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Scott Moderator
Post Number: 3440 Registered: 12-1999
| Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2021 - 09:08 pm: |
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Hi Bob, If I remember the contact reports correctly, it was Semjase who told Billy that the Hills case was real based on her investigations. It is unknown how she performed these investigations whether she went back in time to observe or somehow probed their memories at the time. But according to the Contact Report there is more to it than just the info about them being abducted, but also the type of analysis performed on them and the reasons for it, which Semjase was familiar with as she states from CR 37: 13. Very refined and ingenious methods, combined with an equally ingenious technology, allow these analyses to also be carried out with living life-forms, without them being harmed in any manner. 14. To our knowledge, this is still unknown on the Earth, but widely used and widespread among certain space-travelling races. 15. However, they use this method only in connection with telenotics, that is hypnosis, whereby the test or examination objects have no conscious recognition of such tests or examinations. From the Contact Reports we know the Plejarens or other advanced races such as the Timers have the ability to erase certain memories within a human being or to induce certain experiences which appear real to the person at the time. It would seem that if the memories the Hills possessed were somehow electromagnetically induced, this would somehow be recognized by Semjase during her investigation, because she was able to discern whether certain other contactees were either a complete fabrication or subject to some sort of real vision or indeed a real contact. It is perplexing that the information Semjase provided about the people from Zeta Reticula is somewhat similar to the info extracted from the Hills during Hypnosis. I think there may be more to this, which may relate to security reasons which could be traced back to certain events which the Plejarens would rather remain disconnected from as their more recent admissions of remaining unknown to the other races currently visiting this planet.... |
Newinitiation Member
Post Number: 2665 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, September 27, 2021 - 05:24 am: |
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Thanks for asking Bob yes my family is doing fine now and the most of the normalcy has come back. Its bit of a head scratcher Bob. Your compiled information raises more questions. I wonder if the hill couple knew about zeti reticuli before the supposed influence by the electromagnetic field and if not how did they know and if this stagecraft had been formulated by an earthly source how in heck could they have achieved such a mind inoculating effect especially in 1961? Could the earthly source perhaps have had access to extraterrestrial technology given that zeti reticulan bio organic androids crashed its spaceship in rosewell in 1947 and within the space of 14 years the secret terrestrial groups reversed engineered part of the ET technology to do with mind influencing electromagnetic technology on board the craft and used it on the hills? But for what especially to such benign and quiet insignificant couple as the hills in that era? Unless this particular case had extraterrestrial component to it in the form of the zeti reticulan expedition who wanted to let the earthlings know of their existence before they departed? So do you think it was ET or terrestrial or neither or both? Do the foreigner ET group from orion grouped with foreigners from Zeti Reticuli? This would make more sense. Matt lee |
Phi_spiral Member
Post Number: 150 Registered: 04-2020
| Posted on Monday, September 27, 2021 - 10:20 am: |
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Scott: "It would seem that if the memories the Hills possessed were somehow electromagnetically induced, this would somehow be recognized by Semjase during her investigation, because she was able to discern whether certain other contactees were either a complete fabrication or subject to some sort of real vision or indeed a real contact." Hi Scott My understanding by what Ptaah is saying in Contact 424, is that what was used with the Hills was different than 'real vision'; rather, it was a disturbance of Earth's electromagnetic field and that Semjase didn't have the technology to pick that up yet; but, it took the new technology from the Sonaer which enabled them to go back and re-assess past contact cases. It is, after all, the natural electromagnetic field of the earth itself that was used which flows around and actually through our bodies all the time - 24/7. So what would stand out to make it suspicious? She might not have even been aware to look for it in the first place or to even measure it properly in a way that would indicate that there was a localized disruption. Semjase's earlier analysis and report was in November 1975 and Ptaah's was 30 years later in June 2006. Regards Bob |
Norm Member
Post Number: 294 Registered: 12-2016
| Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 - 12:49 pm: |
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So an electromagnetic field caused the Hills to have the EXACT same experience from two different points of view? Sorry I'm not buying this explanation. Something else is going on with this case and the Ps are not telling us the full story. |
Phi_spiral Member
Post Number: 151 Registered: 04-2020
| Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 - 02:21 pm: |
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Norm: "So an electromagnetic field caused the Hills to have the EXACT same experience from two different points of view?" Yes. That is how you perceive "reality" in any event - by experiencing electromagnetic fields. Everything "out there" that your mind perceives as your "experience of reality" are really just electromagnetic fields. Do an internet search with the phrase - "Electromagnetic theories of consciousness" and see what you find. If you then take into account that electromagnetic waves can be controlled, manipulated and steered, it is really not that far-fetched. But how exactly that was done with the Hills, is still a mystery. Regards Bob |
Newinitiation Member
Post Number: 2702 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2021 - 03:56 am: |
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Contact note 781 Billy: While this is nothing new to me, neither is the fact that the Assembly Pyramid – which holds some 1.5 million human beings – is filled to the brim with people from all your peoples at government meetings. But it is certainly interesting for our earthlings to know. Billy: Das ist zwar für mich nichts Neues, auch nicht dass die Versammlungspyramide – die ja rund 1,5 Millionen Menschen fasst – bei Regierungsbesprechungen randvoll mit Leuten aus allen euren Völkern besetzt ist. Aber es ist sicher interessant für unsere Erdlinge, dies zu wissen. Wow how many buildings exist on earth that can accommodate 1,500,000 people? None. How on earth could it be built so structurally big and strong to the extent that it can accommodate 1.5 million people. It's mind boggling to think that our biggest stadium in the world can only accommodate roughly 150,000 people or 10% capacity compared to the plejaren. Since the plejaren don't destroy their planet just to put up a stadium let alone a house I suspect that their assembly pyramid is not a building or a land based structure but a satellite/space station much bigger than the great spacer that can traverse the universe but also interuniversally. Earth had seen numerous occasions of humongous flying pyramids so I gather that the plejaren had already visited earth with their gigantic pyramids. Why a pyramid assembly and not an egg shaped arena? Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1776 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2021 - 03:54 pm: |
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Good find, Matt. One wonders if they use this monumental building as well for meditation - what a powerful energy this would be (maybe too powerful?). |
Newinitiation Member
Post Number: 2703 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2021 - 10:45 am: |
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Yeah Bill it's simply amazing what our future selves will eventually be able to achieve come the year 5521AD. I wonder if that sphere responsible for bringing peace to the plejares was actually not a sphere shaped device but a pyramidal sphere as in the sphere of destiny (spear of destiny) and the arc of covenant was not an arc but a pyramidal energy generating device. Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1779 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Friday, November 12, 2021 - 02:45 am: |
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Now you got me wondering, Matt... This date 5521AD - What is its significance? |