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    The_original_dave Member Post Number: 209 Registered: 05-2007 |
Hello Michael, ''My suggestion for you is to think this through more deeply and if you want to interact on those boards challenge them, hold their feet to the fire to deal with what I've mentioned to you...once you comprehend its importance.'' Yes I do understand it's importance. I am no skeptic of the case, and you should know this by now. I was simply adding another possibility to the on going conversation about the Dino photo's. And as for going on to those forums and debating about the case. My answere is no, I have been on those forums before and it's just a negative atmosphere. People aren't debating, there arguing and bashing each other. It's not for me... | ||
The_original_dave Member Post Number: 210 Registered: 05-2007 |
''Meier has said, as have the Plejaren, that switches were made on some photos (others never even were returned to him). The skeptics love to jump on this but it so happens that Meier was warned about the issue with the "Dean Martin dancers" years before it occurred! It is in one of Wendelle's books, published, copyrighted, etc. so we have proof of that.'' Michael, could you scan or type an exert of what Billy said. At the moment I do not have those books, so I would appreciate it if could do it. | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 627 Registered: 10-2000 |
Thomas here is the text: Ptaah- ...222/It has already been a great exception that you are allowed to get photographs of Asket and Nera, because besides this, we have found female Earth beings who look strikingly similar to them, and who, interestingly, are also cooperating together. Meier- Dear, that's a pity. But the women, the dopplegangers of Asket and Nera, where are they? Ptaah- 223/In the land of America. Meier- Can you perhaps give me their address, and tell more details about them? Ptaah- 224/I don't want to for certain reasons. Meier- You are always so secretive. Ptaah- 225/In certain matters this has to be so Again, copyrighted and published long before the photos ever surfaced. Michael Horn | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 185 Registered: 06-2006 |
Borthwey wrote: Does anyone know what explanation Billy has given about the dinosaur photos supposedly taken in his time travel and the similar illustrations wich appeared in books? It seems very clear to me that the photos can't be photos of the illustrations, they're just not the same thing, even if they are very similar. Probably a similar conclusion could be taken regarding the "entrance to the DAL Universe" photos. All this points to a major conspiracy whose exposure can give some (needed) public credibility to the Meier case. Comparative crops of the photo and the illustration can be seen in the ats forum I was reading something out of Semjase Block 20 just now about this subject, beginning about page 3874. Firstly I must say that Billy was not back in time when he took the photos of the dinosaurs as erroneously keeps being mentioned, he had gone to a planet, Neber, which was still at that stage of development. There were more evolved beings living there though, but they had come there for other purposes. Ptaah and Billy had a discussion about the topic of the photos. The photos of the flying and the other dinosaur are NOT the original photos Billy took. They were switched by the man who developed them 'Schmid' and supposedly some MIB who were involved in this kind of activity. They ARE photos of the drawings made by the artist. Out of approx. 1500 photos taken during that Big Spacer journey, only 42 original negatives remain. It has been suggested that unfortunately, Billy's ex-wife was also involved in the selling of photos for profit, and slander. This is also discussed in this section, which must have been very sad for Billy as well as the others involved in the mission, to find those things out at a later time. The photos that are still circulating, and that are the ones discussed on the other forums etc... are forgeries. But as Michael and others have said, even though it would be nice to get to the bottom of it, with regard to trying to convince posters on those forums, it is really a waste of time. They have already made their minds up -- and nothing short of a personal visit or a public visit from the Plejaren will likely shake that one off. It is such a shame that these things happened. When you read in books like 'Light Years' about how people just used to walk into the house, and help themselves to photos in drawers and other places, and walk off with them, makes you realise that Billy and the others were rather naive as to the nature of man at that time -- and Billy also would have been so consumed with his regular trips, and likely exhausted, that he would not have been able to police things in a manner that may have been required back then. Of course, now, those at the Centre have learned, and are more careful. Here is a short exerpt: 24. Wie du weisst, wurde ein grösserer Teil deines Materials unserer Strahlschiffphotos durch den Photographen Schmid unter dem Druck einer gewissen Organisation der MiB gefälscht und dir wieder untergeschoben, wie das gleichermassen auch mit deinem Filmund Photomaterial von der Grossen Reise geschah. 25. Die Filme und Dias, die unsere Strahlschiffe zeigten, wurden minutiös derart verfälscht, dass plötzlich Fäden zu sehen waren, als ob Modelle aufgehängt gewesen und photographiert worden wären, wie dies z.B. dein selbsternannter Erzfeind Kal Korff in einem Schauergeschichtenbuch und in einem Schwindelfilm darstellte, und zwar unter Mitwirkung deiner lieben Ex-Frau, die dich voller Hass weltweit unmöglich und als Schwindler, Lügner und Betrüger zu brandmarken versuchte. weil sie in ihrer Herrschsucht und Machtsucht nicht an vorderster Front stehen konnte. hope this helps in peace Robjna | ||
