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Darcy_carlile
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was reading Contact Report 72 page 286 and Semjase is talking to Billy about his descendants reincarnating by the year 2017 back into the group. Surely she means Nokodemion's descendants am I correct?
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Joe
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Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2017 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the original German contact reports there are single left-pointing angle quotation mark, single right-pointing angle quotation mark, double left-pointing angle quotation mark and double right-pointing angle quotation mark.

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« »

When translating to the English language should these types of quotation marks be retained?
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Patm
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Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2017 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe,

I translate single brackets as single quotes ex: ‹Billy› Eduard Albert Meier as 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier
and double brackets as double quotes
ex: «Schon Nokodemion und Henoch lehrten den Menschen …» as "Already Nokodemion and Henoch taught the human beings ..."

Salome
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Joe
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Posted on Monday, August 07, 2017 - 02:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PatM,

Thanks for the reply. Would you be willing to help me translate the contact reports? I had once tried contacting you via your website, but you had never replied.
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Patm
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Posted on Monday, August 07, 2017 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe,

First of all, except for excerpts the Contact Reports are copyrighted by FIGU and require permission/contract with Billy/FIGU in order to translate and publish.

Secondly our group already has translation projects we are working on with Billy/FIGU's permission. This unfortunately does not currently leave us any time to take on additional translation projects.

Sorry I (we) can't help you on this.

Salome
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Patm
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe,

One additional note. Anyone is free to translate any FIGU material for personal use ONLY! However for any copyrighted FIGU books (and BEAM Portal articles - which are being published as FIGU books) to be translated and published, Billy's/FIGU's permission/contract is required.

Salome
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Ajsniper
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2018 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi there,
A question bothers me for a long time which is related to the translation of "Goblet of Truth".
This GREAT BOOK contains special code which is ONLY based on High German, so...translate the words into any other languages and spread it may not be a wise behavior.
Meanwhile, the English translation should be fully understand and support for the dissemination of FIGU information on a global scale, but any third language version should not be encouraged and authorized.
I don’t know if my idea is right, so correct me if i was wrong.
salome
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Leon
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2018 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Leon,

You actually have the premise correct. The code is only with the German, and the English will be the only authorized 2nd language it will ever be translated into by FIGU Switzerland officially. It has taken since 2008 to get the German/English FIGU dictionary for the GoT up and running, which was a very labourous process to get the English definitions as close to the German original definitions as close as possible, and to replicate that for Chinese, they would have to be fluent in Chinese and German (which the core-group does not possess to the best of my knowledge), and most likely have to live in Switzerland to make entries on the potential FIGU Chinese Dictionary, which could be a foundation stone for any future potential Chinese translations. NOTE: any translations (contact reports, spiritual teaching) into Chinese should be done from German originals, not English originals. So it is adviseable if you wish to translate on behalf of your people to learn German so you can make the appropriate translations from the German originals into Chinese, as per the German language is the source language for spiritual teaching explanations.

As far as the spiritual teaching translations go, it does not require FIGU permission to translate the booklets (pamphlets), but it does require FIGU permission to translate any of the spiritual teaching books. Obviously not the "Goblet of the Truth", but I think it would be cool to see some Chinese translations of Billy's first German meditation book, or some others after time, as Chinese people are definitely part of the mission (you are fellow terrestrials). The only thing is, I don't know how FIGU Switzerland would replicate the process of translation corrections with no Chinse speaker pre-printing phase I am talking about. Usually the translator sends it into FIGU Switzerland for a correction process before the book is printed. For what it is worth: Billy told me directly in the Q and A China is definitely the world's next world superpower, it should be great, even if some people in the US don't like it initially..

Maybe the focus currently should be to try and form a mainland China Landesgruppe, and try and have the members fluently learn German (from a college, or ?), and one of these people could volunteer to assist the core-group in Chinese corrections once him or her was also fluent in German, but maybe the key focus for now should be to try and have (future) members learn German in the here and now present-time, and in the future, you could all branch out officially in any direction the Swiss core-group advises you to. What do you think?

kind regards,

(these are just my ideas, a passive member residing in the USA. For more detail, the core-group in Switzerland should be consulted.)

Corey
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."

27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Ajsniper
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2018 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey,
YES, your NOTE(any translations into Chinese should be done from German originals, not English originals) is also our perseverance and expectation.

First share some history here with you :
In the last half century, English is much more universal in China than German, so...when Billy case appeared in China around 2011, the early chinese learners have had been learning FIGU information from English translations, which means our learning materials are usually three-handed(German - English - Chinese), but we do know the German version should be the only correct source accompanied by our deeper understanding of the case.

Second, the FOCUS you suggested is right, fortunately, more and more chinese learners(including me) have started learning German now, so...TIME will gradually and eventually solve this problem.

About "Chinese Speaker"... i believe there are already such characters in chinese language world who can take up this responsibility, we should be more patient for their appearance.

