it was the Egyptian slaves overseen by Orion Colonists... it is my understanding. Pyramids built 73340 years ago: KB7 Contact 256 Pg 423 No time to research further... although it might be more fruitful if you include references for your material and people can corroborate the information. | ||
Mqhassan Member Post Number: 48 Registered: 06-2006 |
Scott, The info comes from http://www.semjase.net/semjeng10.html, where there is a title of "Mysteries Explained" and later on the " Seven Steps of Man " and a "Chronology of Earth History" . At the Bottom the following is referred : FOR BETTER OVERVIEW ONE SHOULD BUY THE ORIGINAL CONTACT NOTES ON GERMAN - WHICH ALSO WILL BE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH - SEE THE BOOKSTORE ON WWW.FIGU.ORG.. As regarding to the Building of the Pyramids that Rarena mentioned as being 73,340 years ago from the date of the contact No. 256, note that Billy mentioned in his Booklet "49 Questions" that the age of the Pyramids are to be taken as 2 x 36,650 years prior to the date of Hegira ( 622 AD ). So if we take this year 2008 as our reference today, the Hegira was 2008-622 years or 1386 years ago. The age of the Pyramids would then be 73,300 plus 1,386 = 74,686 years old, or 72,678 BC I would like to mention that C.W.Leadbeater who was a leading writer in theosophy and school of Masonic thought, mentions a specific date of 75,025 BC as the year of the great catastrophe without mentioning what happened,in his book " Freemasonry and its Ancient Mystic Rites ". But he mentioned that the Atlantean conquest of Egypt took place over 150,000 years ago, and the first great empire lasted until the catastrophe ! If this information has some accuracy then the Pyramids were built 2,347 years after that catastrophe, which could actually be what Guido mentioned in his book as the destruction of Malona ! Some interesting correlations appear here. Salome Mohammed | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1454 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Mohammed, Just looking over the website you are referring to, I noticed a number of errors, at least according to how I understand the information from FIGU. Some of the contact notes have been updated since which may account for some of the discrepancies. For instance the pyramids being built by the Lyrans (Lyrians). Thanks for the heads up Scott | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 319 Registered: 10-2005 |
Mohammed, Very astute observation! Semjase.net is not approved by FIGU and is full of information which is often inaccurate, be careful... it may be prudent to seek information elsewhere (E.G. Semjase Contact Notes Books 1 - 9) available from FIGU.org. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 177 Registered: 10-2007 |
Greetings All Scott, Mohammed, my apologies that the reference was not included with my post # 176 for the chronology. This information comes from the book: "Star Wisdom, Principles of Pleiadian Spirituality," by the author Gene Andrade. The chronology is found in Appendix No. 1 of this book. This book is available and sold from the website WWW.THEYFLY.COM, maintained by Michael Horn. True that this is not an "official" FIGU publication. However, to quote the back-cover note by Randolph Winters = "Star Wisdom is a great experience in the discovery of higher consciousness. This is a must-read." Salome Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 |
