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    Verlanis Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2012 |
These subjects are covered very early in Billy's experience. Asket's Explanations. Christ is an English transliteration from Christos which means "anointed one"; a title and nothing more. John's Revelation is nothing I am versed on, but it is currently being used as a script to fool the dogmatics of the christianity, and other such systems. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 587 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Hi Michael, > As I point out in our new film, EVERY religion rests on the illogical, inadmissible premise (in a court room or…kindergarten) that "What's in this book is true…because this book says it's true."! If you can gently pose the question(s) regarding WHY they believe what they believe, and ask if there's anything else besides "because it's the word of God" in a book that has zero substantiation for its god, its actual authors, etc., except that people choose to accept this particular book (when there are quite a few books, religions and gods) you may enjoy the display of illogic, mental meltdown, etc. that follows. I don't let go of this crucial point if/when I engage in discussions about people's precious "beliefs". And, rather than follow the old nonsense about "respecting people's beliefs", I acknowledge that while I respect people (unless they give me clear evidence as to why I shouldn't) I couldn't give a lesser care about ANYONE'S beliefs…including my own. See also: http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/The%20Fatal%20Flaws%20of%20Faith.pdf | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 313 Registered: 12-2009 |
Michael, my 2 cents: 1. Invented. There is no heaven or hell, except for the ones you create for yourself in your Psyche. Many of the older prophets were falsely accused of doing the devil's work. 2. Semjase mentioned to Billy early on in the notes of the "Anti-Christ Time" that Earth humans will finally start to turn their back on religion madness and make some progress/development. 7. Contact 45 (lines 141-158) briefly mentions the number 666, and Semjase ties it into religion, the Anti Logos and the symbol of WUV (world environmental pollution). Anti Logos are the religious and political leaders who are unreal, destroy and the untruth. Billy described the Anti-Logos in the answers section as "a term for all those religious forces/organizations etc. that are fighting against logic and truth." WUV is the negative embodiment of the negative things we will have to face in the future, world pollution, overpopulation, war, destruction, environmental disasters, etc. There are also brief mentions of 666 tied into the Anti-Logos in Billy's book "prophecies and predictions" (available only in German) where he wrote down transmissions from Petale. As Verlanis said Christ is the translation for the term "Christos". This falsification for Jmmanuel started when Jmmanuel was still alive right before crucifiction. New TJ 26:29-44 mentions that Jmmanuel confronted the man named Saulus, who had dealings with Judas Ishariot (betrayer of Jmmanuel) and said Jmmanuel said he should call him "Paulus" for changing his name to "Jesus Christos", that distortion goes back a long time. Overall I would say these myth's originate with both the Bafath, and also our Earth human ancestors who maliciously altered, slandered, invented, and distorted earlier Prophets teachings and then came up with the Bible, which in turn was used to subjegate almost the entire planet. Nowadays all kinds of people try and decode the Bible, and many reap tons of money selling books and the like, selling more myths from myths. -as I side note, I don't know what you are doing on that other forums. Billy advises not to argue with Christians because it is illogical and unproductive. If you are offering any form of truth on those NDE forums, all your really doing is throwing pearls before the swine, which is also not recommended. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 05-2012 |
Corey Could you post the link to where it says that throwing pearls before swine is not recommended? Salome | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2331 Registered: 12-1999 |