"A mainland China Landesgruppe" may not be a good idea, at least at the moment, acting and thinking IN A FIGU WAY is important and necessary for the mission, i think we still need some time and guidance.
salome
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Leon
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2018 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We just mentioned the need not to hate … *)

From the latest ZZ (from Billy’s CR 705 of Wednesday, March 14, 2018):

Bermunda **):
“…This organization works worldwide, as the electromagnetic waves resp. very powerful swinging waves electromagnetic waves detected by Yanarara **) and Zafenatpaneach **), prove. show, which also carry peace-damaging and hateful sequences, which hit people around the earth and affect them viciously, fundamentally diminishing all efforts for peace and making it [peace] impossible.
In addition, by these waves resp. vibrations in the software and Internet environment, hardware manipulations are made, that are cunningly designed to suggestively influence -via the television, radio, computer, and Internet systems- all peoples and bring them into line in such a way that they are in bondage and have no will of their own in relation to the machinations of the upper elites.
Thus, through the powerful elites of politics, religions, sects, and the arms industry, business, banks, intelligence agencies, and all similar organizations, etc., the peace, equality, and freedom of all individuals can be prevented, individually and for the whole World. And this is done in the manner in which hatred is rampant throughout all peoples, whether through religions, sects, politics and all other machinations of any elements that sow hate and every effort to bring peace and to carry and practice to stifle self-responsibility as well as destroy every hint of justice and freedom.

Billy replies that this is proven by the never-ending sowing of hate against (a country) without any evidence.
I do not go into more details so as to not bring up more hate. Just this:
The leaders in our world should realize by building up one extreme they unwittingly create the opposite extreme, too...
The policy in harmony with the universe (and the deepest truth in their heart) is to seek, educate,and promote (truth, honour and) equalisedness / balance...

*)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/79.html#POST84574

**)
People fromthe "Ple (Sevenness) jaren (Law)"
I think Zafenatpaneach is a computer specialist

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German Original:

Auszug aus dem 705. offiziellen Kontaktgespräch vom Mittwoch, 14. März 2018

Bermunda
" … diese Organisation wirkt weltweit, wie die von Yanarara und Zafenatpaneach festgestellten elektromagnetischen Wellen resp. sehr kraftvollen Schwingungen beweisen, die auch friedenbeeinträchtigende und hassfördernde Sequenzen in sich tragen, die rund um die Erde die Menschen treffen und bösartig beeinflussen, von Grund auf alle Bemühungen für Frieden herabsetzen und ihn verunmöglichen. Zudem werden durch diese Wellen resp. Schwingungen im Software- und Internetzumfeld Manipulationen bezüglich der Hardware betrieben, die hinterhältig darauf ausgerichtet sind, durch die Televisions-, Radio-, Computer- und Internetzsysteme alle Völker derart suggestiv zu beeinflussen und auszurichten, dass sie in bezug auf die Machenschaften der oberen Eliten willenlos hörig werden. Dadurch kann weiterhin durch die mächtigen Eliten der Politik, Religionen, Sekten und der Waffenindustrie, Wirtschaft, der Banken, Geheimdienste sowie aller gleichartig handelnden Organisationen usw. der Frieden, die Gleichheit sowie die Freiheit aller Menschen im einzelnen ebenso verhindert werden wie auch in der ganzen Welt. Und dies wird in der Art und Weise betrieben, indem rundum bei allen Völkern der Hass hochgetrieben wird, sei es durch Religionen, Sekten, die Politik und alle sonstigen Machenschaften irgendwelcher Elemente, die Hass säen und jede Bemühung einer Frieden bringung und das Tragen und Ausüben der Selbstverantwortung ebenso im Keim ersticken, wie sie auch jeden Anflug von Gerechtigkeit und Freiheit zerstören."
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Joe
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Posted on Monday, March 26, 2018 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi,

I don't know, maybe I'm going crazy, but I could have sworn that you had just recently posted something about what Billy had said about escapism. If you did, then could you please give me the link to that post? I'm asking because I simply can't find it and would like to re-read it. Thank you.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, March 30, 2018 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The (Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur)-Prime (First)-Big-Bang”
(Excerpt of Billy’s new book)

My English translation (it may contain errors)

"But scientists and physicists do not yet know that the origin of all existence does not lie in [stem from] the big bang [i.e. the big bang of our universe] because it goes back much further into the <infinite-duration> past, and therefore the effective ur-ur-ur- ur-ur-ur-ur origin of the whole development in the endless past is still completely unexplained.

Thus, for them, the question arises: what was [existed] before the big bang? Up to now they think of the big bang as being simply a gigantic explosion, which is physically incomprehensible, if not impossible, to them, because in their narrow-mindedness they can only imagine that an explosion can and could [absolutely] only be detected and take place at a certain time and place.

So they continue to come up with the wrong assumptions and theories and do not find the origin of all existence, which emerged from condensing a <nothingness-vacuum> - as a bipolar negative-positive impulse, from which the very first ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur- finest-very-fine-finest fine-finest-finest-finest-fine-spirit-energy-atto-nano-iota and from this a bipolar negative-positive spirit-energy-impulse developed, which built itself up in a self-exciting manner and, out of itself, led to the existence of the <being-absolutum>.

However, this did not happen in the form of a gradual built-up, but rather by the self (auto)-excited impetus resp. impulse in its ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur spirit-energetic form through continued condensing, heating and finally developing into <being-absolute> through a - for the human judgement and powers of imagination – ever to be, unique explosion. And this ever first, only and never-repeated explosion of this kind, magnitude and extent was more powerful and immense than any big bang that ever could be, if by such [big bang] from the Absolute Absolutum or by a Ur-Creation Universe a new Creation universe is created.

