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Patm Member
Post Number: 578 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 08:17 am: |
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From my understanding development occurs during one lifetime, evolution occurs over several lifetimes, e.g., the consciousness develops and the spirit-form evolves. There is also storage-bank archives of the spiritual teaching. All human beings who are consciousness-based developed enough in their current lifetime are capable of opening these storage bank archives and have access to the 'General Spiritual Teaching' or Srutil. Once our 'aging gene' is corrected we will have even more of an opportunity to consciousness-based develop in a single lifetime than we currently are able to do. Our spirit-form's might-block evolves through each death-life cycle accumulating more energy via the consciousness-block's working out of all high-values in each lifetime. see also: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Spiritual/Jschwisch-Jschrisch-Srut%20Ban-srut%20levels%20of%20human%20development-sec.pdf Salome PatM |
   
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 741 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 06:20 pm: |
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Great posts (379 / 380) Thank you, Corey. Great diagram, thank you, Pat. Yes, I agree - once our life span expands we will be able to develop much more than we do presently: It is not just a linear progression of more years - more development: With age ripens a different - less emotional and more unifying - view of life*) Salome, Bill *) Many cultures acknowledge the wisdom of the elders, that older age is indicative of more wisdom. E.g. in Greece the council of Elders made the most important decisions. In India during S. Buddha's time it was customary among the males of the higher castes to first establish a family and then in later life, to leave the family, go in the forests to meditate and find the truth. (S. Buddha being but one example for this way of life) |
   
Yoid Member
Post Number: 134 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 08:56 pm: |
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Hi! I would like to apply for Geisteslehrestudium-Passiv-Mitgliedschaft but cant find Anmeldeformulare, just for passiv mitgliedschaft.Could you help me what to do? thx |
   
Corey Member
Post Number: 381 Registered: 10-2016
| Posted on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 09:05 pm: |
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Correction to my post #379: the word "thought" in point #4 should instead say "through" as in: "through cause and effect.,.". Cause and effect does not think, just fulfills-don't know why I typed incorrectly.~ Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Patm Member
Post Number: 579 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2017 - 12:02 pm: |
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Yoid: Spiritual Teaching Study & Passive Membership requires a request in writing for the Application Form. info@figu.org Note: All Spiritual Teaching letters/lessons are only available in German. It is highly recommended that you learn the German language as these letters/lessons require that you translate them yourself. These letters/lessons are to be considered a personal form of study and should not be shared with anyone else. No English translations of these letters/lessons will ever be provided, because part of the learning process of these letters/lessons is to also experience the study involved in learning and studying the German language in conjunction with the knowledge shared in the Spiritual Teaching letters/lessons. Hope this helps Salome PatM |
   
Stefan_z2 Member
Post Number: 162 Registered: 12-2014
| Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2017 - 05:53 pm: |
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Hello Yoid, It is not just out there for downloading. You are expected to write an email to info@figu.org FIGU Switzerland expressing your interest. The FIGU fellows will then within days reply with the forms, asking you to fill, scan and return them. Congratulations on reaching this decision. The journey will be very rewarding, for decades to come. Salome, Stefan |
   
Corey Member
Post Number: 383 Registered: 10-2016
| Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2017 - 08:09 pm: |
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Hello there Yoid, This pretty much explains everything you need to understand about the requirements for passive membership. Just email Christian Frehner @ FIGU and ask them to send you a passive member application in the mail, and all the information you will need to study the spirit lessons. To study the spirit lessons one has to: 1. Be a passive member, or an official financial contributor. 2. subscribe to the age of Aquarius newsletter (which has a fee associated with it) 3. wire transfer a small sum of money into the spirit lessons account every 3 months. To be a passive member one has to: 1. pay an annual membership fee of 30 CHF 2. pay 7% of one's monthly gross income 3. work at the Center 3 days a year, or if not pay a fine of 210 CHF for the 3 days missed. http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/mitgliedschaften The spirit lessons are only in German. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Cpl Member
Post Number: 975 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2017 - 11:37 pm: |
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Hi Bill, Re the comment on Siddhartha and leaving the family: I have always thought that action to be cold and somewhat lacking in human warmth. The Plejaren men always see their wives and families are provided for and not left to fend for themselves. Of course, Siddhartha, as a prince, left his family well provided for, but many in India which have left the family have not and still do not. Siddhartha had a life line very close to his thumb creating a narrow mount of Venus. This has always indicated a cool personality that has little interest in family or romance. It is also a sign of the renunciate in India. Meditation should be a part of one's life not the sole pursuit. A life should be balanced in activities, work, study, and meditation as the Plejaren advise. Indian writers I have read in the past have said that many of those who leave their families and go off into the forest, unsurprisingly, end up dead from disease or as animal fodder. It's obviously not the optimum path. It is not necessary to live alone to either find or live the truth. Personally, I decided to find the truth first before marrying or finding a wife, because it would be too difficult for a wife to cater to or put up with my searches (this was before the truth was openly revealed, as it is now). As it turned out, I found my wife first, though after many years. IMO marriage is not something that you decide just to do as a part of one's life schedule, but something that happens when you come across the right person, and when each feels a true love and wish to support and help the other in a life shared together. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 743 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 06:39 am: |
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Hi Chris, I do understand your view: How can a man leave his wife so soon after the birth of their child? As we know - his good wife and good son - they certainly wanted him to come back. But S.B.’s intention to become a “wandering ascetic”, leaving wife and child in the care of the extended family, a similar intention was as well in the hearts of many other Indian men in his time: Many started to question the Vedic sacrificial cults*) and wanted to find a deeper truth. As this was quite customary in his time (ca. 500 BCE) and place (India) – his solitary stand may have assisted, created a greater willingness among men to follow his teaching. We know as well from Billy that nature (impulses from our storage banks?) may create – though not “karma” but - causal fore-ordinations that the human may not logically desire or understand (Nokodemion referred to them as causal-foreordination-selection). One such causal fore-ordination was that Maya, S.B.’s mother died within 7 days after his birth. Clearly a foetus develops a deep oneness with its mother – sharing her food and emotions while it grows within her: There is no doubt that the sudden loss of this loving oneness had a deep effect on his young consciousness which felt isolated, was forced to grow without the love it was used to. It is difficult to fully understand the thoughts which guide a human being: We may never have the full empathy – for his time, his environment and his causal fore-ordination. But we must always observe with oneness – with the love of creation - which is the fundament of all being in our universe. Salome, Bill *) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15005.html#POST79980 (see “4. Samanas”) |
   