Ferbon, Chapter 7, line 9 from the Talmud of Jmmanuel (3rd Edition) states the following: "You shall not give sacred things to the dogs, nor throw your pearls before the swine, lest they trample them with their feet and turn on you and tear you apart." (Message edited by scott on November 02, 2012) | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2563 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Michaelhelfert.... Your list, is in most cases conjured up by Ignorant humans as well as the predecessors of the Giza Boys, Ashtar Sheran(with his Christian oriented indoctrination schemes), and other Ischfschs of the past, etc. THEY, just kept on coming and Manipulating those Low Evolved primitive humans of Earth. In those day, you could tell a human ANYTHING...and (s)he would accept it!! That is HOW Ignorant humans were back than. And, Verlanis....mentioning - Christos which means "anointed one" - is from the Greek Latin word. Christos the "anointed one", is: Anointing with BLOOD of Babies and Young Virgins; which is a Black Mis Ritual! Which belongs to an ancient old Rite Ritual, conducted by the early Christosians, whom were DARK Forces idolizers, as to what I know, from my own studies. They tried to incorporate themselves anywhere they could to obtain POWER, over humans. So, they go a long ways back into MAN's history. So, it is not a so-called 'coincidence'...that the Christians shed, so much BLOOD, everywhere....they went/came! If you utilize the Search Engine, you will know more? This, and others you asked were discussed in the past, here. Edward. | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 196 Registered: 09-2011 |
What I was searching for was a direct and simple statement about the Antichrist. Does the Meier material ever talk about this figure, except to say that the rise of such a person is a myth and does not correspond in any way to what paths our future holds? I ask this because there are some people who will grasp at the slightest of straws regarding the Messianic prophecies of the Antichrist, Jesus, and the Rapture. Is there any such public figure or scenario in the cards? I would much appreciate your help with this. Use simple, direct statements. Definitive. With references if possible. Formulate the final word. Life | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 05-2012 |
Michaelhelfert Sometimes it is easier to address such questions if you write what you already know about the subject. Salome | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 441 Registered: 08-2010 |
I remember that Billy and Semjase discussed the subject of the anti-christ, 666 and other related things. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_045#section_2 9.1 Anti-Christ Age of Aquarius / "Anti-Christ" Age - defined - 39.245-247 The prophesized End-Times or the time of the anti-Christ, is actually when earthly humans will release themselves from their religious delusions and turn towards truth once again. This time is connected to the Age of Aquarius. The End-Times has already begun with the passage from the first half into the second half of this Age. The catastrophes that were prophesized by all of the prophets, as well as Jmmanuel, of great confusion, mass murders, religious and political wars, the degeneration of humanity, and the evils of the last centuries will surely come to pass with even heavier events that are still to come. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Chapter_9_-_RELIGION Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2571 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Michaelhelfert.... Eddiemartin, gives some interesting links. Anti-Christ, is NO human figure or the likes, as portrayed in some Biblical Doomsday scenarios; or whatever. Anti-Christ, is also an alteration conducted by the Jewish self-proclaimed priests, as I understood. THEY, altered the Anti-logos(= Anti-Logic/Creation) into Anti-Christ, due, to the Judeo Christian influence of destruction all over our planet. THEY, did not want to acknowledge this fact of Truth, which was ALREADY...Predicted(in the Future scriptures/scrolls), and that THEY played a great role (and their Cult Religion) within this destruction scenario. [So: THEY were trying to Erase....THEIR tracks, so to speak] For further insight, would be best to utilize the Search Engine, if you please? Edward. | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 202 Registered: 09-2011 |
Thanks for the links. Semjase's explanation in CR#45 is still abit ambiguous for me. What I made out is that there has been a person who was manipulated and deliberately named by Kabbalists in an attempt to generate an AntiChrist, but that the man who was so named did not assume the AntiChrist demeanor for it wasn't in his heart. He has since died. Am I correct in this? Mixed in with this is mention of an extraterrestrial who also assumed the Kabbalistic name and trappings of the AntiChrist. Was this one of the Bafath, since removed from Earth? Life | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 651 Registered: 06-2009 |
And even more on mother Teresa here Everything comes to us that belongs to us if we create the capacity to receive it - Rabindranath Tagore | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 652 Registered: 06-2009 |
More on the "real" mother Teresa discussed in the 543rd contact. Everything comes to us that belongs to us if we create the capacity to receive it - Rabindranath Tagore | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 175 Registered: 05-2012 |