Thus, the Prime (First) Absolutum resp. the <being-absolutum> was created from the impetus of the <nothingness-vacuum> by an unimaginable explosion resp. through the very first and ever only <nothingness-vacuum-big-bang>, which can be called as Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Prime (First)-Big-Bang.”

German Original

„Doch eines wissen die Naturwissenschaftler und Physiker noch nicht, nämlich dass der Ursprung aller Existenz nicht im Urknall liegt, weil dieser noch viel weiter in ‹Unendlicher-Dauer›-Vergangenheit zurückliegt, folglich für sie der effective Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ursprung des ganzen Werdegangs in der endlosen Vergangenheit noch absolut ungeklärt ist.

Also stellt sich für sie die Frage: Was war vor dem Urknall? Bisher stellen sie sich den Urknall einfach als gigantische Explosion vor, was aber für sie gemäss ihrem Denken physikalisch unverständlich, wenn nicht gar unmöglich ist, weil sie sich in ihrer Borniertheit nur vorstellen können, dass eine Explosion absolut nur zu einer bestimmten Zeit an einem eruierbaren Ort stattfinden konnte und kann.

Also tappen sie weiterhin mit falschen Annahmen und Theorien einher und finden nicht zum effectiven Ursprung aller Existenz, der aus einer ‹Nichts-Vakuum›-Verdichtung als zweipoliger negativ-positiver Impuls hervorgegangen ist, aus dem sich das allererste ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-feinst-feinstfeinst-feinst-feinst-feinst-feinst-Geistenergie-atto-nano-Jota und daraus ein zweipoliger negativ-positiver Geistenergieimpuls entwickelte, der sich selbsterregend aufbaute und aus sich heraus zur Existenz des ‹SEIN-Absolutum› führte.

Dies geschah jedoch nicht in Form eines allmählichen Aufbaus, sondern indem der Impetus resp. Impuls sich in seiner ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-urgeistenergetischen Form weiterhin selbsterregend verdichtete, erhitzte und schlussendlich in einer für menschliches Ermessen und Vorstellungsvermögen jemals einzigartigen Explosion zum ‹SEIN-Absolutum› formte. Und diese jemals erste, einzige und sich niemals wiederholende Explosion dieser Art, Grösse und Umfang war um das unmessbar Gewaltigere und Unermesslichere mächtiger als jeder Urknall dies jemals sein kann, wenn durch einen solchen aus dem ‹Absolutes-Absolutum› oder durch ein Ur-Schöpfungs-Universum ein neues Schöpfungs-Universum erschaffen wird.

Also entstand auch das Erst-Absolutum resp. das ‹SEIN-Absolutum› aus dem Impetus des ‹Nichts-Vakuum› durch eine unvorstellbare Explosion resp. durch den überhaupt allersten und jemals einzigen ‹Nichts-Vakuum-Urknall›, der wohl als Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Ur-Erst-Urknall bezeichnet werden kann.“
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Newinitiation
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Thanks for the translation bill
Its way beyond the scope of my ability to even fathom of the why's, how's, when's what's of this ur ur ur ur ur alpha beta omega delta theta zeta gamma primal original unique one off biggest of the big largest of the large gigantic of the gigantic colossal of the colossal bang of all bangs.
But the same question always arises from such information about the mysteries of all mysteries like the ur ur ur ur primal ultra original biggest of all big bang in that what created the finest of the fine the ultra small of the smallest spirit energy which brought about the original of all original big bang in the first place?
Where did that come from as something had to also have created that for that to start the ball rolling.

Matt lee
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Tat_tvam_asi
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You are welcome, Matt.
Some reflections on your thoughts - see my post "Enigma of Creation" (Topic "The Creation Itself")

Salome, Bill
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Billy Answering Reader Questions / Swiss Figu Web Site / March 2018
Below: Questions by Michael Horn (MH), USA, to Billy(B)

[…] words inserted to make the translation better understandable

MH: How many IS "sleepers" and / or terrorists are there in the US?
B: What Florena has given to [told] me from Ptaah is that, as of 31 December 2016, the Plejaren had an accurate [precise] knowledge [of the number] of 1407 IS sleepers in the US, while further Plejaren data was available regards potential terrorists of [belonging to] other domestic and foreign groups, which are not part of the <islamic>, [and] which count [are to be calculated with ] far more than 171,000, these were [on Dec 31, 2016] usually individual perpetrators indoctrinated with terrorism [terrorist ideas], as well as those having a psychopathic and mentally disturbed nature.

MH: Did Sfath refer to the Yellowstone Caldera in his 1948 letter?
B: Yes, but he never said when the caldera would explode. He only said that the time (for an eruption) had long been exceeded and that the Caldera was working towards a very powerful eruption that could be any time or only in a hundred or a thousand years.

MH: Are there ET artefacts or an old Nazi base in the Antarctic?
B: In Antarctica, there are no ET artefacts, neither is there any old NAZI base - except for an old and extremely insignificant, small building that was used for Arctic research.

MH: What is known about the Farmington crashes, New Mexico?
B: According to Plejaren data, this is a charlatanry story [quackery].