Trevor Member Post Number: 50 Registered: 05-2007 |
Must be so nice and quite an adventure to visit planets with dinosaurs. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 480 Registered: 03-2004 |
Thanks Mike. I appreciate the help... | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 09-2007 |
Thanks Robjna, that's the information that I was looking for. I will still hold to my opinion that the photo wasn't taken from that illustration, though, even if it has no meaning anymore. DG | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2007 |
There is this video where Randolph Winters shows a photo album. One of the photos, he claims, was taken 60 million years ago and shows an early Earth with two moons. Another, he says, shows a form of life that represents a transition between plants and insects. One is lead to assume that it was taken in Earth too, however, 60 million years ago seems too early for something like that. I wonder how much of what he says is true or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC53l17_GnM DG | ||
Mehraein62 Member Post Number: 138 Registered: 12-2007 |
Robjna, thank you for explanation Salome M45 | ||
Ennui246 Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2007 |
CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS PLEASE! If they sent jmanuel 2000 years ago and he was a profit and Ptaah can calculate the future and is the king of Wisdon what was the point of sending him if the world now is overpopulated,and all messed up with pollution,greed etc. If these guys are so high in wisdom how come they can't get it right. They the kings of Wisdom trained billy meier from a child and President Bush and his flunkies can't be moved, china is selling body organs cut fresh from their prisoners my dog wouldn't even do that ? People are getting slaughtered worse than animals.They can travel 25000 light years in 10 minutes, astral travel,influence The figu group to co-operate and make them want to do stuff but they can't control the leaders minds. I think something is not right here the spirit is great but the human body is got to be worth something. | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 53 Registered: 04-2007 |
simple, we need to do it for ourself. if they come and save the day then we wont become responsible and expect them to do all our dirty work. do some research. They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey | ||
Jamesm Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 02-2006 |
Ennui, the point in sending Jmmanuel to our planet, as far as I am aware, was to inject our planet with the true Laws of Creation once more, just like the other prophets that the spirit-form of BEAM (Billy Edward Albert Meier) also incarnated into and the other prophets that were the incarnation of other spirit-forms. Due to the Laws of Creation one must not interfere directly in the evolution of another sovereign race such as us. However implantation of the truth using prophets is permitted since it is an indirect intervention. We have the choice to ignore the prophets in other words. Those technologically advanced Sirians who created the modern Earth man millions of years ago were spiritually poor as they lost the true Laws of Creation. The Plejarens are another offshoot of mankind just like the Sirians. The Plejarens however, have been following the Laws of Creation for a very long time and still do. It is our overall responsibility to lift ourselves out of this mixture of wonder and horror we call Earth in the 21st century. BEAM was prepared to become the prophet of the new age and nothing more. Unlike Jmmanuel, BEAM's DNA is genetically modified, like you and I. It is written that it will take several more hundred years before we will all accept the truth about Creation and reject the religious chains that control us. It just takes a long time for evolution to take effect. We are nearly there though, the Age of Belief is nearly over and soon we will enter the Age of Knowledge. Want some good reading material for the toilet/bed/bus/train? Try these for starters... Contact Report 251 - The True Origins of Earth Man - this is a long and fascinating read Warning to all the governments of Europe - 1958 - another fascinating read, mentions the Iraq wars among others Contact Report 215 - The Henok Prophecies - what could happen if we dont wake up Then read every single other article at www.futureofmankind.co.uk and you will have a much better understanding of the universe, where we came from and where we will probably go. Enjoy James G. T. Moore Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 320 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Borthwey, Was just going through the posts that I missed reading during my vacation. Thought that this addition might help further regarding the dino pics… it’s in German so you might need to use Google translator or the like. http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2005/nr-20/getuerkte-photos?page=0%2C0 Salome, Badr | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 09-2007 |