I am wondering what measures are presently being taken to prevent Billy's work from falsification? Salome | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2630 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Ferbon.... The last Christian(F) mentioned, is, the way all is going, there is no more possibility, the materials being falsified as it has in the past. Take heed, that Man today, is much more Evolved...in his reading and writing, and Thinking...than, thousands of years ago; then, in his primitive state; and no more, Iscfisch influences or the likes to assist in falsifications as did with the Nomad/Gypsy tribe later called the Hebreaons and the later the Jews/Christians, to be. Edward. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 180 Registered: 05-2012 |
Edward thanks...I indeed may have missed the fact that we no longer live two thousand years ago. Clearly you misinterpreted Christian's words with which I am not familiar, but logically they could not be addressed in such a banal manner as you present them. Do you have a link to such statement from Christian ? Salome | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2632 Registered: 05-2002 |
Ferbon.... It has ben discussed in the past. For more details please utilize....the Search Engine. Edward. | ||
Gaiawingz Member Post Number: 118 Registered: 01-2008 |
Hello everyone; I was scanning through one of my books the other day and re-read an essay by Leo Tolstoy, where he had the following to say about the nature of religion. This is from his essay, entitled 'What is Religion, and Wherein Lies Its Essence?', as translated by Aylmer Maude and published by Random House in 1964 for the Modern Library: "True religion is a relation, accordant with reason and knowledge, which man establishes with the infinite life surrounding him, and it is such as binds his life to that infinity and guides his conduct." - pg. 54 The rest of the essay is also quite interesting, and well worth reading for those who have the time. I think the way Tolstoy defined 'true religion' is very much in tune with what Billy has written about the nature of religion vs. the nature of relegeon. Tolstoy also wrote an essay entitled 'Why Do Men Stupefy Themselves?' addressing his observations about why humans use mind-altering and intoxicating substances (alcohol, opium, psychoactive muchrooms, tobacco, hash, etc.) -- another fantastic essay, and one where he actually speaks about the spirit, albeit somewhat indirectly. Peace; - Gaia | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 792 Registered: 06-2008 |
"Tolstoy also wrote an essay entitled 'Why Do Men Stupefy Themselves?' addressing his observations about why humans use mind-altering and intoxicating substances (alcohol, opium, psychoactive muchrooms, tobacco, hash, etc.) -- another fantastic essay, and one where he actually speaks about the spirit, albeit somewhat indirectly." If information regarding that aspect of experience and possibility is sought and of interest the many works of Terence McKenna offer far more detail and analysis than Tolstoy plus you would do well with Rick Strassman however when it comes to "additives" which promote inspiration I think Billy Meier limits himself to coffee for gaining a reach into .... the usually unknown which becomes known and after 27,000 pages it appears he has mastered the technique pretty well so as a result his writings make a lot more sense than others in circulation. Cheers. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 798 Registered: 06-2008 |
Here's a Youtube find. Sam Harris reply during a debate on religion. Only 11 minutes and .... can you find any error with his rationale ? Brief, compelling and logical though with a logic which falls on many deaf ears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4TnrskE0 Cheers. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 07-2012 |
Ramirez, That is a nice find, his logic is intellectually pristine but also could be understood by a lehman with just the most basic logic and rational. Sounds like many speeches i have had with people to no avail, kind of like smashing your head against a brick wall repeatedly just to find a way through to the other side. I also like his not so subtle sarcasm. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 799 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Blake_p Sam Harris along with Christopher Hitchens have led the way though off course our own Mr Meier has contributed a not so unsubstantial part. Yes, its so obvious as is this question sure to have the hillbilly geniuses  Adam and Eve had 2 sons Cain and Abel .... so how did the human race continue to propagate from there ? Cheers. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 07-2012 |
Ramirez; Nice one, Well i guess if a Talking snake can convince Eve to eat some magic fruit off a forbidden tree and release all the evil in the world and in turn i guess the universe,then i suppose two men,brothers at that, could somehow start having incestuous children to populate the world. Disturbing to think about, earth sure was a magical place back in the day, maybe we just need to find the ring of power and destroy it,then all will be right again. |