MH:
Did Sfath get his prophecies from the <petale>, or did he make them because of his own abilities, time travel, etc.?
B:
Sfath did not receive any prophecies from the <petale> as he did not make any prophesies.
He acquired his specific awareness [activity] in terms of future knowledge by looking to the future and through time travel into the future, which are referred to as foresight and have nothing to do with prophecies. Prophecies are made up of advance calculations [projections / reasonable forecasts and calculations of probabilities with regard to certain factors, which inevitably have to produce certain effects if everything else goes on or is done in the existing framework. But if the existing framework is changed, then the effect also changes, so that a prophecy does not have to be fulfilled and a different effect is created if the corresponding authoritative career is changed. Prophecies are usually made only in terms of evil, negative and bad effects - according to the causality [of] cause and effect - that arise from certain evil, negative and bad existing causes to excite people, so that they change and transform all evil, negative and bad things into [the] what is best, [the] good, [the] positive, [the] right and [the] worthy.

MH: Can you tell more about the binary sun, and the "dark wanderer" / incoming object? Can you tell us more about the Binary Sun and the Dark Wanderer / incoming object?
B: The Dark Wanderer has passed through our solar system many millennia ago and disappeared into the depths of the cosmos.

MH Is there a connection between autism and vaccination?
Answer The scientific status [knowledge] of the Plejarens assumes [that for] autism spectrum disorders (ASD) a multi-facetted [“many factor”] developmental model [applies], the sole cause is not [only] a vaccine - however, depending on circumstances. this may be [the case]. The Plejaren do not know of any clear connection between vaccination and ASA. A synchronous [co-]+occurrence of vaccination and autistic symptoms is not causally related, meaning that a vaccine need not be the cause, but may be under the circumstances.
Thus, whether a person, be it a child, adolescent or adult, should be vaccinated or not - possible consequential damage can occur, as it may as well through a failed vaccination. All sufferings and illnesses can be very complicated and have equally [very] serious consequences.

MH: Did something like a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11?
B: No, what hurled [sped] into the Pentagon at 9/11 was a passenger plane. It was the <american>, which was supposed to be flown as a morning flight from Washington Dulles International Airport to the Los Angeles International Airport, but the aircraft was captured on Sept. 11, 2001, shortly after launching, by a terrorist attack and was kidnapped and then steered [in]to the Pentagon, killing all 64 people on board and 125 people on the ground.


NB ... Two MH questions were left out.
One re. transgender people and one which B. had not yet discussed with Ptaah.

German Originals

Frage von Michael Horn, USA How many IS “sleepers” and/or terrorists are there in the US? Wieviel IS-‹Schläfer› und/oder Terroristen gibt es in den USA?
Antwort Was mir Florena an Angaben von Ptaah überbracht hat, ist folgendes: Nämlich, dass die Plejaren am 31. Dezember 2016 genaue Kenntnisse in bezug darauf hatten, dass in den USA die Anzahl von 1407 IS-Schläfern gegenwärtig war, während weitere plejarische Angaben in bezug auf potentielle Terroristen anderer inländischer und ausländischer Gruppierungen, die nicht zum ‹Islamistischen Staat› gehören, mit weit über 171000 zu berechnen waren, wobei diese in der Regel terroristisch indoktrinierte Einzel- täter, wie aber auch psychopathischer sowie psychischgestörter Natur waren.
Frage von Michael Horn, USA Was Sfath referring to the Yellowstone caldera in the 1948 letter? Nahm Sfath in seinem Brief von 1948 Bezug auf die Yellowstone-Caldera?
Antwort Ja, aber er sagte nie einen Zeitpunkt, wann die Caldera explodiert. Er sagte nur, dass die Zeit schon lange überschritten sei und dass die Caldera auf einen sehr gewaltigen Ausbruch hinarbeite, der jederzeit oder erst in 100 oder 1000 Jahren sein könne.
Frage von Michael Horn, USA Are there ET artifacts, or an old Nazi base in Antartica? Gibt es ET-Artefakte oder eine alte Nazi-Basis in der Antarktis?
Antwort In der Antarktis gibt es keine ET-Artefakte, wie auch keine alte NAZI-Basis – abgesehen von einem alten und äusserst unbedeutenden, kleinen Bau, der zur Arktisforschung diente.
Frage von Michael Horn, USA What is known about the Farmington, New Mexico crash(es)? Was ist bekannt über den Farmington-Absturz, New Mexico?
Antwort Dabei handelt es sich gemäss plejarischen Angaben um eine Scharlatanerie-Geschichte.
Frage von Michael Horn, USA Did Sfath get prophecies from Petale or his own abilities, time travel, etc.? Bekam Sfath seine Prophetien von der ‹Petale-Ebene›, oder machte er sie aufgrund seiner eigenen Fähigkeiten, Zeitreisen, usw.?
Antwort Sfath hatte keine Prophetien von der ‹Petale-Ebene›, wie er auch keine Prophetien machte. Seine spezielle Tätigkeit in bezug auf Zukunftskenntnisse erwarb er sich durch Zukunftsschauen sowie durch Zukunftsreisen, die als Vorausschauen bezeichnet werden und nichts mit Prophetien zu tun haben. Prophetien bestehen aus vernünftigen Vorausberechnungen und Wahrscheinlichkeitsberechnungen in bezug auf bestimmte Faktoren, die zwangsläufig bestimmte Wirkungen bringen müssen, wenn im bereits bestehenden Rahmen alles weitergeht oder weiter getan wird. Wird aber der bestehende Rahmen verändert, dann verändert sich auch die Wirkung, folglich eine Prophetie sich nicht erfüllen muss und eine andere Wirkung entsteht, wenn der entsprechend massgebende Werdegang verändert wird. Prophetien werden in der Regel nur in bezug auf böse, negative und schlechte Wirkungen gemacht – und zwar gemäss der Kausalität Ursache und Wirkung –, die aus bestimmten bösen, negativen und schlechten bestehenden Ursachen entstehen um die Menschen anzuregen, damit sie alles Böse, Negative und Schlechte zum Besten, Guten, Positiven, Richtigen und Wertvollen ändern und umformen.
Frage von Michael Horn, USA Can you tell us more about the binary sun, and the "dark wanderer"/incoming object? Kannst Du uns mehr sagen über die binäre Sonne und den Dunklen Wanderer/einfliegendes Objekt?
Antwort Der Dunkle Wanderer ist schon vor vielen Jahrtausenden durch unser Sonnensystem gezogen und in den Tiefen des Weltenraumes verschwunden.
Frage von Michael Horn, USA Is there an autism/vaccine connection? Gibt es eine Verbindung zwischen Autismus und Impfen?
Antwort Der wissenschaftliche plejarische Stand geht bei Autismus-Spektrum-Störungen (ASS) von einem multi faktoriellen Entstehungsmodell aus, wobei die alleinige Ursache nicht bei einer Impfung liegt – jedoch je nachdem unter gegebenen Umständen liegen kann. Die Plejaren kennen keinen eindeutigen Zu- sammenhang zwischen Impfung und ASS. Ein gemeinsames Auftreten von Impfung und autistischen Symptomen weist keinen kausalen Zusammenhang auf, was bedeutet, dass eine Impfung nicht die Ursache sein muss, jedoch unter gegebenen Umständen sein kann. Ob nun ein Mensch, ob Kind, Jugendlicher oder Erwachsener, geimpft werden soll oder nicht, so können mögliche Folgeschäden ebenso auftreten wie auch bei einer unterlassenen Impfung. Alle Leiden und Krankheiten können einen sehr komplizierten Verlauf und ebenso sehr schwerwiegende Konsequenzen haben.