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 744 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 06:40 am: |
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Hi Chris, I do understand your view: How can a man leave his wife so soon after the birth of their child? As we know - his good wife and good son - they certainly wanted him to come back. But S.B.’s intention to become a “wandering ascetic”, leaving wife and child in the care of the extended family, a similar intention was as well in the hearts of many other Indian men in his time: Many started to question the Vedic sacrificial cults*) and wanted to find a deeper truth. As this was quite customary in his time (ca. 500 BCE) and place (India) – his solitary stand may have assisted, created a greater willingness among men to follow his teaching. We know as well from Billy that nature (impulses from our storage banks?) may create – though not “karma” but - causal fore-ordinations that the human may not logically desire or understand (Nokodemion referred to them as causal-foreordination-selection). One such causal fore-ordination was that Maya, S.B.’s mother died within 7 days after his birth. Clearly a foetus develops a deep oneness with its mother – sharing her food and emotions while it grows within her: There is no doubt that the sudden loss of this loving oneness had a deep effect on his young consciousness which felt isolated, was forced to grow without the love it was used to. It is difficult to fully understand the thoughts which guide a human being: We may never have the full empathy – for his time, his environment and his causal fore-ordination. But we must always observe with oneness – with the love of creation - which is the fundament of all being in our universe. Salome, Bill *) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15005.html#POST79980 (see “4. Samanas”) |
   
Felinity New member
Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2019
| Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2019 - 05:53 am: |
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Sometimes, when I see a list of the prophets, by Muhammad's name, it goes (Allah = Gospod). What does that mean? Sincerely, Belinda |
   
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1070 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2019 - 09:17 am: |
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Hi Belinda, Welcome to our Forum. Well, the JHWH with whom Mohammed was in contact had the (Plejaren) name "Gospod". Allah is a compound word of pre-Islamic origin combining "al" (=the) and "ilah" (=deity). Hence Allah Gospod = The God Gospod. Salome, Bill |
   
Stefan_z2 Member
Post Number: 169 Registered: 12-2014
| Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2019 - 09:34 am: |
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Hello Belinda, The bracket’s content explains that Muhammad’s extraterrestrial contact person and teacher had been the Ischwisch called Gospod, born 574 BC and died 573 AC. As explained in contact report 453, Gospod used the expression Allah as his name due to the fact of this being the Arabic word for god. Greetings, Stefan |
   
Felinity New member
Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2019
| Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2019 - 09:14 am: |
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Tat and Stefan, you made my day! Thank you for the explanation. I did a little dance, I'm happy to have learned this. Take Care, Belinda |
   
Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1042 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Monday, September 30, 2019 - 10:45 am: |
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Hello Belinda, Welcome to the forum and the Spiritual Teaching; your excitement is inspiring and contagious, which is a good thing. You will find much more to celebrate and rejoice; you are most likely going to find that these truthful fact of ancient history and Spirit Lessons will ring a truth with your Spirit. Sincerely Kenneth |
   
Patm Member
Post Number: 704 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 30, 2019 - 01:10 pm: |
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Welcome Belinda, Not sure if you have seen this. It is a drawing of the Nokodemion Lineage/Genealogy: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=oWCsxKBWnDA%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0 Hope this helps Salome, PatM |
   
Felinity New member
Post Number: 4 Registered: 09-2019
| Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2019 - 03:08 am: |
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Good Morning! It's good to be here. I am thankful for the nice people that input their thoughts and ideas. The more I read, the more Life makes sense. Salome to you Kenneth! Belinda |