Thanks Badr. I will see what I can understand from it. On another subject: These drawings look very good, could they have been copied from pictures by Billy? Can anyone tell me anything about their origin? http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll154/mvidarus/billy.jpg http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll154/mvidarus/semjase.jpg DG | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 09-2007 |
Just to prevent a misunderstanding, when I wrote "from photos by Billy", I meant "from photos taken by Billy" | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 327 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Borthwey, On my various visits to the centre I have seen portraits or drawings relating to the mission, there are a couple of pictures from drawings in the photo book at the centre. The way I understood it is that such drawings are done by various people that know how to draw or are artists, and know about the mission. In most cases I think they usually send the drawings to the centre as a present. I guess it’s something similar to how things started with Dejan, were he just done some art work when he had the time, as he had the skills to do it. Salome, Badr | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 09-2007 |
OK, thanks. I'll assume that the details in the landing gear and in Semjase's suit are made-up, then. Although, it would be interesting to ask Billy if the drawings have any accuracy. DG | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 174 Registered: 10-2007 |
Greetings All In Peace, I also do drop in here to this forum section from time-to-time. I agree with that expressed by Original_Dave...: "I have been on those forums before and it's just a negative atmosphere. People aren't debating, there arguing and bashing each other. It's not for me..." However, we should not "give up" on anyone seeking knowledge, if the seeking is for truth and growth of the spirit. I correspond with many friends and relatives by email. Some of them like to thump on bibles, quote nonsense scriptures at me. I see them hiding from their fears of taking responsibility for themselves. I recently sent them all an email, which I would like also to share here...: Ask your self this... do you believe in Religion, or do you know God? If you know God, then you know that God has no Religion. God is not Christian, God is not Catholic, or Protestant, or Muslim, or Buddhist, or Pagan. God is the Creator of All Creation. God is the source of every Spirit. The Spirit is always connected with God. Consider this Truth... We are all Spirits having a Human experience. Though the human flesh shall pass away, the Spirit endures always forever. The Universe comes into Creation, will return back into the Creator, To be re-born into a new Creation. In the same manner, the Spirit is re-born again and again ~~~ to experience Creation with new eyes. That which has no ending, can not have any beginning. Salome Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 | ||
Adityasonakia Member Post Number: 202 Registered: 07-2007 |
Dear Ennui, Well these are one of those questions which can be answered if you search the previous archives of this forum. Well the main reason of the Plejarens to come to Earth was to teach the people about Creation and other important things, for which they felt we were ready. If we chose not to follow this path we would destroy ourselves with war. They never forced anything on us. They just advised us, it is us who can follow, if we wish to, and that is why FIGU is here, to help us learn. Salome Aditya | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2008 |
Hi J_rod7, I just want to ask you if you read of Mr. Meier's material. He said that God(king of wisdom) did not create THE CREATION. Am I right ? | ||
The_original_dave Member Post Number: 218 Registered: 05-2007 |
Adysor, Nobody created the Creation (Universal Conciousness). | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 06-2007 |
J-Rod7: A "god" is a thinking thing. A thinking thing is an structure. A thinking structure need a primeval crude thing that creates that structure. The complexity is built from simpler things. The existence of any god require that first exist the environment and the "matter" that made possible his existence. According to ME.  The BigBang creates itself with the same principle of formation of a star. The only difference is that instead of an hydrogen nebulae, the process involve other type of matter, spirit is the matter that compose the absolute absolutum. That process not require the existence of god. "we born to die and we die to born" "Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her" | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 179 Registered: 10-2007 |
Greetings All, Adysor & Incredible, please consider that the "audience" of my post, reference "god" and "religion", was originally to certain of my friends and relatives. THEY are not familiar with the teachings which come from the Plejarens through Billy. The point of the email content is intended to gently "nudge" certain ones AWAY from gods/religion, and TOWARDS Creation. I felt it useful to share this here, as there are also certain ones who can take a little "nudge" to get some thinking going in a logical direction. That I, myself, did not take the point to it's logical conclusion, is that this was not addressed to those who see prophets in a piece of toast. Salome Someone Shared Their LOVE Today. Was It YOU? J_rod7 |