Frage von Michael Horn, USA Did something like a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11? Traf bei 9/11 etwas wie eine Rakete das Pentagon?
Antwort Nein, was bei 9/11 in das Pentagon raste, war ein Passagierflugzeug. Es handelte sich um den ‹American Airlines-Flug 77›, der als Morgenflug vom Washington Dulles International Airport zum Los Angeles International Airport geflogen werden sollte, wobei das Flugzeug jedoch am 11. September 2001 kurz nach dem Start einem Terroranschlag zum Opfer fiel, gekapert und entführt und dann in das Pentagon gesteuert wurde, wobei alle 64 Menschen an Bord sowie 125 Personen am Boden starben.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Please note re. the translations in the previous mail:
They are my own translations and may contain errors

Bill
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Michael_horn
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The complete Q&A can be found here:

http://www.theyfly.com/new-questions-answers-billy-meier
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Thank you, Michael.
(I had checked your web site but could not find them, sorry)

Bill
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> It’s not a problem, Bill, thanks.
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>>> THE DARWIN INVESTIGATION <<<

- An Analysis by the Plejaren Sfath and Ptaah
- Source: “Answers to Readers Questions No.3” of Jun 3, 2017
-Translation of the major parts of Ptaah’s explanations (taking into a/c length)
- Note: My fast translation may contain errors
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One fellow Swiss citizen - having studied Billy’s CRs (7, 217, 250, 367, 437, 476) re. Darwin - was enraged about the Plejarens’ repeated claim that Charles Darwin was a fraud and “consumed by ambition” who did not have any scruples to use illicit means to increase his reputation -
“.. Even in the world of rampant conspiracy theories, this wild scandal story seems to be circulating. In this context, further information that could be at least remotely be verifiable could provide valuable remedies.”
Billy then asked – 42 years after Semjase first told him about Darwin - Ptaah for comment …
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NB: […] = [added words for better understanding]
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Ptaah:

[(I) Different To Earth Humans Plejaren Cannot See Any Benefit In Deceiving Others]
Such aggressive and for the earth humans suggestive, questions of doubt unpleasantly stir up the insecurity among earthlings, and trigger with them an intellectual-emotional ambiguity and fickleness with regard to judgment. And this is due to their lack of education, intelligence, and their intellectual and rational weakness, as a result of which they are unable to penetrate their own judgment and to establish the truth of the facts arising, neither can they distinguish between [what is] genuine [authentic] and [what is] false [artificial]. This paves the ground for conspiracy theories, as we talked about in our conversation on February 3, which affects you and the FIGU, but in this respect the conspiracy theory is different than they normally are in their form ...
.. Readers' questions formulated in such a way as these, which question our honesty and integrity as well as our statements and explanations in a presumptuous, conceited [smug], and overdone manner, will no longer be discussed. In addition, we have no interest whatsoever in misinformation or lies that are completely alien to us, as they would not bring us any benefits. Fraud, lies, envy, dizziness, misleading, deceit and slander, as well as any other untruth, are completely foreign to us Plejaren in every small and big way, which – in contrast - cannot be said for the majority of earth humanity…


[(II) THE ORIGIN OF THE THEORY OF NATURAL SELECTION: ALFRED RUSSELL WALLACE]

The records of my [Ptaah’s] father are based on clear facts, on accurate clarifications, observations and findings of what happened then and subsequent events later on, and they clearly state and prove that Charles Darwin tried to prove his "theory of evolution” by unfair machinations, [a theory which] moreover, in its origin cannot be attributed [ascribed] to him, but to a naturalist named Alfred Russel Wallace (ARW), who sent Darwin a corresponding essay, the contents of which he used to his advantage.
At the time Darwin’s theory of evolution was much talked about, Wallace, being on an expedition in the Southeast Asian archipelago, sent a corresponding essay^) - for study and assessment – to Darwin ^) = [re his research re. evolution of the species through natural selection].
Darwin, however, [found the article suitable for his own ideas and] used his {ARW’s] essay contents for himself and his [own] theory of evolution, without mentioning that it was completely based on the guiding principles by Alfred Russel Wallace. There was written evidence for this However, on the one hand, either Darwin maliciously changed or destroyed it or on the other hand it was later misinterpreted by thoughtless [imprudent] historians.

[(III) MONKEY JAWBONE MOUNTED ON A HUMAN SKULL - “THE PILTDOWN MAN”]

But this does not – [even] in the face of evidence [to the contrary] - matter to the Darwinists, they use fraudulent methods to cling on to their "Darwin's truth". And that Darwin fraudulently mounted a “filed to make it look right’ monkey jawbone on a human skull this is an undeniable fact that can be proven, since at least this fake Darwin product was preserved until the mid-20th century, before it was recognized as a fraud, under the name Piltdown Man.
This is a human skull, in which Darwin had inserted monkey bones which were “trimmed [filed] to look right”. This human skull, only about 6 centuries old and forged by Darwin with “cut to size [to look right]” monkey bones, was – as the missing link - to prove Charles Darwin's theory that human beings should descend from monkey beings. However, this skull was not the only forgery, because there were also various other bone elements that were changed by Darwin.
Even finding the Piltdown skull was based on a scam which was set in motion by a man named Charles Dawson, which is why the skull was also called ‘Dawson's Skull’ and "Dawson's Man of the Dawn". Allegedly – so he justified [tried to justify] his fraud - he had found the alleged remnants of the early human resp. Piltdown human in a gravel pit near the village of Piltdown near Uckfield in southeast England, according to [from] which the term ‘Piltdown Man' originates.
In truth, however, Dawson did not find the skull, but he himself had buried it there - along with other pieces of Darwin (D)’s “worked on” bones that all were manipulated bones from Darwin's estate, which he had acquired [in exchange] for paying William Erasmus Darwin, Charles [D] ‘s first-born son, a higher sum.

[(IV) ANXIETIES OF SON WHO KNEW OF HIS FATHER’S FRAUD]

This man [= D’s son] knew about his father’s fraud so after his death he wanted to get rid of all of Darwin's fake fossils in order to protect his father's reputation so that he [his father] could not be accused of fraud.
Fundamentally, [it was because of] the thinking and acting of William Erasmus Darwin [which] was completely confused, illogical and in disarray, because he suffered from pathological anxiety states, which were based [on the fear] that a detection and publication of the fraud would eventuate [that the fraud would eventually be detected and publicised.].

[Thus,] Instead of simply destroying or burying all of his father's forged bone pieces and the prepared skull with a “trimmed [filed] to fit” monkey jaw, which would have been a logical act, he acted illogically in his fearful confusion, leaving everything, for a fee to him, to the some 25 years younger Charles Dawson, with whom he was acquainted. The trade between Darwin's son and Dawson was wisely kept secret, even with the clause that Dawson would never talk about the true origin of the skull and bones.
Dawson adhered to this [agreement] and never betrayed the secret of the true origin of the skull and bone parts, but profiled himself as a <finder> of the same. This alleged Piltdown Human Skull was then, when Dowson made it public, for many years presented as significant evidence for the evolutionary theory of Charles Darwin, subsequently, however, in 1953 skull investigations proved that it all was a fraud and not a primary fossil, but a fraudulent fabrication of human and monkey bones.

[(V) A BELIEF, ONCE IT HAS ESTABLISHED ITSELF, IS HARD – IF AT ALL - TO ERASE]

Mistakenly, this falsification has been - and is still partially today - blamed on Charles Dawson – as it is [blamed on] various other men, such as the a palaeontologist named Arthur Smith Woodward, who worked together with Dawson, but [who] knew nothing of his [Charles Dawson’s] fraudulent machinations and his acquisition of Charles Darwin's fake skull and bones.
Even the writer Arthur Conan Doyle was suspected of being the fraudster and forger, but all these allegations were not false, because the truth – uniquely and solely - is that the whole scam traced [traces] back to Charles Darwin. But this fact is vehemently doubted and disputed by clueless [naïve] Darwinists, as a consequence the Darwinian deception will continue on and Darwinism will also be maintained, because a faith – once it has arisen – can hardly, or is not at all or only very difficult to erase and correct through the true reality and effective truth.

Billy:
[The fact is that] It is easier [one is easier able] to believe than to think for oneself, to perceive reality in its factuality and to recognize the effective truth in it, to consider it and to comprehend it through understanding and reason. ...
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“Everywhere life seems full of heroic courage, but when one looks behind it, the only thing that appears, cloaked in haze, is the fear and the urge to be more than one really is.”
Billy (Desiderata).
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German Origin
Ptaah Solche angriffige, wahrheitsanzweifelnde und auf die Erdenmenschen suggestiv wirkende Zweifelsfragen schüren unerfreulich die Unsicherheit bei den Erdenmenschen und lösen bei ihnen eine gedanklich-gefühlsmässige Zwiespältigkeit sowie Wankelmut in bezug auf die Beurteilung aus. Und dies ergibt sich infolge ihrer mangelnden Bildung, Intelligenz und ihrer Verstandes- und Vernunftschwäche, folgederen sie nicht zu einer eigenen Beurteilung und Wahrheitsfindung des betreffend anfallenden Faktums durchzudringen vermögen, wie sie auch nicht zwischen echt und falsch unterscheiden können. Das ebnet den Grund und Boden für Verschwörungstheorien, wie wir in bezug auf solche bei unserem Gespräch am 3. Februar gesprochen haben, wovon auch du und die FIGU betroffen seid, wobei diesbezüglich die Verschwörungstheorie jedoch andersartig ist, als diese normalerweise in ihrer Form sind…
…Auf solcherart formulierte Leserfragen, wie diese hier vorliegende, die in einer anmassenden, blasierten und vermessenen Weise unsere Ehrlichkeit und Integrität sowie unsere Angaben und Erklärungen anzweifeln und in Frage stellen, werden wir nicht mehr eingehen. Zudem haben wir keinerlei Interesse an Falschinformationen oder Lügen, die uns völlig fremd sind, wie uns aber solche auch keinerlei Vorteile bringen würden. Betrug, Lügen, Neid, Schwindel, Irreführung, Täuschung und Verleumdung sowie sonst jegliche Unwahrheit sind uns Plejaren in jeder kleinen und grossen Art und Weise völlig fremd, was gegensätzlich vom Gros der Erden menschheit nicht gesagt werden kann…

….Die Aufzeichnungen meines Vaters beruhen auf klaren Tatsachen, auf genauen Abklärungen, Beobachtungen und Feststellungen der damaligen und der später daraus hervorgegangenen Geschehnisse, und sie besagen und weisen eindeutig nach, dass Charles Darwin ‹seine› Evolutionstheorie durch unlautere Machenschaften zu beweisen versuchte, die zudem in ihrem Ursprung nicht auf ihn selbst zurückführte, sondern auf einen Naturforscher namens Alfred Russel Wallace, der Darwin einen entsprechenden Aufsatz zukommen liess, dessen Inhalt dieser zu seinem Vorteil nutzte. Wallace war zu jener Zeit, als Darwin mit der Evolutionstheorie von sich reden machte, auf einer Expedition im südostasiatischen Archipel, als er Darwin zum Studium und zur Beurteilung einen Aufsatz in bezug auf seine Evolutionsforschungen zukommen liess.
Den ihm zusagenden Aufsatzinhalt nutzte Darwin jedoch für sich und seine Evolutionstheorie, ohne zu erwähnen, dass das Ganze auf Leitgedanken von Alfred Russel Wallace basierte. Dafür gab es schriftliche Beweise, die jedoch einerseits von Darwin böswillig verändert oder vernichtet oder anderseits zu späteren Zeiten durch unbedachte Historiker falsch umgedeutet wurden.
Das aber spielt für die Darwinisten selbst angesichts von Beweisen keine Rolle, sondern sie verwenden noch betrügerische Methoden, um an ihrer ‹Darwin-Wahrheit› festzuhalten. Und dass Darwin betrügerisch einen zurechtgefeilten Affenkieferknochen auf einen menschlichen Schädel
montierte, das entspricht einer unumstösslichen Tatsache, die bewiesen werden kann, denn zumindest dieses gefälschte Darwin-Produkt wurde bis in die Mitte des 20. Jahrhunderts erhalten, ehe es als Betrug erkannt wurde, und zwar unter der Bezeichnung ‹Piltdown-Mensch›.
Dabei handelt es sich um einen Menschenschädel, in den von Darwin zurechtgefeilte Affenknochen eingesetzt worden waren. Dieser von Darwin mit zurechtgefeilten Affenknochen gefälschte und nur rund 6 Jahrhunderte alte Menschenschädel sollte als fehlendes Stück Charles Darwins Theorie belegen, dass der Mensch von Affenwesen abstammen soll. Dieser Schädel war jedoch nicht die einzige Fälschung, denn es waren auch noch diverse andere Knochenelemente, die Darwin veränderte.
Auch das ‹Auffinden› des Piltdown-Schädels beruhte auf einem Betrug, der durch einen Mann namens Charles Dawson in Umlauf gesetzt wurde, weshalb der Schädel auch ‹Dawson-Schädel› und ‹Dawsons Mensch der Morgenröte› genannt wurde. Vorgeblich – so begründete er seinen Betrug – ‹fand› er die angeblichen Überreste des Frühmenschen resp. Piltdown-Menschen in einer Kiesgrube beim Dorf Piltdown in der Nähe von Uckfield in Südostengland, demgemäss die Bezeichnung Piltdown-Mensch entstammt.
Wahrheitlich jedoch hat Dawson den Schädel nicht gefunden, sondern er hat ihn selbst dort vergraben – nebst anderen von Darwin bearbeiteten Knochenstücken, die gesamthaft aus Darwins Nachlass stammende manipulierte Knochen waren, die er für ein höheres Entgeld von William Erasmus Darwin, dem erstgeborenen Sohn von Charles Darwin, erworben hatte.
Dieser wusste um die Fälschungen seines Vaters, weshalb er nach dessen Tod alle von Darwin gefälschten ‹Fossilien› loswerden wollte, um den Ruf seines Vaters zu schützen, damit er nicht des Betruges bezichtigt werden konnte. Grundlegend handelte es sich dabei um ein völlig konfuses, unlogisches und wirres Denken und Handeln von William Erasmus Darwin, weil er an pathologischen Angstzuständen litt, die eben darin fundierten, dass eine Aufdeckung und Öffentlichwerdung des Betruges zustande kommen könnte.
Anstatt dass er alle von seinem Vater gefälschten Knochenstücke und den präparierten Schädel mit einem zurechtgefeilten Affenkiefer einfach zerstört oder vergraben hätte, was einer logischen Handlung entsprochen hätte, handelte er in seiner Angstwirrnis völlig unlogisch und überliess alles für ein Entgeld dem ihm gegenüber rund 25 Jahre jüngeren Charles Dawson, mit dem er bekannt war. Der Handel zwischen Darwins Sohn und Dawson wurde wohlweislich geheimgehalten, und zwar auch mit der Klausel, dass Dawson niemals über die wahre Herkunft des Schädels und der Knochen sprechen werde.
Daran hat sich Dawson gehalten und niemals das Geheimnis der wahren Herkunft des Schädels und der Knochenteile verraten, sondern sich als ‹Finder› derselben profiliert. Dieser angebliche Piltdown-Mensch-Schädel wurde dann, als Dowson ihn öffentlich machte, lange Jahre als signifikanter Beweis für die Evolutionstheorie von Charles Darwin dargestellt, wonach dann aber 1953 Schädeluntersuchungen bewiesen, dass das Ganze ein Betrug und kein Ur-Fossil, sondern eine aus Menschen- und Affenknochen montierte Fälschung war.
Irrtümlich wurde diese Fälschung Charles Dawson angelastet – und wird es teilweise auch noch heute –, wie aber auch verschiedenen anderen Männern, wie z.B. einem Paläontologen namens Arthur Smith Woodward, der mit Dawson zusammen arbeitete, jedoch nichts von dessen betrügerischen Machenschaften und dem Erwerb des von Charles Darwin gefälschten Schädels und den Knochen wusste.
Auch der Schriftsteller Arthur Conan Doyle wurde verdächtigt, der Betrüger und Fälscher zu sein, wobei jedoch all diese Anschuldigungen nicht der Richtigkeit entsprachen, denn einzig und allein ist die Wahrheit die, dass der ganze Betrug auf Charles Darwin zurückführte. Diese Tatsache wird aber von unbedarften Darwinisten vehement bezweifelt und bestritten, folgedem der darwinsche Betrug weiterexistieren und auch der Darwinismus aufrechterhalten werden wird, weil ein einmal entstandener Glaube kaum, überhaupt nicht mehr oder nur noch sehr schwer aufgelöst und durch die reale Wirklichkeit und effective Wahrheit richtiggestellt werden kann.
Billy Glauben ist eben leichter, als selbst zu denken, die Wirklichkeit in ihrer Tatsächlichkeit wahrzunehmen und darin die effective Wahrheit zu erkennen, diese zu bedenken und sie durch Verstand und Vernunft nachzuvollziehen. …
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„Überall scheint das Leben voller Heldenmut, doch wenn man dahinter blickt, erscheint nur in Dunst gehüllte Angst sowie der Drang mehr sein zu wollen als man in Wahrheit ist.“
Billy (Desiderata).
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Tat_tvam_asi
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For those interested:
We have now established a new portal on MH's web site for those wishing to publish "more lengthy" translations. Anyone wishing to do so should contact Jedi (via Scott).

Salome,
Bill

NB
In addition to Ptaah's explanations about Darwin (see above) I have translated the second half of the Swiss reader's question to Billy on MH's new "Translations" section:
https://theyflyblog.com/2018/04/10/translation-figu-readers-questions-the-darwin-investigation/

We should not hate the reader for his beliefs.
But his manner of questioning may explain Ptaah's response.
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Norm
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Any current Translations on Syria that thing has heated up again. Looks like Trump has been fooled into action. The Shadow Gov't is good at what they do. They turn everybody. I hope Putin is smart enough to back down & wait out the USA Civil War. Then the USA will become more of a threat to itself than a threat to the world.
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Hugo
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Norm, I hope so. The world would be a much peaceful place when the U.S. is gone.

Mind if I ask how you are preparing for the breakup and coming civil wars there?

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